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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:29:07 PM EDT
Surely it is CoC ?

I get that we all have various views and often have a heated debate etc but I have noticed a few members ( usually free accounts ) who are blatently ANTI-2A and whose only purpose in joining a SHOOTING /2A website is to troll.

Yet - nothing seems to get done about it ?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:30:32 PM EDT
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The new kinder, friendlier arfcom is all about inclusion.
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:
Surely it is CoC ?

I get that we all have various views and often have a heated debate etc but I have noticed a few members ( usually free accounts ) who are blatently ANTI-2A and whose only purpose in joining a SHOOTING /2A website is to troll.

Yet - nothing seems to get done about it ?
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You no like free speech brah?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:31:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:
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Unless you say something that hurts a police officer's feelings.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:32:03 PM EDT
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Surely OP can't be serious...
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:32:14 PM EDT
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I can't recall any anti 2a posters here.  What are they advocating?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:32:34 PM EDT
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Do you report it?
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The only question is lock or poof?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:34:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yodude:


You no like free speech brah?
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Private company, their website their rules
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:35:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski:
Surely OP can't be serious...
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I am all for free speech.
Happy to debate with anyone.

But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:35:41 PM EDT
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They might buy something from Brownells, we need to wait and see.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:36:32 PM EDT
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pretty sure trolling is the epitome of free speech.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:37:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I can't recall any anti 2a posters here.  What are they advocating?
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We caught one in another thread
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:37:29 PM EDT
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Blatant trolling is against the CoC as #6.

Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.
You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. This rule also includes posting disparaging remarks about a member's family.
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It does actually get enforced - but there are some very smooth talkers that try their best to do nothing but piss people off while dancing just on the side of being allowed. There's not much that a mod can do about that.

ETA: Arguably CoC #7 covers it too.

Posting topics or discussions that do the site or community harm.
More specifically creating topics and or replies meant to disrupt the Site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or the ability of the Site to function normally. This can include but is not limited to posting overly large photos or .gif files, excessive emoticons, or the use of repetitive or overly long text strings. It can also be the posting of threads or replies, in which it appears that the sole purpose is to provoke other members, or to damage the image and/or reputation of the site. [emphasis mine]
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:38:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I can't recall any anti 2a posters here.  What are they advocating?
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Nemomeimpunelacessit

He has a history of trolling.

His latest is that ATF agents are just doing their job in collecting solvent traps so if we get a visit, we should not be a dick about it.

And "gun laws make us safer".
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:38:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:


Nemomeimpunelacessit
He has a history of trolling.

His latest is that ATF agents are just doing their job in collecting solvent traps so if we get a visit, we should not be a dick about it.

And "gun laws make us safer".
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He's gone bro.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:38:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mleaky:
pretty sure trolling is the epitome of free speech.
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:39:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Third_Rail:
Blatant trolling is against the CoC as #6.



It does actually get enforced - but there are some very smooth talkers that try their best to do nothing but piss people off while dancing just on the side of being allowed. There's not much that a mod can do about that.
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Originally Posted By Third_Rail:
Blatant trolling is against the CoC as #6.

Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.
You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. This rule also includes posting disparaging remarks about a member's family.


It does actually get enforced - but there are some very smooth talkers that try their best to do nothing but piss people off while dancing just on the side of being allowed. There's not much that a mod can do about that.

There's a line, and it's easy not to cross it.  That goes for both the troll and the trolled.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:41:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cedjunior:

There's a line, and it's easy not to cross it.  That goes for both the troll and the trolled.
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Originally Posted By cedjunior:
Originally Posted By Third_Rail:
Blatant trolling is against the CoC as #6.

Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.
You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. This rule also includes posting disparaging remarks about a member's family.


It does actually get enforced - but there are some very smooth talkers that try their best to do nothing but piss people off while dancing just on the side of being allowed. There's not much that a mod can do about that.

There's a line, and it's easy not to cross it.  That goes for both the troll and the trolled.


Yup. I've seen far too many good posters get baited to cross the line and get banned as a result.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:41:39 PM EDT
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The internet is serious fuckin bizness y'all.
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:

I am all for free speech.
Happy to debate with anyone.

But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website.
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I think if you report anti gun trolling mods might remove them.   Politics vary but we are all supposed to at least be pro 2a on a gun forum.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:44:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:


He's gone bro.
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Originally Posted By CZPZ:


Nemomeimpunelacessit
He has a history of trolling.

His latest is that ATF agents are just doing their job in collecting solvent traps so if we get a visit, we should not be a dick about it.

And "gun laws make us safer".


He's gone bro.


Gone as in banned ?

Or just not returning ( having achieved what he set out to achieve ) to the thread ?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:45:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:

I am all for free speech.
Happy to debate with anyone.

But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website.
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:
Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski:
Surely OP can't be serious...

I am all for free speech.
Happy to debate with anyone.

But if a person who hates guns, joins a gun forum and baits its members, that is not free speech - that is deliberate trolling. And I do not see how it helps us or our website.

"Our website"... what do you mean "our website"?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:45:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I think if you report anti gun trolling mods might remove them.   Politics vary but we are all supposed to at least be pro 2a on a gun forum.
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:45:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:


Gone as in banned ?

Or just not returning ( having achieved what he set out to achieve ) to the thread ?
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Banned.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:45:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:


Nemomeimpunelacessit
He has a history of trolling.

His latest is that ATF agents are just doing their job in collecting solvent traps so if we get a visit, we should not be a dick about it.

And "gun laws make us safer".
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He's probably an ATF agent lol.  Definitely should ban.

ETA:. Good ban.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:46:25 PM EDT
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plot twist: you're we're soaking in it.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:47:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:48:51 PM EDT
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In my opinion, troll accounts should be shut down, IP banned, and all troll account info should be available for members to view. They should be subjected to the internet equivalent of a pillory.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:48:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:49:04 PM EDT
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Can you link to an example of an anti-2a post?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:
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All this. But if a long time or paying member says something....God forbid.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:49:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HappyCamel:
Private company, their website their rules
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Originally Posted By HappyCamel:
Originally Posted By yodude:


You no like free speech brah?
Private company, their website their rules


Free speech isn't a term exclusive to the constitution. Private companies can support free speech, and the market can ridicule them for not supporting free speech.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:50:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski:
Surely OP can't be serious...
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:52:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
I'm not directing this at you, OP, but a vast majority of the trolling reports are because someone said something they didn't agree with, which does not violate the CoC. If we catch blatant trolls, they get CoC'ed, but we aren't here to help members prove their point through the reporting system.

"Everyone in GD that doesn't agree with me is a Leftist Fed" is the gist behind many "trolling" reports.
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Thanks for the info - and I do understand that.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:53:03 PM EDT
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Once upon a time there was _A troll that outmaneuvered all the mods and outclassed all the other trolls...
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:54:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZPZ:
Surely it is CoC ?

I get that we all have various views and often have a heated debate etc but I have noticed a few members ( usually free accounts ) who are blatently ANTI-2A and whose only purpose in joining a SHOOTING /2A website is to troll.

Yet - nothing seems to get done about it ?
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If I owned the site, GD would be unavailable until an account was 3 years old and had 500 posts in the technical forums.

That would mean you (and the trolls you speak of) would still be in the technical forums.

But I don’t get to make the rules.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:54:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I can't recall any anti 2a posters here.  What are they advocating?
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Sucking the balls of the AFT
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:55:31 PM EDT
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heh, he thinks the trolls don't usually buy memberships...  cute.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:55:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:


Banned.
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Originally Posted By CZPZ:


Gone as in banned ?

Or just not returning ( having achieved what he set out to achieve ) to the thread ?


Banned.


Are we sure though?

I thought we weren't allowed to know members' bannanation status any more?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:55:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Baddy:


Are we sure though?

I thought we weren't allowed to know members' bannanation status any more?
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Well site staff quoted me so I'm assuming so.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:56:28 PM EDT
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Just because someone has a different viewpoint than you on firearms doesn't mean that they are "anti-second amendment"
Don't expect an echo chamber whose membership exactly mirrors your views on issues.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:56:54 PM EDT
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I got a warning for something I said about Biden saying the word "Maga" all the time

This site is not the site it used to be
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:57:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Just because someone has a different viewpoint than you on firearms doesn't mean that they are "anti-second amendment"
Don't expect an echo chamber whose membership exactly mirrors your views on issues.
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There was a fair amount more to this one.  
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:58:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:
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Or maybe grown men can just not get butthurt about something strangers say on the internet?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:58:38 PM EDT
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Sucking the balls of the AFT
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Thats some members hoping if they give ‘em the ol’ rub and tug they will get a free stamp.
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