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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:15:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Yeah sure.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:15:57 PM EDT
[#2]
I’ll take liberty over safety.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:16:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Where I live in Texas at the present is pretty safe. Don't know about the Yankee states though.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:16:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I WONDER WHAT IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR?
not as many poors! 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:17:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Rural PA is perfectly safe. If you know how to navigate it
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:17:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted: https://www.movingwaldo.com/us/moving-states/safest-states-to-live-in-the-us/ The outlier being Idaho. Are they the safest because they plea down the charges and blow them off; they have a more homogeneous population; they don’t have any major population centers? I suspect that there is some bias in the article as I find it hard to believe New York, New Jersey, and Pensilvania are in the top 10 safest places. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:17:21 PM EDT
[#7]
 "Jesus this place is too dangerous, we should move to Jersey!" Said no one in Utah ever NY "man visiting son at college killed by random bullet from full auto Glock in the Marriot" Utah "graffiti spotted at skateboard park, public outraged" |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:17:39 PM EDT
[#8]
The top 2 have another common factor as well
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:18:34 PM EDT
[#9]
lol @ Maine.
Half the state lives in one metro area, and it's not safe. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:18:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Those are great states to move to!
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:19:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are great states to move to! Are you a bot? Serious question. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:19:56 PM EDT
[#12]
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:20:23 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm surprised NH isnt #1, I believe it used to be.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:21:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they the safest because they plea down the charges and blow them off; they have a more homogeneous population; they don’t have any major population centers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.movingwaldo.com/us/moving-states/safest-states-to-live-in-the-us/ The outlier being Idaho. Are they the safest because they plea down the charges and blow them off; they have a more homogeneous population; they don’t have any major population centers? Its nothing to do with convictions. NJ and NY are in the top 10 most culturally diverse states. NYC isn't a major population center? |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:22:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Jesus this place is too dangerous, we should move to Jersey!" Said no one in Utah ever NY "man visiting son at college killed by random bullet from full auto Glock in the Marriot" Utah "graffiti spotted at skateboard park, public outraged" Wisconsin would like a word with you
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:23:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Propaganda to get people to move there since everyone with any skills left and they're running out of victims. Crime statistics are low because if you eliminate crimes nobody breaks the law
Yankee states can keep all their libtards that vote these idiots trying to destroy America into office. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:24:14 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I WONDER WHAT IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? not as many poors!  Attached FileThank you LMFAO. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:24:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll take liberty over safety. Cant be said enough |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:25:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I WONDER WHAT IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? not as many poors! Very true. Ship the poor down south. 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:29:09 PM EDT
[#20]
The table here puts NY and NJ in the middle
https://www.thecentersquare.com/utah/how-the-murder-rate-in-utah-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-country/article_965bff1a-9235-5d29-9f69-10aaf1affc46.html Arkansas is interesting. We looked at moving there and there are nice rural kind of western culture areas but the cities are crazy Baltimore level murder zones. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:29:22 PM EDT
[#21]
Tennessee is too dangerous. The entire state is Memphis or Deliverance.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:30:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol @ Maine. Half the state lives in one metro area, and it's not safe. Yes, it's horrible, just like Manchester in NH , blood running in the streets and cities burning thanks to horrible gun laws . Stay out, for your own good. 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:31:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Jesus this place is too dangerous, we should move to Jersey!" Said no one in Utah ever NY "man visiting son at college killed by random bullet from full auto Glock in the Marriot" Utah "graffiti spotted at skateboard park, public outraged" One nice thing about moving back to Back Home Again in Indiana from Chiraq is while there I needed to follow Groot and her comrades to catch the next horrible thing they were about to do. Not the case in my sleepy little Hoosier town.  8pm in the summer, 7 or earlier in the fall and winter and it's like someone turned the town's switch to off for the night.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:32:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised NH isnt #1, I believe it used to be. Maine and New Hampshire swap places 1 and 2, back and forth, for crime and whiteness
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:37:40 PM EDT
[#25]
Is that a per capita thing so high populations somehow dilute the crime rates?
Because I'm betting Montana, Wyoming and North Dakota all have extremely low crime rates, but correspondingly low populations. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:37:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:38:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The table here puts NY and NJ in the middle https://www.thecentersquare.com/utah/how-the-murder-rate-in-utah-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-country/article_965bff1a-9235-5d29-9f69-10aaf1affc46.html Arkansas is interesting. We looked at moving there and there are nice rural kind of western culture areas but the cities are crazy Baltimore level murder zones. Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:41:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a per capita thing so high populations somehow dilute the crime rates? Because I'm betting Montana, Wyoming and North Dakota all have extremely low crime rates, but correspondingly low populations. Reservations will fuck up your stats. Those folks are not kind to each other. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:41:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Then everyone should move to those states...please!
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:45:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Those demographics and the remnants of Puritan culture are a powerful thing.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:50:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rural PA is perfectly safe. If you know how to navigate it This^^^ Ya just follow three S's Most of our crime is Philly, Reading, Pittsburgh, Allentown . Smaller PA and rural PA is nice and pleasant. Doesn't hurt that so many are packing.Keeps most petty theives honest. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:52:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Lol. As long as new York doesn't report crime then there is no crime.
Brilliant! |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:54:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it's horrible, just like Manchester in NH , blood running in the streets and cities burning thanks to horrible gun laws . Stay out, for your own good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol @ Maine. Half the state lives in one metro area, and it's not safe. Yes, it's horrible, just like Manchester in NH , blood running in the streets and cities burning thanks to horrible gun laws . Stay out, for your own good. Manchvegas ain’t exactly nice |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:56:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:58:18 PM EDT
[#35]
That's a stupid article. Many of the most dangerous areas in the country are also located in those states.
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:58:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess if crashing your atv is violent crime lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ. Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR.
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:00:44 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a stupid article. Many of the most dangerous areas in the country are also located in those states. Areas based upon cities or counties? |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:01:50 AM EDT
[#38]
Lies
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:02:38 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lies Care to expand. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:04:09 AM EDT
[#40]
9 out of 10 states are pretty much liberal democrats controlled insane asylums.
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:04:32 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ. Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. Probably helps that only 177 of 578 departments in NJ are sharing their crime stats to the FBI. Compare that to the 126 out of 147 departments reporting in Utah, not surprising to see the artificially lower number from Jersey. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:07:05 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Manchvegas ain’t exactly nice Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol @ Maine. Half the state lives in one metro area, and it's not safe. Yes, it's horrible, just like Manchester in NH , blood running in the streets and cities burning thanks to horrible gun laws . Stay out, for your own good. Manchvegas ain’t exactly nice No, it's horrible , ruins the whole state, stay away for your own good. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:07:35 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I WONDER WHAT IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? not as many poors! Exactly, It's not gun laws (as NH, VT, ME are all included), I lived in NH and MA (very different for gun laws) in nice areas for most of the last 15 years (before moving to WA a year ago) and felt incredibly safe and petty crime was almost non-existent. Now here in affluent WA (just across the lake from Seattle) there is constant petty theft, I've seen people blatantly stealing from Home Depot or clothing stores (door alarms going off and no-one does anything) or stealing packages from people's porches, and those crimes aren't investigated or prosecuted. Downtown there is a major homeless problem (and recently a major Antifa problem), and nothing is done. So what's different compared to NH/MA? to me it seems like the difference is policing and support for policing. Small town cops where we lived in NH/MA make six figures before overtime and are proactive in investigating crimes instead of hiding and trying to catch people doing 10 over the speed limit. Inner city crime still existed but the DA al least tried to make an effort, in the nicer areas they came down hard of visiting criminals. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:07:50 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. UCR data is very, very sensitive to fuckery or laziness. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:08:02 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reservations will fuck up your stats. Those folks are not kind to each other. True. But for that MT would have Iceland crime statistics. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:11:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably helps that only 177 of 578 departments in NJ are sharing their crime stats to the FBI. Compare that to the 126 out of 147 departments reporting in Utah, not surprising to see the artificially lower number from Jersey. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ. Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. Probably helps that only 177 of 578 departments in NJ are sharing their crime stats to the FBI. Compare that to the 126 out of 147 departments reporting in Utah, not surprising to see the artificially lower number from Jersey. Jersey doesn't have 578 municipalities with their own departments, so that seems like an odd number. Of course Florida takes the cake: Florida came in last with only two law enforcement agencies — or .26% of its 757 departments — participating. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:13:07 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UCR data is very, very sensitive to fuckery or laziness. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. UCR data is very, very sensitive to fuckery or laziness. Kind of hard to hide homicides. Maybe fuckery with thefts, but not the former. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:13:55 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jersey doesn't have 578 municipalities with their own departments, so that seems like an odd number. Of course Florida takes the cake: Florida came in last with only two law enforcement agencies — or .26% of its 757 departments — participating. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thats just homicides. Utah has a higher violent crime rate than NJ. Don't think the FBI cares about that, and it's not reportable through UCR. Probably helps that only 177 of 578 departments in NJ are sharing their crime stats to the FBI. Compare that to the 126 out of 147 departments reporting in Utah, not surprising to see the artificially lower number from Jersey. Jersey doesn't have 578 municipalities with their own departments, so that seems like an odd number. Of course Florida takes the cake: Florida came in last with only two law enforcement agencies — or .26% of its 757 departments — participating. Just going off of the official numbers posted on the FBI data site. Fact remains, NJ/NY severely under reported their crimes, per the FBI. No clue how much it would impact the total numbers but I'd be willing to bet they'd be bumped from the list. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:18:19 AM EDT
[#49]
newark, trenton, camden
philthydelphia yeah i believe that fucking bullshit |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:26:02 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of hard to hide homicides. Maybe fuckery with thefts, but not the former. I've always said that, and when you look at the states with the most and least homicides your lists are different than this list. |
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