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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:59:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 7:59:53 PM EDT
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In for the shitshow!
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:00:23 PM EDT
[#2]
In before Mormons aren’t Christians
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:00:33 PM EDT
[#3]
In on one.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:01:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks at Constitution.  

Nope not in the enumerated powers and duties of the federal government.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:01:15 PM EDT
[#5]
In!
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:01:52 PM EDT
[#6]
Ban amendment attached?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:02:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:02:44 PM EDT
[#8]
12 Republicans voted yes Roy Blunt, Richard Burr, Shelley Moore Capito, Susan Collins, Joni Ernst "my senator", Cynthia Lummis, Lisa Murkowski, Rob Portman, Mitt Romney, Dan Sullivan, Thom Tillis, and Todd Young
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:02:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:03:13 PM EDT
[#10]
What??
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:03:21 PM EDT
[#11]
The federal government has no business recognizing anyone's marriage.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:03:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:03:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Swell
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:03:56 PM EDT
[#14]
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Looks at Constitution.  

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ETA - I guess Congress does whatever they feel like these days.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:04:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Cliff notes?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:05:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Not worth the shit paper it's written on. It won't survive challenges through to the SCOTUS.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:05:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:05:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:05:43 PM EDT
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I once had high hopes for Joni Ernst.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:06:35 PM EDT
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In before GD solely blames Romney.

Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:06:41 PM EDT
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it always did
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:06:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Congrats America!
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:07:06 PM EDT
[#23]
When are they passing the Respect for Pedophilia act?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:07:48 PM EDT
[#24]

But why?

Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:00 PM EDT
[#25]
I firmly belive that any consenting adult human has the right to marry any other consenting adult human in the us legal system and be just as miserable as heterosexual people, and just as frustrated in divorce.
Maybe now that we got that out of the way, maybe congress can do something about the 20% inflation.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:09 PM EDT
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what do you mean had? Grassley and Ernst have been great.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:44 PM EDT
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Is that not part of this bill? I genuinely expected it would be.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:49 PM EDT
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This.
Tenth over rides.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:09:23 PM EDT
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Specifically, the bill repeals and replaces provisions that define, for purposes of federal law, marriage as between a man and a woman and spouse as a person of the opposite sex with provisions that recognize any marriage that is valid under state law. (The Supreme Court held that the current provisions were unconstitutional in United States v. Windsor in 2013.)

The bill also repeals and replaces provisions that do not require states to recognize same-sex marriages from other states with provisions that prohibit the denial of full faith and credit or any right or claim relating to out-of-state marriages on the basis of sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin. (The Supreme Court held that state laws barring same-sex marriages were unconstitutional in Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015; the Court held that state laws barring interracial marriages were unconstitutional in Loving v. Virginia in 1967.) The bill allows the Department of Justice to bring a civil action and establishes a private right of action for violations.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:09:28 PM EDT
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well i can find the arguments online.

also as always ... taxes
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:09:45 PM EDT
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Is that not part of this bill? I genuinely expected it would be.
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Genuinely? I don't believe you're that stupid.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:09:48 PM EDT
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Was this the vote for cloture or the actual vote? Sorry to ask but I went to rantingly and the link there said they were voting on Thursday.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:11:06 PM EDT
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Its actually a pretty concise bill.  Basically, if you're married anywhere in the country, for federal purposes, you're married.  If your married in a different state, said state has to respect the marriage laws in place at the time, in the jurisdiction you were married in.

The amendment that got it to pass basically says it doesn't apply to polygamy or force any private institution to conduct a marriage.

So, this is going to be a GREAT money maker for event venues that border a state that tries to reban gay marriage.  If Ohio tries anything here, I'm going to start running p3590's wedding venue, conveniently located at a rustic lake cottage 8 miles from the OH-MI border.


Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:11:17 PM EDT
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Having it struck down by SCOTUS will likely make it impossible to retry. Which is why they attached gun stuff to it, to kill it dead.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:00 PM EDT
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Having it struck down by SCOTUS will likely make it impossible to retry. Which is why they attached gun stuff to it, to kill it dead.
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Like FBHOcare?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:06 PM EDT
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Was this the vote for cloture or the actual vote? Sorry to ask but I went to rantingly and the link there said they were voting on Thursday.
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cloture.

but the current set list pretty much makes it a done deal unless something drastic happens on game day so to speak
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:38 PM EDT
[#37]
And we, as a nation, fall even further from God.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:41 PM EDT
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Its actually a pretty concise bill.  Basically, if you're married anywhere in the country, for federal purposes, you're married.  If your married in a different state, said state has to respect the marriage laws in place at the time, in the jurisdiction you were married in.

The amendment that got it to pass basically says it doesn't apply to polygamy or force any private institution to conduct a marriage.

So, this is going to be a GREAT money maker for event venues that border a state that tries to reban gay marriage.  If Ohio tries anything here, I'm going to start running p3590's wedding venue, conveniently located at a rustic lake cottage 8 miles from the OH-MI border.


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Sir, page one is too soon for facts and reason.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:14:01 PM EDT
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Genuinely? I don't believe you're that stupid.
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Is that not part of this bill? I genuinely expected it would be.

Genuinely? I don't believe you're that stupid.


You didn't think that congress would include a provision protecting some aspect of adults marrying children in this? I sure did.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:14:30 PM EDT
[#40]
Where are you guys seeing gun shit in this?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:02 PM EDT
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You didn't think that congress would include a provision protecting some aspect of adults marrying children in this? I sure did.
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No, I'm not an idiot.

You do you, though.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:14 PM EDT
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This is GD.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:37 PM EDT
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GD.

GD is the only source I have for gay news.


ETA beat like a whore.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:38 PM EDT
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So what all does the gun ban, ban?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:41 PM EDT
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Digging through the amendments and i'm not seeing that.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:16:02 PM EDT
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Gun related amendments? I hoped that was a joke. Is there seriously a mag ban rider on this totally unrelated bill?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:17:05 PM EDT
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No, I'm not an idiot.

You do you, though.
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You didn't think that congress would include a provision protecting some aspect of adults marrying children in this? I sure did.

No, I'm not an idiot.

You do you, though.





Well at least you don't sugar coat it. I can indeed be an idiot at times.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:17:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:17:27 PM EDT
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no matter what people say its not marriage

Link Posted: 11/29/2022 8:18:48 PM EDT
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Gun related amendments? I hoped that was a joke. Is there seriously a mag ban rider on this totally unrelated bill?
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Ditto.  I’m looking and can’t find any reference to a ban attached.  Is my Google-fu weak?

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