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Posted: 11/16/2018 2:06:48 PM EDT
6.5mm Grendel Hornady Black 123gr ELD Gel Test
High-speed video of 6.5mm Grendel Hornady Black 123gr ELD fired into calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin from a 12" AR-15 to assess terminal performance.  Great Grendel: 6.5mm Grendel Hornady Black 123gr ELD Gel Test High Speed Camera Courtesy of Aimed Research https://www.aimed-research.com/high-speed-camera-rentals.php [email protected] 724-877-5472 Penetration: 19.7" Retained weight: 96.6gr Max expansion: 0.645" Min expansion: 0.547" Neck: 1" TSC: 4" x 9" Velocities in fps: 2,264 2,243 2,237 2,257 2,270 Average: 2,254.20 StdDev: 13.92 Min: 2,237 Max: 2,270 Spread: 33 In case you missed it ( Older Videos ) Hipster Hotness: 6.5mm Grendel Hornady Custom 123gr SST Gel Test  Hipster Hotness: 6.5mm Grendel Hornady Custom 123gr SST Gel Test D3LLC's MP5SD Clone And Integrally Suppressed AR15s  D3LLC's MP5SD Clone And Integrally Suppressed AR15s Subscribe to AR15.Com's YouTube Channel. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 2:49:17 PM EDT
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Kinda weird that the ELD went deeper than the SST. They both will obviously get the job done though!
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:01:01 PM EDT
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Kinda weird that the ELD went deeper than the SST. They both will obviously get the job done though! Thanks for test! |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:11:08 PM EDT
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I expected the SST to expand sooner and more which would yield the results we have seen. Thanks for test! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kinda weird that the ELD went deeper than the SST. They both will obviously get the job done though! Thanks for test! |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:13:07 PM EDT
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When we did 123gr A-MAX gel tests versus 123gr SST, the high velocity impact performance was extremely close, with almost identical expansion and penetration.
A nice thing about these 12" tests is that they show what behavior would be like at 150yds if your mv was 2500fps from a longer barrel. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:21:38 PM EDT
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Makes me feel very comfortable using my grendel. Thanks for testing.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:26:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:50:38 PM EDT
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That's great. Now where can one buy a decent supply of 6.5 Grendel ammo that is not a $1 or $1.50 per round?
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Posted: 11/16/2018 4:07:19 PM EDT
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American gunner at sportsman's warehouse. $139 for 200rds.
Wolf steel case $229 per 1000. Neither are hunting rounds but would work in a pinch, ie shtf event. Great for plinking and function checks. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 4:13:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for the test!
any interest in testing Wolf 100gr 6.5G? I would certainly send you some, but it's like $5 a box. Probably cost more to ship it thanks! |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 4:48:45 PM EDT
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American gunner at sportsman's warehouse. $139 for 200rds. Wolf steel case $229 per 1000. Neither are hunting rounds but would work in a pinch, ie shtf event. Great for plinking and function checks. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:22:52 PM EDT
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That's great. Now where can one buy a decent supply of 6.5 Grendel ammo that is not a $1 or $1.50 per round? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:24:14 PM EDT
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That is nice expansion, good weight retention, and fabulous penetration. Like a previous person posted...either one would get the job done....and do a mighty good job of it too.
I am an unashamed Grendel fan, and think it is an excellent round. However, I think the Mutant mid size receivers are just perfect for this cartridge. I had two grendel's break bolts until I learned about truing the face of the upper receiver, and after that never had another one shear. For practical rifle matches that go past 600 yards, the Grendel is perfect... about 20% more recoil than a 5.56, hits steel plates with about 70% the energy of a 308, and stays supersonic at least as far as a 308. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:31:14 PM EDT
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Makes me feel very comfortable using my grendel. Thanks for testing. I passed on a doe early in the season and could not get a clear shot at nice buck yesterday. Maybe tomorrow my Grendel will get put to work. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:32:31 PM EDT
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That's great. Now where can one buy a decent supply of 6.5 Grendel ammo that is not a $1 or $1.50 per round? In fact I wish I had sent a few rounds of Nosler B-Tips for him to test. I don't think a manufacturer rolls them yet. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:56:38 PM EDT
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You might have seen these pics elsewhere, but I love this bullet and cartridge. Pure lung shot on the buck (duh) he ran 15 yards. The doe dropped DRT. Interestingly enough, the blood splatter on her side isn't where the bullet exited; I recovered it right under her skin about where the point of that "V" of blood is. I'll post it if I find it again. Something like 75% retention. I'd wager my .300WM Weatherby sees NO action in the foreseeable future.
16" Faxon, ~50 yards each shot. ETA doe was solid heart/lung devastation. I'll take internal pics of the next one I whack, which will hopefully be tomorrow morning. 
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Posted: 11/16/2018 7:13:38 PM EDT
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Killing it with these tests, thanks.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 7:23:37 PM EDT
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So you post his videos but you banned him.
This place is getting as fucked up as the federal government. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:10:05 PM EDT
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Thanks for the test! any interest in testing Wolf 100gr 6.5G? I would certainly send you some, but it's like $5 a box. Probably cost more to ship it thanks!  ) shipped in Wolf. Another poster contributed 120gr fusion.These test can run as long as the guy who bought the upper from me let’s them but I don’t think that will be much longer. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:13:19 PM EDT
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Velocitor (or something like that ) shipped in Wolf. Another poster contributed 120gr fusion.These test can run as long as the guy who bought the upper from me let’s them but I don’t think that will be much longer. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:36:30 PM EDT
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Now that bluefalcon is banned who do we contact to send the ammo to? I have some 100 and 120 Nosler handloads he can test if he is willing. Both are light loads, I don't play around with hot reloads. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:41:26 PM EDT
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Me. I transferred ownership of the upper but I can bring it up to the group. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:45:42 PM EDT
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So you post his videos but you banned him. This place is getting as fucked up as the federal government. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:52:31 PM EDT
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PM me with the address and I will mail some out Monday. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:56:52 PM EDT
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I emailed the group. Will PM address if approved. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:19:35 PM EDT
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I reload. In fact I wish I had sent a few rounds of Nosler B-Tips for him to test. I don't think a manufacturer rolls them yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's great. Now where can one buy a decent supply of 6.5 Grendel ammo that is not a $1 or $1.50 per round? In fact I wish I had sent a few rounds of Nosler B-Tips for him to test. I don't think a manufacturer rolls them yet. https://www.precisionfirearms.com |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:56:11 PM EDT
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I emailed the group. Will PM address if approved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PM me with the address and I will mail some out Monday. 
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Posted: 11/17/2018 3:07:21 PM EDT
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My oldest is a couple years away from being old enough to hunt, was originally thinking a bolt action .243 in a youth stock would be the way to go, but now I'm thinking that a Grendel upper for his AR would be perfect.
While .223/5.56 is legal for deer here in Utah, 6.5 would give him some flexibility for elk as well. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:53:14 AM EDT
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Hi- FWIW- here is a bullet from this round recovered from a whitetail I shot yesterday. 12.5” barrel deer was 100-150 yards away...
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Posted: 11/18/2018 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Hi- FWIW- here is a bullet from this round recovered from a whitetail I shot yesterday. 12.5” barrel deer was 100-150 yards away... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/429888/AA206166-2912-4F48-9393-AF826887996A_jpeg-743010.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/429888/DEB6E45D-0FCA-43E7-9F64-96F9C029EAA9_jpeg-743012.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/429888/D8CB9C43-3753-4C2F-83FF-3E99C02490E3_jpeg-743013.JPG |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 7:52:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where was the jacket and core at inside the deer? Which 6.5 load? The deer was quartering away, the bullet went through rib cage and lungs. I actually wasn’t looking for the bullet but noticed the core lying on the ground as I was dressing the deer. I found the jacket embedded in the hide opposite of where it entered, it had travelled forward through the deer quite a ways. |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 10:16:42 AM EDT
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Thanks,again ! Excellent video.
Proved that it is the best in the AR platform,for me. Have been shooting mine almost two years now. Got a bolt gun too. Does all i need ,for a rifle caliber. |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 4:00:57 PM EDT
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A guy in Canada just used the 123gr ELD-M to do this:
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Posted: 11/19/2018 6:06:57 PM EDT
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Hi- it’s the factory load used in the gel test in this thread: 6.5mm Grendel Hornady Black 123gr ELD The deer was quartering away, the bullet went through rib cage and lungs. I actually wasn’t looking for the bullet but noticed the core lying on the ground as I was dressing the deer. I found the jacket embedded in the hide opposite of where it entered, it had travelled forward through the deer quite a ways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Where was the jacket and core at inside the deer? Which 6.5 load? The deer was quartering away, the bullet went through rib cage and lungs. I actually wasn’t looking for the bullet but noticed the core lying on the ground as I was dressing the deer. I found the jacket embedded in the hide opposite of where it entered, it had travelled forward through the deer quite a ways. |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 10:02:24 AM EDT
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So you post his videos but you banned him. This place is getting as fucked up as the federal government. |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 10:04:10 AM EDT
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A guy in Canada just used the 123gr ELD-M to do this: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/20181113_214120_zpspwhux8bi.jpg |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 10:06:16 AM EDT
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Grendel? Or Creedmore? |
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Posted: 11/23/2018 12:27:53 AM EDT
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My 12yo got a nice muley doe this year with the Black 123 ELD load and 12" carbine.
We hunted the high country and stalked to 215y. Nearly broadside, entry textbook behind the shoulder, fragged the opposite shoulder, core exited at an angle through the diaphragm and nicked the top of the stomach, punching a small hole in the hide leaving. Great performance at low velocity. May use for cow elk later if hunting in the trees. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 9:57:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 10:09:51 AM EDT
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That was a grendel. Write up on the 6.5grendel forums. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grendel? Or Creedmore? |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 1:39:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:13:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:32:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:44:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:48:05 PM EDT
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Makes me happy with my choice to build a 12.5” Grendel micro-Recce/PDW rifle thingy.
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 3:53:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2018 4:32:00 PM EDT
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Please take it to the pit.
I like the gel test videos, they are well done and the perfect length. This was a thread about the ELD-M out of a Grendel and it gave me needed info. I knew BF was banned and didn’t care why as long as the videos still got made. As a simple noname user I ask this thread stay on track. |
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