People look at different standards of preparedness.

Some people think that can be self-sufficient forever, which is unrealistic.

Some think that having a year of stuff is needed.

The government tells you to have enough stuff for 3 days, the initial time frame for a disaster.

Is 3 months enough?  

Is it too much?

No one is coming to save you.
Plan accordingly.

I agree with the premise that having some preparations puts you way ahead of the curve…

Everything is a damn video these days. I want to read on the toilet, not listen to people yammer on and on.

I like that channel. Hard to put a number on what makes sense. It would suck to have a house with years of preps and it gets  burned down. You have to be ready to hunker down, or to walk away from it. Prepping for X number of months and devoting all further prepping time/resources to camping, bushcraft, hunting, fishing, and gardening might be the best approach.

I have a couple months worth of ramen noodles

Prepping for even say 80% independence from modern society is at best a few years worth.

The truth is that most preppers are actually preparing for the hope that the government  saves them at some point. A hard truth,  but reality.

When can we start eating people?

I walk around the house sometimes with my IPad,  just saying.

Pretty much, doesn't have to be "the" government, but people won't all magically lose their skills or become evil the moment SHTF. After the initial wave of robberies and faggotry, eventually one would hope to form some semblance of organization and get utilities working again. At least the way I see it.

Every dumbass and their brother wants to sap your life away by taking 15 minutes to tell you something you could have read in 30 seconds.

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IMO, you need two years worth of food. That will get you thru your first harvest, and the second harvest if your first crops fail. And when I say two year’s worth of food, I don’t mean at a starvation diet-there is a difference between being Fed and being Not Hungry.

The best time to start prepping is 10 years ago. There is never enough time, it has to be a lifestyle that you are continually evolving. I have friends that are hardcore to the point it makes me feel like an amature but by most people’s standards-even ARFCOM’s standards-I am way overboard.

You definitely want to have *something* put back. It doesn’t have to be 55 gallon drums of beans and rice, but something to get you thru some rough times is extremely prudent. We buy insurance for our houses in case we have a fire. We have insurance in case we get in a car wreck. We have health insurance in case we get sick….. But hardly anyone puts food and necessities away in case the Trains Stop Running On Time.

A month without basic services, government, or access to normal economic function would really cause a separation of the Rice from the Rat Shit in society. A tiny percentage of the people left after that would be preppers, and everyone else would be either extremely lucky or extremely violent.

Seriously, even something as simple as Mailbox Money coming to an end in major cities would mean Biblical levels of starvation and violence. Our society is sooo fragile.

I was talking to one of the neighbor ladies during the plandemic about such things,  I told her I was planning on being the neighborhood warlord.

After the feral cat population has been decimated?

Yep. The FSA checks have to stop for shit to get real.

Depending on your morality and hunger, as soon as 911 stops working.

Everything I have past 1 week's worth of food is Soylent Green.  The Future is Now

Imagine needing a gallon of clean, fresh water for every person in your family, every day, without plumbing. Most people won’t make it 3 weeks.

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Can’t stand this YT channel anymore. Ever since Russia moved on Ukraine every video title is saying the world is ending. Then he spends the first 3 min of every video saying how he’s not using scare tactics to get clicks for views.

I’d shoot for 2 gallons… depending on climate and activity.

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More is definitely better.

I agree with rationing periods by not overusing them FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL.

Aha, I have conditioned myself to live on only bourbon.

So much easier to store long term.

Nice. I’ve got 10 handles of rot gut Old Crow in my pantry. Right now I wouldn’t clean my dishes with it but if the balloon ever goes up it will be liquid gold.

96 hours.

Based upon my experiences in Africa, the most important preparation is networking/community.

Lone wolves get slaughtered. Ammo forts get burned down unless protected by sufficient numbers. Unless you are Mormon with adult children your immediate facility is not likely to be sufficient numbers to hold off a mob of bandits/looters for long.

Just he initial question is odd.

The casual hiker vs an experienced bushman but the creator neglects the extra skills an experienced woodsman will have over the casual.

How hard would it really to find a pure source of water for an experienced woodsman?

So in the scenario the woodsman doesnt have a water filter, so stops a dozen or so feet from the water source, and uses a digging bar hes fashions by a decent sized stick to dig into the water table to get naturally filtered water.

The difference between a casual and someone living it is immense, because even without the material advantage the skills from experience can get you through a lot of situations, and you arent relying on material items that might be stolen or destroyed.

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If SHTF / Grid Down goes longer than 3 months, I’ll prolly be dead from the Mutant Zombie Biker hordes.

One could make an argument that if a SHTF event isn't going to be resolved in 90 days, it won't get resolved for an extended period of time. In that instance, you will have to have a functioning mostly self-sufficient homestead already established. However, IMHO to have such a homestead, it's an avocation, not a hobby. And, it's exceptionally time consuming as well as expensive.

So, bottom line is that 90 days is a good target. If you don't already have a functioning, mostly self-sufficient homestead already, you'd need to have, at a minimum, enough food for 2 years (as mentioned above), alternative power, a water source (or two), septic, a way to acquire livestock, enough fertile soil to start growing food, and a way to protect all that (which would likely include like-minded neighbors as a MAG).

Truth be told, most folks don't have 72 hours worth of food in their home even though that's what FEMA has been suggesting for ages. (They suggest that because in the event of major natural disaster in an area, it generally takes them 72 hours to marshal the resources to respond and it may take 3 days for relief crews to get to the disaster location from across the country.) Some other .gov departments have been saying that first-responder local and state crews should plan to be self-sufficient for 2 weeks vs 3 days. I'd take that to mean that us "regular folks" need to have a minimum of 2 weeks stuff as well. I know after PR got hit by Hurricane Maria, it took 2 weeks for the first fuel deliveries to start and only to "essential service" folks (like hospitals) initially. It took longer than 2 weeks for places to reopen to sell supplies and repair hardware and even at that it was cash only because the communications infrastructure was non-existent due to damage. Some folks on the island were not back on-line power wise for months.

Prepare to be unprepared.

In most natural disasters, even the bad ones, 10 - 15 days of water + 7 days of food will get you through until help arrives.

In some dire event where infrastructure is shut down or some level of international famine, 3 - 4 months will get you past the point where demand on supplies has significantly decreased.  If you have 6 months worth or more, you're golden.

My local gov has moved away from the three days mantra of preparedness and up it to two weeks.
Looking at recent disasters and lack of gov response has left me doubting I am wealthy enough or have enough hours in the day to prepare for anything lasting longer than a month. By then I am sure I will be removed for my safety.

I know your pain. I don't have time to watch a fuckload of videos everyday, and half of the time I have no idea what it's about. Not this time, but plenty of others. Gets old pretty quick.

Pump water at night. Put up a privacy fence or wall.

Yeah. And his practical information is just basic. You can learn way more from other sources.

No shit.  Some people think everybody else likes to hear them talk as much as they like to hear themselves.

We’re setup for 6 months full self sustainability with comfort in mind. Could push it to 10 months if we rationed.

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Did she offer her butt as a sign of early submission to secure entry into your kingdom?

Government analysis done years ago said that 1/3 of the US will starve to death within 30 days of an EMP attack.

Grocery stores have only a few days of stock, with no transportation system to move food, most of us are SOL.

The starving hordes will be hard to fight without a lot of local cooperation.  So not only do you need food, but your neighbors as well, otherwise they become part of the horde.  You have to sleep sometime.

May you live in interesting times...

If things in your area have gotten so bad you are going to get randomly popped pumping well water you don't have a chance anyway.
Someone will burn you out and pick over the wreckage.

After watching Naked and Afraid for ten years/15 seasons the number one survival tool is your mind set/attitude. More people tap out due to their head than hunger.

Whatever you can do to prepare your head for the work required will pay off more than any stuff you have in your pack.

Even 3 months of supplies puts you 1000.miles ahead of your average citizen who barely has 3 days of food on hand.

Cite?

While this has proven to be reality time and time again for disaster victims, the task of “being prepared” for a worse-case scenario can be overwhelming.

I tell everyone new to the game to just have the basic preps for three weeks. Three weeks without water, electricity, food, access to medicine/medications, cash on hand, heat sources, cooking sources, etc. That’s feasible to build up on a budget over 6-12 months if one can discipline themselves to those basic priorities.

What the fuck are you trying to survive anyways? The biggest gap in one’s preparation plans is simply assessing the threat vectors that may impact them. Sure, we should all be prepared for a house fire, job loss, significant illness, but what about that train derailment with toxic chemicals that boot you out of your neighborhood for six months? We do and should plan for seasonal events like blizzards, ice storms, heat waves, droughts, floods, wildfires, hurricanes, tornados, etc. Those are pretty consistent events where they commonly occur each season.  

What about civil unrest? That really depends on where you live, the political landscape, in or near larger metropolitan areas, etc. What about the next terror attack? It may not be in your city or even your state, but it could disrupt supplies and create general chaos; I would prefer hunkering down for a week or three just to avoid scared, stupid people. Civil War? Yeah, it’s always a possibility; however, the only fortunate aspect is that if it’s not fully funded by foreign investors, Americans in general have a short attention span and most violent efforts would fizzle out in a month or two…just my guesstimation.

Another question is if you’re trying to survive a crisis in normal conditions verse surviving a crisis without rule of law or very non-permissive/very-restrictive environments?

I think the goal should be independent preparations that could sustain you and your family for 3-6 months is the best goal to keep you alive after a massive regional or national catastrophe. If local communities (smaller, rural ones), can’t come together in 6 months after a major catastrophe with no government assistance, to organize, establish trading posts, communications, security, and reestablish some semblance of rule and order, we don’t deserve to survive.

For a serious situation with no rescue, support, or government assistance and recovery:

3 weeks of preparations puts you above 87% of other Americans as far as survival.

3-6 months of preparations puts you in the top tier of survivors, like the top 5% of survivors.

12+months of preparation to live independently puts you in the post-apocalypse War-Lord category.

Another consideration is that even you if you have livestock, chickens, pigs, and a big’ol garden, you may need 3-6 months to get into the planting/harvesting season. Having enough preparations to get there is pretty damn important.

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This will give you plenty of time on the toilet...

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