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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:58:03 PM EDT
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"Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all nursing home patients — apparently related to the side effects of the shots, health officials said. Common reactions to the vaccine, including fever and nausea, “may have contributed to a fatal outcome in some frail patients,” Sigurd Hortemo, chief physician at the Norwegian Medicines Agency, said in a Friday statement. All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine. The news comes just over a week after officials reported the deaths of just two nursing home residents after they received the Pfizer jab. More than 30,000 people in Norway have received the first shot of the Pfizer or Moderna coronavirus vaccine in the Scandinavian country since late last month, according to official figures. “We are not alarmed by this,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients.” “Doctors must now carefully consider who should be vaccinated,” he added. “Those who are very frail and at the very end of life can be vaccinated after an individual assessment.”" Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population. |
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I was just coming to post this.
Being a beta tester can be serious... |
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LOL
Why are we fighting COVID-19, we should learn from it as it's removed 99% of flu deaths world wide. |
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That’s like 1/10 of a percent, vs what percentage if they are old and get Covid? It’s not for everyone, but they rolled the dice and as a group likely came out ahead.
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This is why they wanted it to go to healthy front line people first.
They knew it was deadly from the beginning. |
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And I'm still OK with Hollywired elites, our political leeduhship, the MSM and those wonderful stars of the Nasty Felon League or Nasty Bowel Assn get the shots first.
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Every single person who gets the Pfizer shots will die after receiving the Pfizer shots.
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So we all have to lock down because old people are dying in nursing homes, but dont worry about old people dying after the shot because they die all the time for like no reason.
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So, when old people were dying of "covid" in nursing homes it was a "pandemic", but when they throw 7's after toe vaccine they're just old people dying in nursing homes
LOL, people are so fucking gullible. I never understood battered wife syndrome until I witnessed the coronahokum syndrome. |
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People: "Covid only kills the old and the medically frail. For healthy people it's no big deal 99.7% of the time. Focusing on the rare cases with bad outcomes is dishonest and only serves to make you afraid. They're over hyping the numbers. If you're worried about the virus you're a sheep."
[Vaccine introduced that has rare negative side effects, almost exclusively with the old and medically frail] Same people: "OMG! The vaccine isn't safe! My neighbor's bosse's college girlfriend got palsy from it, but they're claiming it "can't officially be linked to the vaccine!" Don't take it or you'll die! .03% of healthy people will suffer a bad side effect for a day or two! Doom! DOOOOM!" I don't care which side of the covid fence you're on - but I wish people would just pick a logical thought process and stick with it. I was a skeptical guy before all this. Now I believe nothing. There can be no honest debate about this anymore because more and more people on both sides are latching onto their opinions and then fanatically defending them, with arguments so tragically flawed and contradictory that they completely discredit their entire platform - even if their original idea was correct. |
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Quoted: I don't know about that but I don't want my mother taking the pfizer vaccine. Nor did I before. Pfizer sucks at vaccines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Every single person who gets the Pfizer shots will die after receiving the Pfizer shots. My mother wants it. I respect her wishes. |
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Quoted: Source "Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all nursing home patients — apparently related to the side effects of the shots, health officials said. (snip) Health officials noted that around 400 people die each week in the nursing home population. View Quote That last quote is extremely important to give context to the numbers. Correlation doesn't equal causation -- unless you have an agenda. Then any flimsy rationale will do. Also: "apparently related to the side effects of the shots". Really. 400 a week die on a regular basis, and so how do you logically assume those *13* are "apparently" from the vaccine, unless you have an agenda. Fake news to push more lockdowns. |
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Quoted: So, when old people were dying of "covid" in nursing homes it was a "pandemic", but when they throw 7's after toe vaccine they're just old people dying in nursing homes LOL, people are so fucking gullible. I never understood battered wife syndrome until I witnessed the coronahokum syndrome. View Quote Yup. We have a bunch dumb fuckers on this sight, in this VERY THREAD that are fucking too stupid or in so much denial that you can't pull their heads out of their asses because it's super-glued in. Fucking IDIOTS! |
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According to official statistics, 511 people have died of Covid in the last 10 months in Norway. If they have 400 people dying every week in nursing homes, both numbers are insignificant.
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99 yo mom in hospice......The facility was asking me for permission to jab. I said she can make that decision herself. She was on the fence earlier.
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Quoted: People: "Covid only kills the old and the medically frail. For healthy people it's no big deal 99.7% of the time. Focusing on the rare cases with bad outcomes is dishonest and only serves to make you afraid. They're over hyping the numbers. If you're worried about the virus you're a sheep." [Vaccine introduced that has rare negative side effects, almost exclusively with the old and medically frail] Same people: "OMG! The vaccine isn't safe! My neighbor's bosse's college girlfriend got palsy from it, but they're claiming it "can't officially be linked to the vaccine!" Don't take it or you'll die! .03% of healthy people will suffer a bad side effect for a day or two! Doom! DOOOOM!" I don't care which side of the covid fence you're on - but I wish people would just pick a logical thought process and stick with it. I was a skeptical guy before all this. Now I believe nothing. There can be no honest debate about this anymore because more and more people on both sides are latching onto their opinions and then fanatically defending them, with arguments so tragically flawed and contradictory that they completely discredit their entire platform - even if their original idea was correct. View Quote Understanding all of this requires basic understanding of math, which automatically makes it a futile effort for most of the populace. This past year, I've learned that projecting a disease might kill from 500k to 1.5 million people over the course of its outbreak means there will be bodies on the streets within a month. It also means that a later published estimate of .3% of a population of over 330 million people potentially dying is somehow proof those earlier estimates were way off, and definitely less sensational or worrisome than talk of a million dying. Estimates of as low as 200k dead from last March were the work of "doomers," but now that we're at twice that, reality proves those "doomers" were wrong. I foolishly estimated we would hold at under 100k dead and was called a doomer for it. And there is no point trying to get into the details of how statistics are compiled, and why you don't have real time numbers for non COVID deaths, and why even our COVID daily death count will be continuously revised over time. |
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Quoted: I don't know about that but I don't want my mother taking the pfizer vaccine. Nor did I before. Pfizer sucks at vaccines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Every single person who gets the Pfizer shots will die after receiving the Pfizer shots. He’s trying to be funny? I dunno. He posts this in a lot of vaccine threads. Based off some lame boomer meme along the lines of: Everyone that has taken the 1st _____vaccine died. Because they would be 200 years old if still alive Edited words |
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Quoted: Estimates of as low as 200k dead from last March were the work of "doomers," but now that we're at twice that, reality proves those "doomers" were wrong. I foolishly estimated we would hold at under 100k dead and was called a doomer for it. And there is no point trying to get into the details of how statistics are compiled, and why you don't have real time numbers for non COVID deaths, and why even our COVID daily death count will be continuously revised over time. View Quote We are all using flawed numbers. Of the over 300,000 supposed Wuhan flu deaths, how many were because asswipes like Cuomo sent infected people back into nursing homes? How many thousands or tens of thousands were people who died of other reasons but possibly had the virus...thus the virus killed them? |
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In an average January, about 8,500 U.S. residents die per day, total.
Keep that in mind. |
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Not sure why this is news...old frail people get sick and die
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Quoted: We are all using flawed numbers. Of the over 300,000 supposed Wuhan flu deaths, how many were because asswipes like Cuomo sent infected people back into nursing homes? How many thousands or tens of thousands were people who died of other reasons but possibly had the virus...thus the virus killed them? View Quote Wait, so you're suggesting covid kills a lot of people only because of negligence due to cuomo. Also you're suggesting covid doesn't kill people, and it is all fake or inflated. Which is it? |
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