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Link Posted: 5/25/2021 9:03:08 AM EDT
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This isn’t the case at all.  Just about every major population center had a “Black Wall Street” to some degree.  What killed them ironically was desegregation/the end of black and white parallel economies.  Harlem is still a decent example.
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Exactly.This guy gets it!!!
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 9:05:48 AM EDT
I'd like to remind the Gallery that in 1921

there were still a helluva lot of people in OK ( especially outside of Tulsa and OKC) that were riding horses and mules. there were trolleys, trains, but cars and trucks were mostly for businesses. my own grandfather was delivering Ice by mule and wagon almost till WW2 in small towns.

then all of a sudden you have a wealthy black population that shows up driving cars, dressed to the nines, building nice homes and businesses. taking over damn near half the town. your own poor to middlin's just got more poor to middlin's.

imagine the some of richest black people of Detroit, KC, NYC, Chicago, Cleveland, etc...etc all moving here at within a year of each other. all bringing their own issues here. all trying to out do each other.

the class and social issues were just too much, too fast.

as Monger said,

Desegregation shattered the institutional "Black Economy".
until the 60's there were basically 2 (maybe 3) economies in the US.

white  
black
(maybe you can count jewish)
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 9:34:23 AM EDT
There was a big race riot in Chicago in 1919.  Black people swimmin in white waters. But that didn't happen until July 27.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 10:22:32 AM EDT
I think alot of people are having a difficult time comprehending the fact that there was a time and place in this country that blacks weren’t second class citizens.Blacks were thriving and successful.It’s not something that’s openly discussed or acknowledged.The question then quickly becomes what the hell happened?Why are blacks today so far behind? Where did things go wrong?
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 11:59:53 AM EDT
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Maybe change the title to Tulsa Race Riots.  Or just leave it at Tulsa Holocaust.
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I get that.   But, the TV show, web articles, and others show up as the Tulsa Race Massacre, but do mention it alternatively as the Tulsa race riot.


To me, it seemed more like a series of riots.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 12:07:15 PM EDT
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This isn’t the case at all.  Just about every major population center had a “Black Wall Street” to some degree.  What killed them ironically was desegregation/the end of black and white parallel economies.  Harlem is still a decent example.
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Jackson, MS had Farish Street. Black doctors, lawyers, and bankers and a few restaurants. After desegregation it became a ghetto shithole and the rich black folks moved out to either live in the white suburbs or places like Atlanta, Chicago, and Detroit.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 1:23:57 PM EDT
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The question then quickly becomes what the hell happened?Why are blacks today so far behind? Where did things go wrong?
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Targeted government dependence campaigns. Don't worry, they're coming for the rest of us too.

Another issue is that the revisionist historians can't explain thing in objective terms and let people see them for what they were-terrible or otherwise. They exert their influence tosensationalize things which detracts from the reality. The holocaust was horrible, for example, but it didn't target Jews exclusively as is so often implied. Catholics, homosexuals, the mentally ill were all also targeted. It also wasn't the only genocide to take place in the 20th century.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 2:02:30 PM EDT
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This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it.
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I never heard of it either.  That is why all this publicity is needed...  

   How are they powers that be going to stir up enough racial hatred and resentment for their needs without a full-court press by all the media and corporate allies?  

    Didn't something similar happen in Haiti too?
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 2:11:39 PM EDT
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There was actually private aircraft dropping bombs.

How crazy is that?  First bombs ever dropped by an airplane over a US city?

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Well, that is a bit crazy, but I was also shocked that apparently a couple police helicopters have been shot down over L.A.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 6:29:37 PM EDT
Just saw Xiden is headed to Tulsa for the events. Bets on announcing reparations?

clown world
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 6:45:10 PM EDT
I've heard of it before.  As I have the 1811 slave uprising on the German Coast in Louisiana.  And the riots in New Orleans in the late 1800s.

(For example, the police chief in New Orleans was murdered.  As he lay dying, he was asked who did it and reportedly he said, 'Dagos'.  Hence, Italian immigrants started getting their asses kicked in during a riot)

Another,
Somewhere in or around 1900 a black man was accused of either killing or raping a white woman in New Orleans (no one knows if it was true but it could have been).  The working class whites in the city went apeshit and another riot was kicked off.  Interestingly enough, the upper class white citizens did not like this at all.  They met at the Henry Clay statue on Canal Street and decided to put up fliers that said essentially if you don't knock this shit off, we're giving the black folks guns.  Needless to say the rioting ended.
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 6:48:59 PM EDT
Gotta stoke the flames


Link Posted: 5/25/2021 6:59:21 PM EDT
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I think alot of people are having a difficult time comprehending the fact that there was a time and place in this country that blacks weren’t second class citizens.Blacks were thriving and successful.It’s not something that’s openly discussed or acknowledged.The question then quickly becomes what the hell happened?Why are blacks today so far behind? Where did things go wrong?
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Democrats turned them into economic slaves
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:38:36 AM EDT
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White girl said black kid touched her. He was arrested, group of white guys went to lynch him. Group of black guys went to protect him. Someone black fingerfuckined a gun. A shot went off. Blacks killed a buncha whites. Then whites went chimp on the blacks. No one for sure knows how many blacks were killed. No one talked about it afterwards.
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So what “really” happened all those years ago?


White girl said black kid touched her. He was arrested, group of white guys went to lynch him. Group of black guys went to protect him. Someone black fingerfuckined a gun. A shot went off. Blacks killed a buncha whites. Then whites went chimp on the blacks. No one for sure knows how many blacks were killed. No one talked about it afterwards.

The way I heard it was a white man tried to take a gun from a black man at the jail and got shot for his trouble. I can see it, a stupid racist goes up to a black WW1 vet and says, Whatchoo doin with that gun boy! Grabs it by the muzzle. Bang
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:53:59 AM EDT
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I'd like to remind the Gallery that in 1921

there were still a helluva lot of people in OK ( especially outside of Tulsa and OKC) that were riding horses and mules. there were trolleys, trains, but cars and trucks were mostly for businesses. my own grandfather was delivering Ice by mule and wagon almost till WW2 in small towns.

then all of a sudden you have a wealthy black population that shows up driving cars, dressed to the nines, building nice homes and businesses. taking over damn near half the town. your own poor to middlin's just got more poor to middlin's.

imagine the some of richest black people of Detroit, KC, NYC, Chicago, Cleveland, etc...etc all moving here at within a year of each other. all bringing their own issues here. all trying to out do each other.

the class and social issues were just too much, too fast.

as Monger said,

Desegregation shattered the institutional "Black Economy".
until the 60's there were basically 2 (maybe 3) economies in the US.

white  
black
(maybe you can count jewish)
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Yeah, my Great Grandfather didn't get electricity until 1959 in SW Oklahoma. A decade later there was a man on the moon. That's insane to me.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:56:07 AM EDT
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I'm 41 and grew up here in Oklahoma. In school it was referred to as the "Tulsa Riots". Then I believe while I was in college or not long after graduating it was referred to as the "Tulsa Race Riots". Now it's being talked about on the local channels and spoken about almost daily on the local news as the "Tulsa Race Massacre". Thousands if not close to a million dollars has been spent trying to locate these so-called mass graves where dozens or hundreds of black people are buried. Not a single grave or body has been discovered and likely won't. When they search and area it's on the news and then they're "Ohhhh, well we know another place we think the graves will be." They keep doing that and repeating the same "I can't believe the graves weren't here. Let's go check over there."

There has never been any discussion in school or dinner tables about a massacre. It's my belief there wasn't a massacre and there wasn't a massive cover up by the media. You have a few 100+ year old people "recalling" random black citizens being murdered in the streets but not a single body has been found. No body = no murder. Not a single white survivor has come forward to say "Yes, I saw my pappy mow down defenseless nig***s with his gun."

There was never a massacre and it's a shame this lie is being told enough people believe it now. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
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Plot twist.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 2:07:28 AM EDT
If black Wall Street wasn’t burned down by racists we would have flying cars on Mars right now
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 11:40:57 AM EDT
To the "What happened to the rich black people, why didn't they rebuild!?!?!?" I think a bit of Oklahoma history might help.

The time between the forced relocation (Trail of Tears) of native americans from the east to Oklahoma is about the same time as WWII to now.  Not modern history, but recent enough to be fresh on everyone's minds.  None of the tribes in control of that area and a large portion of the population were from there.  A large portion of the black population was migrating after the Civil War, settled about 55 years previous to these events.  About the same time frame as Vietnam to now.

30 years before the race riot was the Oklahoma land run, to the west of Tulsa.  Tulsa was roughly around the confluence of the Osage, Cherokee and Creek land grants.  

The Cherokees are the tribe I am most familiar with and they have a complex history and relationship with black people.  In many cases the Cherokees had freed the slaves and they had a great deal more rights in Oklahoma than they would have in the rest of the country.  

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the locals had a "fuck whitey" mentality.  This would have been under a lot of pressure as Tulsa became the oil capital of the world around the race riot time.  

As to the bodies being dumped in the (Arkansas river), consider me a skeptic.  The river does flood and would push things downstream at times, but most of the time it is pretty slow moving.  I think you would have ended up with a stinking piles of bodies.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:20:32 PM EDT
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As to the bodies being dumped in the (Arkansas river), consider me a skeptic.  The river does flood and would push things downstream at times, but most of the time it is pretty slow moving.  I think you would have ended up with a stinking piles of bodies.
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As I understand it, the Arkansas river isn't near as large as it used to be because of the Pueblo Reservoir, which wasn't built until the 70's.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:24:54 PM EDT
The Tulsa Peaceful Protest is another tool the left will use to convert historical events into political power. Don’t fall for it, it’s all bullshit.



Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:35:47 PM EDT
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As I understand it, the Arkansas river isn't near as large as it used to be because of the Pueblo Reservoir, which wasn't built until the 70's.
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As to the bodies being dumped in the (Arkansas river), consider me a skeptic.  The river does flood and would push things downstream at times, but most of the time it is pretty slow moving.  I think you would have ended up with a stinking piles of bodies.

As I understand it, the Arkansas river isn't near as large as it used to be because of the Pueblo Reservoir, which wasn't built until the 70's.


Understood.  There is also the Keystone reservoir right above downtown Tulsa now, which did not exist then.  However, they were taking a lot of water from the river even back then.  It is not a huge or fast flowing river, if you dump a bunch bodies in it they would not have disappeared.  There is a reason the river flows into reservoirs in many spots, it has historically been feast or famine with water supply.
Link Posted: 5/26/2021 1:36:51 PM EDT
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I'm 41 and grew up here in Oklahoma. In school it was referred to as the "Tulsa Riots". Then I believe while I was in college or not long after graduating it was referred to as the "Tulsa Race Riots". Now it's being talked about on the local channels and spoken about almost daily on the local news as the "Tulsa Race Massacre". Thousands if not close to a million dollars has been spent trying to locate these so-called mass graves where dozens or hundreds of black people are buried. Not a single grave or body has been discovered and likely won't. When they search and area it's on the news and then they're "Ohhhh, well we know another place we think the graves will be." They keep doing that and repeating the same "I can't believe the graves weren't here. Let's go check over there."

There has never been any discussion in school or dinner tables about a massacre. It's my belief there wasn't a massacre and there wasn't a massive cover up by the media. You have a few 100+ year old people "recalling" random black citizens being murdered in the streets but not a single body has been found. No body = no murder. Not a single white survivor has come forward to say "Yes, I saw my pappy mow down defenseless nig***s with his gun."

There was never a massacre and it's a shame this lie is being told enough people believe it now. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
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