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Posted: 11/26/2019 6:46:00 PM EDT
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VA’s going fucking full retard
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:48:41 PM EDT
Somebody fell out of the dumb tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:49:07 PM EDT
GEEEZZZZ, holly flaming batsh!t...they want it all.  Humm....actually surprised they didn't go after the training before the guns but hey come Jan they will vote on all of it so I guess it didnt' matter.

How many is this going to piss off....

Just because I am usually late to the party:

In on one
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:49:46 PM EDT
That isn't just training classes. That creates an ability for the state to "he said she said" any group of guys shooting together into felonies.

Are those of you so naive as to previously have thought this current push was just for controlling weapons themselves coming over to the fact that the intent of the legislature is subjugation of the population?

They have upped the ante. I suppose it is time for us to up it right back.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:49:55 PM EDT
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They are trying to out retard Commiefornia.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:49:58 PM EDT
so you are a felon if you teach a ccw class or show your kid how to handle guns safely?

socialist are stupid beyond belief
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:50:03 PM EDT
That first post thing....
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:50:58 PM EDT
No more CHL training classes.

No more firearms training/safety classes.

No more martial arts classes.

Full retard has been engaged.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:52:13 PM EDT
Makes assembly with firearms illegal...
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:52:58 PM EDT
So much for the freedom of assembly.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:55:14 PM EDT
None of this surprises me. Coincidentally, I was just thinking about this this morning.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:55:51 PM EDT
Fuck them
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:56:25 PM EDT
Quail hunt by oil co.  execs at a game preserve is a felony now???
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:56:56 PM EDT
goddamn
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:58:05 PM EDT
Im not a rocket scientist .. .. but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn , and I am pretty sure it's almost " fo " time in Virginia .
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:58:12 PM EDT
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Bingo.

Basically enjoying firearms with anyone else will be illegal in some way shape or form.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:59:35 PM EDT
You guys should ____________ < probable  COC violation but holds politicians responsible
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:59:40 PM EDT
Yeah, not like they would ever EVER use that law against ANTIFA.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:00:00 PM EDT
There's only one real way to stop this.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:00:01 PM EDT
Wow.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:00:46 PM EDT
I was hoping that all of this push back might slow them down or at least cause them to pause. Nope, they are doubling down. Not good.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:00:56 PM EDT
Will the VA militia show up with sharp sticks?

Reminds me of what SCOTUS said in Presser v. Illinois.

It is undoubtedly true that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force or reserve militia of the United States as well as of the States, and in view of this prerogative of the general government, as well as of its general powers, the States cannot, even laying the constitutional provision in question out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms, so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security, and disable the people from performing their duty to the general government. But, as already stated, we think it clear that the sections under consideration do not have this effect.
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I'd say what VA intends does have this effect.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:01:06 PM EDT
1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:02:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:02:29 PM EDT
How dare people assemble for militia stuff!
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:03:54 PM EDT
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
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It is not poorly, but perfectly, worded. It enables them to use it towards the ends they desire.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:06:46 PM EDT
This is gonna get bad.

For them.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:06:58 PM EDT
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You don’t need to have guns to violate this law. You could violate it with blue guns. You could violate it by teaching TTP.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:08:20 PM EDT
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SENATE BILL NO. 64
Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.
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Patron-- Lucas
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Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be, amended to is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
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So they're going after freedom of speech too?

Can parts of VA be surgically removed from the rest of the United States?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:08:48 PM EDT
That is utterly nuts, and completely unsurprising.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:09:36 PM EDT
Is there a cop carve out as usual?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:09:59 PM EDT
You get the leadership you vote for..

Build a wall around Va

I hope the big earthquake washes it all away..

You dummies keep voting for this stuff..

Keep voting demoncrap durrr.

Va is a lost cause.. done, get over it (until the EQ washes it away)

Did I miss any?

I live in commiefornia, been a member here a long time... so I'm a bit of a expert in this area.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:10:10 PM EDT
Criminalizes protesting while carrying a firearm
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:10:39 PM EDT
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This is gonna get bad.

For them.
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I literally have a woman in my county now taking names off our organized FB rally. She plans to report us all, me first on Jan 1 for possesion of an assault weapon.

God have COC mercy on my thoughts.... This fucking cunt.

And we are a rural county about to go 2A sanc
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:11:34 PM EDT
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Yea... WTF
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:11:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, not like they would ever EVER use that law against ANTIFA.
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Came here to ponder about equal enforcement of the law. I'm sure that ANTIFA will get prosecuted 1:1 with conservative groups.

Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:12:26 PM EDT
Holy fuck, that is bad...
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:12:43 PM EDT
Nothing like going all in.  
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:13:17 PM EDT
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So much for the freedom of assembly.
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Why not pass a law shreds both the first and second amendments at the same time.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:13:54 PM EDT
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Yup. They will only keep chipping away until it’s all gone. Wonder what the inevitable ‘compromise’ will be
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:14:28 PM EDT
For fucks sake.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:15:22 PM EDT
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
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1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
Wasn’t the 2nd written so we could “civilly disobey” and shoot them in the face?

I’m glad the British didn’t have this law or the revolution wouldn’t have happened!
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:15:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:15:27 PM EDT
Wow...This is complete bullshit.

They'll do this state by state.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:16:03 PM EDT
lol, have they been reading the threads here?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:16:21 PM EDT
You all know what to do.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:16:36 PM EDT
That would effectively outlaw every little kids' karate class as written.

Teaching techniques that could injure.

And also every rape prevention self defense class too
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:17:08 PM EDT
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I literally have a woman in my county now taking names off our organized FB rally. She plans to report us all, me first on Jan 1 for possesion of an assault weapon.

God have COC mercy on my thoughts.... This fucking cunt.

And we are a rural county about to go 2A sanc
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How do you know this? She was dumb enough to publically say so?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:18:09 PM EDT
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Yup. They will only keep chipping away until it’s all gone. Wonder what the inevitable ‘compromise’ will be
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There's only one real way to stop this.
Yup. They will only keep chipping away until it’s all gone. Wonder what the inevitable ‘compromise’ will be
Doesn't look like they are chipping, pretty much driving a bulldozer through all the things.

VA also planning on banning straws, offering free needles and allowing people to poop wherever?

From a nominally free state to out-tarding the worst parts of NY, NJ and CA in less then 1 years time.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:18:17 PM EDT
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