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Quoted: Quoted: Oh just quit. If nobody has taken action by this point nobody ever will. Jesus these neverending line in the sand posts piss me the fuck off. We're well past the point we said we'd "do something" not that long ago. Look at the bright side, at least all those preps won't go to waste. |
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Quoted: A violent overthrow of the government? What a fucking clown. View Quote Yes, it was a violent overthrow of the government. That's why all those gun owners left their guns at home. And instead of being violent, they walked through a building. Almost like it was a protest or something, but it wasn't even fiery, yet mostly peaceful. |
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It is likely grounds to appeal a sentence for misdemeanor trespassing when the judge gives a heavier sentence based on something you weren't even charged with.
That judge is a disgrace. |
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Their are two tiers of the “justice” system in this country.
One for violent criminals and leftists and one for the rest of us. |
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Quoted: and yet we are expected to watch antifa burn cities to the ground. shits going to boil over very soon if this pace keeps up View Quote See, that's different because Antifa didn't make Congress think that they might actually get held responsible for their shit. People that get scared tend to respond by getting angry at the person who scared then. |
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Quoted: "guilty to unlawful parading and picketing inside the Capitol building on Jan. 6 a misdemeanor offense." "There have to be consequences for participating in an attempted violent overthrow of the government, beyond sitting at home," Chutkan said at one of the hearings. Um, how do these two things go together? View Quote Our takeaway from this should be that violent overthrow of the government is not that big a deal. |
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Quoted: I could easily do 45 days in jail. Not a problem. If this is the bar being set for "violent attempted overthrow", I say set the bar. View Quote They'll keep you locked up for months prior to trial though, until you plead out. Completely disgusting to suggest that someone is too dangerous to be allowed bail while the prosecution is only asking for a sentence of 30days. It's punitive incarceration to coerce then into taking a plea. |
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Quoted: A federal judge in Washington has repeatedly sentenced people who stormed the U.S. Capitol to more prison time than prosecutors sought, saying that even people who were not violent should face consequences for joining the unprecedented assault. In the past week, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has imposed sentences ranging from 14 to 45 days on four people who pleaded guilty to unlawful parading and picketing inside the Capitol building on Jan. 6 a misdemeanor offense. "There have to be consequences for participating in an attempted violent overthrow of the government, beyond sitting at home," Chutkan said at one of the hearings. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/there-have-be-consequences-judge-ups-sentences-us-capitol-rioters-2021-10-13/?utm_source=reddit.com Yep Obama Judge and even is married to another Obama Judge View Quote I think if all the guys that fought in World War One and World War Two got to see what their sacrifice brought they would have happily fought for the other side. How the fuck do we have immigrant federal judges? |
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Judge needs to be removed. But I’m guessing they love her there.
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Quoted: Has it been proven, in any of these individual cases, that ANYONE's intention on that day was to "overthrow the government"? Seems to me, people being charged with trespassing and the like doesn't infer what this 'judge' is trying to. Sorry, you don't get to sentence someone based on what you think their motivation was with no evidence thereof. View Quote Apparently she does. |
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Quoted: and yet we are expected to watch antifa burn cities to the ground. shits going to boil over very soon if this pace keeps up View Quote Shit should have boiled over long ago. I have little faith that it will, and much like many others here, I have a family and am not willing to go first. |
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Law no longer matters. Facts no longer matter. Only THEIR truth matters, and that can change swiftly depending on the needs of the state at any given time.
Unscrupulous judges and prosecutors are no longer independent, and many are busily applying critical legal studies in everyday practice. Critical theory is taught in the legal world too. https://cyber.harvard.edu/bridge/CriticalTheory/critical2.htm |
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So, if they just tried to burn down the Capitol, there would be no punishment. But if you legitimately protest tyranny, you are to be treated like a hardened criminal.
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All of these people believe the rioters/protesters would have injured them if possible. And they have the power to do something about it.
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well. I have some non-CoC compliant things to say about the DIShonorable Judge Tanya Chutkan. This double standard justice system is going to blow up in all of our faces.
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Foreign born, democrat activist, Obama appointed judge.
sure are a lot of those around. |
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She should answer why not a single person was charged with the crimes she used as an example~
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Harsh words and sentences for an unarmed faux insurrection are meant to provoke patriots to undertake a real insurrection, it's bait .
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There are two diametrically opposed planes of existence right now. It's hard for me to imagine living life on the other side. |
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Quoted: The lesson here seems to be "make it count next time. " View Quote It looked to me like the crowd was made up of a whole s*** ton of people who had showed up for a raucous protest about the election. And a smaller percentage of people who showed up just to break stuff regardless of the reason, while using the protesters as cover. It's too late now, but somebody should have sort of taken charge and removed troublemakers by any means necessary. |
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Quoted: Harsh words and sentences for an unarmed faux insurrection are meant to provoke patriots to undertake a real insurrection, it's bait . View Quote maybe. counterpoint: when peaceful protest is made impossible, violent protest becomes inevitable. Either way, whether it's bait or not, the likely outcome is the same. |
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Quoted: Harsh words and sentences for an unarmed faux insurrection are meant to provoke patriots to undertake a real insurrection, it's bait . View Quote I think it's more likely it's meant to scare people on the right into compliance. But hopefully people are paying attention and learning lessons from this. There's lots of different lessons to be learned. |
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Tyranny. Antifa commits violence gets free pass, conservatives go to a rally, take pics, go on tour get a year in prison for “ tresspassing “ on permanent terrorist watch list.
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Quoted: Law no longer matters. Facts no longer matter. Only THEIR truth matters, and that can change swiftly depending on the needs of the state at any given time. Unscrupulous judges and prosecutors are no longer independent, and many are busily applying critical legal studies in everyday practice. Critical theory is taught in the legal world too. https://cyber.harvard.edu/bridge/CriticalTheory/critical2.htm View Quote This. Living in post-rule of law America. TC |
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Quoted: So, if they just tried to burn down the Capitol, there would be no punishment. But if you legitimately protest tyranny, you are to be treated like a hardened criminal. View Quote Makes perfect sense. We’re pissed they’re destroying our way of life. They get pissed when someone threatens THEIR way of life. TC |
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Quoted: How many CIs are going to jail...? View Quote That's the wonderful part about being shuffled around the prison system. There are so many facilities that you won't notice if someone got sent somewhere else, and then given back his government travel card, creds, and pistol in the parking lot. Kharn |
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The way it all appears to me is: If you gather or protest for a conservative viewpoint, the system will find a way to squash you and make it so other conservatives become afraid to share their viewpoint. If you post on social media a conservative viewpoint, they will also suspend/ban/flag you. They want conservatives to shut up, and not get in their way. Those that do will be made into an example. They do not care if the conservative did anything wrong, they will find something to pin on them and make them suffer. They don't care if they break laws to punish the conservative, as the system will not punish anyone violating conservative's rights. Note: conservative does not mean republican. View Quote |
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"Do you peasants get the message yet? Don't you dare challenge the legitimacy of the Empire."
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“Violent overthrow” yet their sentence carries 15-45 days? GTFO of here you fucking clown. Fucker should be disbarred
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