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I just posted this in the Bigelow thread.   I'm basically in the same school of thought as him.  This stuff is real, but unexplained.  It's snot BS/Fake/hallucinations/etc.   He broke it down into Extrra-Terrestrial (not man of Earth as we know it), or Spiritual/Energy beings (Different planes, angels/demons)

Robert Bigelow Opens up about AAWSAP, the Tic Tac incident, weird events on Skinwalker Ranch, the connection to consciousness

(Videos half way down for his interview, not on YouTube, hosted at this info site instead), longest is 15 minutes regarding the Tic Tacs)  He worked with Luis Elizondo gathering all the information for that program.

The FLIR video is degraded a bit, the Azimuth/Range and aircraft heading pips are not there, along with distortion of the few markers that are in the margins yet.  I suppose I'm comparing the FLIR of the F18 to look like FLIR of the Apache helicopter for data detail, I'd think heading of aircraft and azimuth of camera would be there for sure since you can't tell what is going on without it, as well as range to target, the angular difference and rate of change of those angles would end a lot of the confusion regarding what is being seen.

Supposedly there's a few longer versions out here with I'd imagine more data bits that wasn't down-sampled to 240 then back up to 480p to smear out all the details or whatever they did to it to blur what is there and erase the other bits that is Normally seen from Helicopter FLIR displays.  I've never really watched what I knew was an F-18 FLIR but the Older GW II/I FLIR for air/ground  Guidance into buildings did have that information on it. Just one of the more odd things a bout it.  

This "Tic Tac" is also the event where only the data from a ship furthest from it (with the oldest radar gear) data was shown, and even then it was already collated and shown reduced to the paths and altitude with ~10 second updates, calculated in the thousands of g s with no human made thing we know of able to go over estimated ~30 g highest possible maximum turns for air-air missiles turns without ripping flight surfaces off or other damage.

The other interview up top said the "Tic Tac Videos" are "it's the most boring 60 seconds" of the encounter shown as well.  There's 10 minutes or more of footage and they released the most non-interesting clip of video from the end it and as said, of a much higher quality with more info.  There is also corroborating radar data from newer radar that is said to match the tracks shown but no specifics such s update rates or ranges are mentioned.   The full details and FLIR video are classified to protect the equipment  capabilities that recorded/tracked rather than the Tic  Tac being something they're wanting to keep absolute secret.


--ETA: not the thread I thought I was in.  This thread has a very long interview (no extra multimedia/diagrams/etc) where some of these details are covered that I summarize above, the video doesn't have much more than that, just narration from a physicist who's aware of what else there is to see but has no exact information on it.  That physicist (Kevin Knuth) is on the UAP science advisory board and he's the source of why so much is classified regarding that encounter even now that it is "released".

It was also stated that the estimated Temperature of the Tic Tac was -60°F, or Very Very Cold for moving like that.

Luis Elizondo (one of the authors of the paper) said in an interview that there won't be much of anything new for people that have actively been following the UFO release news.  He likened it to Galileo initially publishing the earth is round and Not the center of Everything.

Prior that it was just known that Earth was the center of everything and the "celestial sphere" rotated around it.  He was then treated much like somebody approving Trump today (or not being vaccinated, or...).  Total slaughter character assassination move with what they had back then (lots of power in religion on same page).  He eventually proved it to the Church and it was announced as correct.

What we are seeing with this report coming out soon is the data equivalent of Galileo's "crazy theory" being announced as correct without going into all the details and math, but that he was in the end correct.  The gnashing of teeth in the meantime is what we are seeing now as he saw then.  Nothing was really added to the celestial sphere other than center of orbits that "everybody knew" and all he was doing is a proposal of shifting the center and things connected.  

This UAP report is going to do that sort of intro:  add legitimate status to the UFO Phenomenon which needs much more research to get published then chopped down to little parts so the average person level of understanding.  They've had only 180 days to break down in this paper a very solid encounter they have a lot of data for and are going to try  and explain that it was not balloon, mass hysteria, sun glinting on lens, swamp gas, or any of the other things anomalies are currently labeled.

Back then it was The Church deciding what reality was and what it wasn't and wouldn't let people believe otherwise.   Today it's the entire media and tech complex controlling what is real and what is "Fake News" to the same ends. Ecc 1:9

Expect some higher quality images and some more documents, but not a lot more.  To get more physicists and other scientists need to study the issue then publish papers on it (publish or perish).  They will not currently waste their reputation on a "theoretical reality" where they do not have access to all the data that exists.   Once congress releases the report, they need to create a group with funding so the people who can say 100% for sure one way or another on several points will be published if there is a monetary gain as well as no longer being shunned for writing papers on "fringe topics" or "nonsense".   VERY Political at the doc level, they keep each other in line through both character assassination as well as being omitted from various groups due to a 'faux pas'.  

Once congress and the report says "These are real, here's data to show one of many incidents" is out, that political barrier is greatly reduced(nearly eliminated with funding attached) and there's a whole new field to get published in so expect a lot of papers once academia accepts the premise of the report, which is "UAPs re Not Nothing", but we don't know exactly what they are.

What I gleaned is we'll see some higher resolution and longer encounter videos, some collated radar track data, and state they do not know what it is and there are many other incidents essentially.  There will not be enough to silence all of the skeptics, but enough to make the hardcore ones re-think things.  So expect a dribble rather than the meaning of life and either aliens, dimensions, or other races among us or whatever I think may be will be hinted at as options.  That is the biggest hurdle right now - "it's BS/Nothing" - Knock down that wall and a whole new world opens up for theories in scientific journals  instead of dark corners of the net since people aren't throwing away their academic lives for a personal interest in a professional setting..