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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:01:28 PM EDT
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Prank call. They cut the video before the caller called them retards and hung up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Prank call. They cut the video before the caller called them retards and hung up. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:02:24 PM EDT
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Just a coincidence. Nothing to see beyond the news reader report. Move along....and pickup that can, citizen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Alittle too cut and dried... almost like a false flag or something... Gee, why do these events keep playing into their exact taking points to push for removing the single roadblock to a political revolution to gain absolute control and power. Certainly can't all be coincidences. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:03:08 PM EDT
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We should ban Murder.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:04:30 PM EDT
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The media is responsible for saturating young American minds with hate-fueled propaganda.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:05:07 PM EDT
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I'm just tuning into all this crap. I'm on my way to a family dinner where I will be surrounded by liberals. Can anyone give a concise breakdown of what's going on who the shooter was etc so I can respond to the guns or evil attack that I am facing.
And prayers for the families. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:05:09 PM EDT
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For anyone else who wants to swing their purse at others in this thread, I ask you to stop and consider what you are doing before you write it. Especially if you just showed up on ARFCOM and want to stir the pot.
We are all affected by this but throwing purses at each other here is NOT helping matters. Just pray to your creator for their souls and imagine if this affected your immediate family. We have already discussed ad nauseam, keep your powder dry because they (fill in the blank which group “they” are) are coming for us. Unite. I swear, unite for the victims and against the enemies of liberty. We are surrounded but outnumber them. Damned jibs get in the way of riots huh. 
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:05:11 PM EDT
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If we're to assume the manifesto is factual, then the shooter had a clear political motive.
By definition, he is a terrorist. Haven't we in nearly two decades finally learned from 9/11 that the best way to fight terrorism isn't to crack down on the rights of everyone who isn't a terrorist, but instead identify the ideology responsible for terrorism and address the ideology and its recruits and proponents? Though I doubt the people wanting to ban guns watched the Nice truck attack aftermath videos... which killed 86 and injured 434, considerably higher tolls than have been accomplished by any gun-based murderers (not employed by governments). |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:06:21 PM EDT
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So WTF is going on with this shooting?
I've been really busy all day and haven't been keeping up. Is ANTIFA going to be in El Paso or something? Is that related to the shooting? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:06:29 PM EDT
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We should ban Murder. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:06:43 PM EDT
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If we're to assume the manifesto is factual, then the shooter had a clear political motive. By definition, he is a terrorist. Haven't we in nearly two decades finally learned from 9/11 that the best way to fight terrorism isn't to crack down on the rights of everyone who isn't a terrorist, but instead identify the ideology responsible for terrorism and address the ideology and its recruits and proponents? Though I doubt the people wanting to ban guns watched the Nice truck attack aftermath videos... which killed 86 and injured 434, considerably higher tolls than have been accomplished by any gun-based murderers (not employed by governments). |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:07:02 PM EDT
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The media is responsible for saturating young American minds with hate-fueled propaganda. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:07:16 PM EDT
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders?
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:07:24 PM EDT
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The media is responsible for saturating young American minds with hate-fueled propaganda. Nutty people are exposed to a lot more doom and gloom due to modern media - there is a lot less to worry about now than 500 years ago. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:07:53 PM EDT
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:08:21 PM EDT
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Think about how much higher the stakes are now with the presidential election, now EO's can ban guns..... great
 
Great time for the NRA to implode. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:09:06 PM EDT
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Why would he drive 600 miles to attack a Wal-Mart?
Why El-Paso? Did he target a specific demographic in Wal-Mart? Who were his friends and associates? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:09:21 PM EDT
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I think truth is that with every one of these attacks, the American public becomes more and more desensitized to it. They're already emersed in a society of violence and gore. Attack after attack, the chances of a ban diminish. IMO, that is.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:09:30 PM EDT
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My first thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:10:12 PM EDT
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The think truth is that with every one of these attacks, the American public becomes more and more desensitized to it. They're already emersed in a society of violence and gore. Attack after attack, the chances of a ban diminish. IMO, that is. 
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:10:30 PM EDT
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Read his LinkedIn, it’s glaringly obvious what a low-effort and low-quality person he was. That had to bleed into other parts of his life. He was (probably rightfully) passed over and ignored his whole life. For people like this, a mass shooting is a chance for that to reverse, now millions will know his name and read his manifesto. The higher the kill count, the more notoriety they get. The vulture news cycle will ensure that. “Getting back” at those a society that blew him off is just icing on the cake for them.
You can attack the methods that mass shooters use all you want. But unless you attack the motivation that drives the behavior, they’ll just find another method to achieve their goal. Where there’s a will there’s a way. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:10:46 PM EDT
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I'm not giving up my guns. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go spend about 5 minutes on FB and Twitter like I just did. Go look at Ted Cruz’s last FB post specifically. Quote HistoryQuoted: Go spend about 5 minutes on FB and Twitter like I just did. Go look at Ted Cruz’s last FB post specifically. This is Ted Cruz's statement: My heart is with everyone in El Paso struck by this unspeakable evil. Heidi and I are praying for the victims and their families and grateful for the first responders, local authorities, and law enforcement officers working tirelessly to bring the perpetrator of this depraved act to justice and keep the entire community safe. There are millions of people in Texas and across the country standing behind you. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:11:02 PM EDT
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But did he go to the Cielo vista mall? Or was there just panic there because of next door? I haven't seen or heard anything about injuries over there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Cielo Vista Mall has gunbuster "no weapons allowed" signs and security will ask you to leave if you open carry, so basically concealed is allowed. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:11:03 PM EDT
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It's so bizarre that anyone just gathering an over all synapsis of the situation from the aftermath it's guns are bad and need to be banned. Gee, why do these events keep playing into their exact taking points to push for removing the single roadblock to a political revolution to gain absolute control and power. Certainly can't all be coincidences. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Alittle too cut and dried... almost like a false flag or something... Gee, why do these events keep playing into their exact taking points to push for removing the single roadblock to a political revolution to gain absolute control and power. Certainly can't all be coincidences. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:11:09 PM EDT
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Why would he drive 600 miles to attack a Wal-Mart? Why El-Paso? Did he target a specific demographic in Wal-Mart? Who were his friends and associates? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:11:11 PM EDT
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It’s El Paso which is as much Mexico as it is Texas
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:12:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:12:38 PM EDT
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I'm not giving up my guns. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's so bizarre that anyone just gathering an over all synapsis of the situation from the aftermath it's guns are bad and need to be banned. Gee, why do these events keep playing into their exact taking points to push for removing the single roadblock to a political revolution to gain absolute control and power. Certainly can't all be coincidences. But this is. I'm sure all the stops will be pulled to milk this horrific event for everything they can get. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:12:54 PM EDT
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:13:07 PM EDT
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It’s El Paso which is as much Mexico as it is Texas |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:13:09 PM EDT
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Do not know how many Hispanics have a cc permit...
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:13:15 PM EDT
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Someone pointed out earlier in the thread very few Texans actually have a CCW, one of the lowest in the south. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:13:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the manifesto is legit, the perp is worried about mexicans AND robots taking his job. Nutty people are exposed to a lot more doom and gloom due to modern media - there is a lot less to worry about now than 500 years ago. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:14:12 PM EDT
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There is no way a 21 year old grocery bagger with no college wrote that. My opinion Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:15:24 PM EDT
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You should take your own advice. This is Ted Cruz's statement: How is this some dire omen of an impending AWB? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Go spend about 5 minutes on FB and Twitter like I just did. Go look at Ted Cruz’s last FB post specifically. This is Ted Cruz's statement: My heart is with everyone in El Paso struck by this unspeakable evil. Heidi and I are praying for the victims and their families and grateful for the first responders, local authorities, and law enforcement officers working tirelessly to bring the perpetrator of this depraved act to justice and keep the entire community safe. There are millions of people in Texas and across the country standing behind you. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:15:42 PM EDT
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Read his LinkedIn, it’s glaringly obvious what a low-effort and low-quality person he was. That had to bleed into other parts of his life. He was (probably rightfully) passed over and ignored his whole life. For people like this, a mass shooting is a chance for that to reverse, now millions will know his name and read his manifesto. The higher the kill count, the more notoriety they get. The vulture news cycle will ensure that. “Getting back” at those a society that blew him off is just icing on the cake for them. You can attack the methods that mass shooters use all you want. But unless you attack the motivation that drives the behavior, they’ll just find another method to achieve their goal. Where there’s a will there’s a way. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:15:48 PM EDT
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Read his LinkedIn, it's glaringly obvious what a low-effort and low-quality person he was. That had to bleed into other parts of his life. He was (probably rightfully) passed over and ignored his whole life. For people like this, a mass shooting is a chance for that to reverse, now millions will know his name and read his manifesto. The higher the kill count, the more notoriety they get. The vulture news cycle will ensure that. "Getting back" at those a society that blew him off is just icing on the cake for them. You can attack the methods that mass shooters use all you want. But unless you attack the motivation that drives the behavior, they'll just find another method to achieve their goal. Where there's a will there's a way. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:16:55 PM EDT
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:17:08 PM EDT
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This is why I shouldnt stay off of GD for a day, next time I check on it, there's a fucking shooting...
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:17:17 PM EDT
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Is there an update so I do not have to sift 37 pages ?
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:17:30 PM EDT
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Someone pointed out earlier in the thread very few Texans actually have a CCW, one of the lowest in the south. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fuck, it's Texas, where were all of the CCW holders? TX has a CHL percentage of 3.6 (according to a quick search). Assuming 1000 people there and all CHL holders carrying, you'd have 36 people who could be carrying. Assuming 900 of the people there are from Juarez and 100 are from the US, you'd have 3 or 4. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always see this exact same statement in every mass shooting/violence thread....and I never get a response back when I address it. If it's the "lack of God" that creates violence, then why are some of the safest regions/countries in the world have the highest rates of non-religious/atheists population? Where is the rampant violence in Japan, Czech Republic, Scandinavian countries, etc? They all have the highest population of non-religious/atheists yet there also some of the safest places to live and constantly rank high on every "Quality of Life/Happiness" scale. Wouldn't you expect those areas to just be literal Sodom and Gamorah since without God, they supposedly have zero morals and values? Or could it be that it's more about the actual culture and has absolutely nothing to do with organized religions? Arizona is far safer than Chicago, a single city. Why doesn't this shit happen here? Because we have open and concealed carry and while Texas talks a big game, fuckers like this would be dead in moments in AZ. Pretty religious as well. And Japan is not an atheist country, they don't believe, on average, in the same God we do. As for being a peaceful country, look at WWII, and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity what ever ya call it they were trying to pull off. We nuked their asses and put an end to that shit. But they still have knife attacks, even fuckers running amok with samurai swords, and they sell young girls used panties in vending machines. I'd say they are just as fucked up as a Country as anyone else, cause you sure as shit won't see that here. Teenage girls getting plowed by an Octopus, yeah, real peaceful and pleasant folks aint they. Look at the amount of rapes and open groping of women on public transportation. Try that shit here and you get the fuck beaten out of you. Otherwise, your post is spot on there pal. Spot on. You don't need religion to have a moral compass. Just so tired of seeing this same post over and over again. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:18:23 PM EDT
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Think about how much higher the stakes are now with the presidential election, now EO's can ban guns..... great
Great time for the NRA to implode. Nothing has changed with regard to "the stakes." There is a sizable (and possibly growing) percentage of Americans who would like to see guns banned. Some want "some" guns banned. Some (albeit fewer) want "all" guns banned. That is not a new thing. Nothing that happened today in Texas changes that. The liberal media exploits every such tragedy that comes along to spread anti-gun propaganda. That is not a new thing. Nothing that happened today in Texas changes that. Every election going forward is going to have consequences, and yes, we COULD witness the dismantling of the Second Amendment if we lose too many political battles. That is not a new thing. Everyone on this website should understand what this equation looks like, and HAS looked like for a long time now. It is important for us not to act like Chicken Little every time something like this happens. These things are GOING to happen, given that there will always be lunatics and evil men in the world. Being driven and controlled by emotional responses is the stock in trade of our political enemies. Our response to these things needs to be organized, coordinated, and coldly calculated. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:18:29 PM EDT
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Biden calling for more gun control.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:19:00 PM EDT
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What manifesto are you guys talking about? this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/222783/1564857127316_jpg-1041106.JPG @StevenH here is a better link |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:19:30 PM EDT
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Can someone please put a link to a non-blurry copy of the manifest in the OP?
My eyes are bad but ffs I don’t think anyone can read that |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:19:36 PM EDT
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Biden calling for more gun control. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:19:53 PM EDT
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Fellow Texans, get ready for a fight. We must stop all efforts to change our gun laws.
 Attached FileGovernor Abbott won’t buckle to this bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 8:20:21 PM EDT
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Not very many of the haughty gun toting stereotype type 'Murican Texan in that zone from the looks of it.
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