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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:52:28 AM EDT
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In Okinawa I had one of my Marines come to me about his stinky roommate. This guy would sling his sweaty PT gear into his walllocker on top of the rest of his stinky laundry, then just pull his cammies on without showering. This would go on day after day. The guy was a funk machine, but not in a good, James Brown sort of way. I sent the roommate to the E club and went to see this young lad. I spent most of an evening, about five or six hours, having this kid put every stitch of fabric he owned except the curtains on the window in six washing machines, then he went into the shower. I stood in his head and saw to it that he showered by the numbers:
It went on like that for about 45 minutes. Everytime he tried to speak I told him to shut up and keep scrubbing. As soon as the shower was done to my standards, I got him out, told him to dry off and wrap the towel around him, and we went down to the laundry room and put his clean wet clothes into the dryers. Then back to the shower again. When that was done, back to the laundry room for all his clean dry laundry. I watched him fold everything and stack it on his rack, then we got some bleach and a bucket and scrub brush out of the gear locker and I supervised him cleaning out his walllocker. Then he put everything away. I explained to him that the next step was going to be a GI shower with toilet brushes and comet cleanser under a hose out behind the barracks. He seemed to learn and at least washed his clothes and nasty ass regularly enough not to need a repeat performance. His roommate was grateful. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:53:25 AM EDT
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I used to work as a laborer at a landfill. My work clothes went immediately into the wash when I came home and I hit the shower. I never smelled like landfill except at work. There really is no excuse to stink. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:55:07 AM EDT
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ok arfcomm here is your chance.
dingle berry just called me. He went home took a shower and changed clothes and wants another chance. <left on my voice mail> my inclination is tell him to go pound sand. What say YE! this hippies fate rests in your hands! <i don't hire him or have to work with him so i really don't care> mike |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:55:50 AM EDT
[#4]
Fixed for you. 
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:56:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:57:22 AM EDT
[#6]
he screwed the pooch, see my post below... |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:59:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:01:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Another chance? Hmmm....
MAYBE, but he did mutter something about "discrimination" when you pointed out the obvious. If this isn't an indication of how he will handle conflict, I don't know what is. He blew it. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:02:42 AM EDT
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Is he going to work in a dept that you don't like?? If so hire him!! Other wise tell him to pound sand!
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:02:44 AM EDT
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I would NOT give him another chance. He has shown himself to be a slovenly and undisciplined person (in addition to being stupid) - the fact that he is willing to PRETEND not to be for an interview doesn't change his basic disposition. Since I would not want a person like that working for my organization, I would not interview him. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:04:21 AM EDT
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good point SM. I forgot about that. bad move on his part. revised my vote to match Jarhead22's |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:04:31 AM EDT
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Sounds desperate. How can he come back and look you in the eye? Does he have no shame? I used to do IT work in college. It requires a certain attention to detail because you can easily nuke a software package (if doing application IT) or fry a motherboard (if doing hardware IT). If it did not occur to him to wash up, why would you think that he'd remember to do ground himself before jamming his hands inside a machine (for example)? It shows a terrible mindset. Count yourself lucky for noticing this fault up front and not after he cost the company money. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:04:42 AM EDT
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i am considering it just to watch this guy squirm a bit. i'd really have ZERO interest in reccomending him for a full interview with management.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:05:04 AM EDT
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My name is PAEBR332, and I endorse this message. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:16:41 AM EDT
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Young guy you said right?
After teaching High school for 7 years I've learned how poorly our parents are prepping their kids for real life. I give the kid full marks for having the balls to man up admit his mistake and try to address the issue. I want people working for me that admit they fuck up and fix it. Rather than the BS artists that try and CYA or blame in on somebody else. Give the man a second chance. Sometimes people just need the wake up call to get on the right path. But from the other posts to your question I'd say I'm a softy. I do remember when I was given a second chance years ago. Not even close to the same issue but I learned more that day than any day before that in my life. Georgia. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:17:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Tell him to feel free to reapply in 180 days. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:22:41 AM EDT
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No. Do not call him back. Giving him a chance after such a massive fuck up simply teaches him that it is ok to screw up like that and that your company isn't serious about things and that they sky is the limit for bad behavior. Don't teach him that. This ain't beanbag. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:24:24 AM EDT
[#18]
call him back for interveiw, then dont hire him. olololololololol
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:25:16 AM EDT
[#19]
This isn't your future SIL is it?
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:26:57 AM EDT
[#20]
I gotta say no. Anyone stupid enough to claim discrimination based on smell is too stupid to work for me. YMMV.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:28:35 AM EDT
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In a company I was in we had this dude who was just heaving. Had a sour milk/Nacho Cheese Dorito smell coming off of him. In Iraq, this asshat's roommates would take photos of his towel and shower stuff, in the same spot for days. Anyway, what a nasty fucker.
TBS, good on you for kicking that nasty prick out of your office. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:30:18 AM EDT
[#22]
Nice job.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:31:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Death by Booga Booga! |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:36:07 AM EDT
[#24]
if it was this title would read...... best way to dispose of a body
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:44:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Don't jerk him around just for fun. He knows he screwed up, no need to rub his face in it. Message sent, message received. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:45:25 AM EDT
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I know a lot of other people said "NO"... but you know what, it took balls to do that, so I say bring him back in. Then watch him squirm. 
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:47:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Signs, sings, everywhere a sign! Do this, don't do that. Can't you read the sings? |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:48:46 AM EDT
[#28]
normally i'd agree but after his "victim" discrimination tirade i really don't care. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:50:05 AM EDT
[#29]
Only the married women wear dots. And even that, not all clans do. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:51:24 AM EDT
[#30]
Don't waste your time - he obviously didn't take it seriously enough the first time around. The lack of professionalism is unacceptable, plain and simple. And as if that wasn't enough, he then tries blaming you for his laziness by throwing accusations of "discrimination" around.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:02:54 AM EDT
[#31]
You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.
I wouldn't hire him, nor would I allow him back for a second interview. If he couldn't muster the respect for the first interview, where it would have been genuine, then fuck him in the eye with a sharp stick. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:11:47 AM EDT
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Alot of times the co used to ask me to take a "ride along" with me on my day these are prospective new employees who want to find out what our day to day goes like.Not any more. One or two have smelled so bad I wouldnt let them in the van. one stole $300.00 in cash from my days invoices and was gone before I caught the missing cash
one "borrowed" $20 bucks as he had been unemployed for a while and was taking the job --he did--worked two days, stole from a customer and quit and I never saw the $20 of course. A few tried to get in with lit ciggarette--WRONG-- I give em a few mins to finish a cig before leaving out in the am and after each job or stop but when I am ready to go--put it out and get in. Some of these whack jobs I cant believe they hire and put out on the street but they need the bodies I guess. I get a written warning for a spot CINTAS failed to get out of a work shirt. Cleatus shows up late for the interview with six green stubbs for teeth an he's thier boy! |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:18:45 AM EDT
[#33]
If you had to tell the applicant to clean up and then he got belligerent, there is absolutely no WAY that I would grant his request for a second chance.
I guarantee that if you hired him, he'd be unclean and stinky more days than he was clean, because personal grooming habits are just that...HABITS. If he doesn't have them NOW, he won't have them after he gets hired. There are qualified applicants out there who take baths every day and have clean clothing. I'm sure you will be able to find one soon, so let Mr. Stinky go search for other jobs. Maybe what you said to him might help him to get the idea about cleaning up and maybe it'll help him to find another job, but I would recommend against YOU hiring him. CJ |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:22:55 AM EDT
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I've found that I don't go through anti-perspirant/deodorant nearly as fast when my armpit hair is trimmed short. It takes less and it's more effective, in my experience. I thought it was "gay" too, but my wife has made me a believer too. If a person showers/bathes daily and uses anti-persirant/deodorant, they really shouldn't have a problem with BO. I used to be a concrete construction laborer and I'd end the day covered in form oil and sweat. As long as I showered daily and wore freshly-washed work clothes every day, I didn't have any problem with BO. I also grew up on a ranch, but that's a different story; there's just no way to avoid coming home from that job smelling like cow $#!&. As for letting the guy come back for a second chance, I say go for it. That actually took some humility and respect to take your criticism and fix what you said was wrong. It shows that he's willing to admit he's wrong, accept constructive criticism, and not give up at the first sign of rejection. Those aren't bad qualities to have in an employee. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:45:22 AM EDT
[#35]
well i got busy and he called back. i told him i was not interested. part of me would have loved to hear the "excuse" for his first impression.
by the waay i had ZERO intent of giving him a reccomendation even IF a second meeting had gone well. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:49:46 AM EDT
[#36]
Ya know I would say bring the kid back in, let him interview, DO NOT hire him, BUT Explain why, Because he showed you in the first interview attempt what he is made of "First Impression" and that is the lesson he needs, I agree that many kids these days tend to raise themselves, My parents would never have allowed me to leave the house looking like that or smelling like that! But he needs to understand the lesson....
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:59:32 AM EDT
[#37]
What he said. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:31:45 AM EDT
[#38]
sadly the lingering stench of his first impression is still here. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:32:09 AM EDT
[#39]
I might have considered it if he got his shit together immediately and without complaint the first time you mentioned it. But he goes on a tirade about how he's a victim being discriminated against? No thanks, he's outta there.
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:37:27 AM EDT
[#40]
Febreeze, baby. Or Fire...you choose! |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:47:00 AM EDT
[#41]
hippies...
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:51:23 AM EDT
[#42]
I'm gonna have to agree and say negative on the second chance. If any applicant does not take the time or put forth the effort when they know they have time to prepare for an interview, what does that say about their work habits or ethics. It would be one thing if it was a stain on the shirt caused by a spilled drink a few minutes prior to the interview (shit happens).
Along with what others have stated, I too, have worked construction and jobs where sweat is a common occurance. Regualar bathing takes care of it in my experience. I usually cut those guys a break as I have done it as well. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 12:04:01 PM EDT
[#43]
oh man have i got some ride along stories. i had to babysit one tech that wasn't getting his work done. guy was a loon. would use a public restroom. he carried a urinal under his car seat. as were are stopped a traffic light he whipped it out and took a whiz right in front of me. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 12:08:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Hey man I couldn't hold it! |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:04:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Man, you are tough. Most people just say "Thanks for your interest. We are interviewing other candidates also. We'll contact you if we are interested." to avoid any kind of lawsuit. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:49:14 PM EDT
[#46]
why tiptoe around the truth. maybe he will learn from it. I am not management and am not responsible for the end result of his employement or lack therof. I am usually just asked to meet with them before a serious interview is scheduled to determine their skill set or lack therof, before management makes them an offer. if i say no and gove management my reason it's up them to continue to persue him or not. One of the joys of not having mangement responsibility. My yes or no is only one of the prescreen considerations. not to mention it's kinda hard to tell him i am loooking at other candidates when i barely got his name before asking him to leave. i have a VERY low bullshit tolerance. this kid obviously didn't give a damn about his appearance and i have to believe he wouldn't give a damn about the appearence he gave our customers. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:51:04 PM EDT
[#47]
How much does the job pay?
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:57:38 PM EDT
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I have to put some kind of gel in my hair otherwise it looks like crap. Some people have hair that looks good when they get out of the shower, I'm not one of them :) I do keep it short and tidy and get it cut either the day of or day before interviews. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:58:25 PM EDT
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not sure exactly what they were going to offer him as thats above my paygrade. most of those guys start around 30 or so and go up from there. i am guessing he likely makes as much or more than he would with us. <if he's actually working> |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 2:02:06 PM EDT
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Sign, sign, Everywhere a Sign... |
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