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Posted: 7/25/2009 9:46:56 PM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 9:55:58 PM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent?  Yeah she does
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:17:13 PM EDT
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20 bucks says the daughter is an overweight white girl
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:25:22 PM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? No one here can answer that... Legally? No, not in this country. But certain states in Mexico think 12 year olds do! 
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:34:39 PM EDT
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 That's the bike he chose to escape on?!?!
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:45:23 PM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? Freshman in high school? Yes, she should have the capacity to make a decision. However, girls that young are more prone to fall for the BS guys say, but I would expect her mother to have prepared her for that in junior high. |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:48:34 PM EDT
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...A 23 year old sexual predator names Jose Torres was having sex with his 14 year old daughter.... So, was he raping her against or according to her will?  ( I can't find the story link on the New Orleans radio station's website )
~ That's all the info I have. I heard it on the radio and decided to check the site for the pic. There is some info from a Florida news website also. I checked with a mod before posting but another decided it was a no-go. I have since edited the OP. Check the site for the radio station and use keyword=doubledown in the search box. I can't post a hot or cold link to the site because of BOTD type pics. |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:06:35 PM EDT
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Good for the Dad, but I have a strong suspicion that his worries have only just begun. He showed remarkable restraint. Lethal force would be justified when somebody is raping your daughter. I know you can use deadly force to stop rape, but what about statutory rape? |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:27:25 PM EDT
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Good for the Dad, but I have a strong suspicion that his worries have only just begun. He showed remarkable restraint. Lethal force would be justified when somebody is raping your daughter. I know you can use deadly force to stop rape, but what about statutory rape? Rape is rape. |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:47:12 PM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? The legal age of consent is 14 in South Carolina. Don't know about Louisiana state laws on the age of consent And No, I'm not a perv. |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:57:12 PM EDT
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As far as his face goes, it looks like he did a facplant in tar or something. I've never seen a birthmark like that and honestly...it looks like mud or tar on his face......
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:02:53 AM EDT
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Good for the Dad, but I have a strong suspicion that his worries have only just begun. He showed remarkable restraint. Lethal force would be justified when somebody is raping your daughter. I know you can use deadly force to stop rape, but what about statutory rape? Rape is rape. Than why don't statutory rapists get the same period of having to register as a sex offender as actual rapists? I guess if you found 2 minors having sex, you would have to kill them both to prevent the rape. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:05:18 AM EDT
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Looks like dad jacked him up pretty good. Not good enough, but it was a nice start. 
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:08:52 AM EDT
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I have a daughter, and I approve this message.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:31:36 AM EDT
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Crimes like rape or child molestation deserve death IMO.   A little guillotine action is nice.  Crucifixion is always good and can last quite a while. I especially like how they'd nail people in such a way as to press against the nerves in the forearms, causing people to spasm uncontrollably pain.  Nothing beats the mother fucking breaking wheel though. That shit was brutal and just pain sick and twisted. People's arms and legs would get mashed and shattered and then their loose broken limbs would get tied around the wheel. It'd take like a week to die as birds and animals feasted on your broken shattered body that cooks everyday in the sun.      |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:47:29 AM EDT
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"NSFW" - ? One of the few ARFCOMisms I still don't understand. Translation, please. Not Safe For Work. Basically, anything that could even possibly be above PG rated is strictly banned from Arfcom. Unless it's graphic gore, killings, maimings or the like ... but a beach picture with a person in a bikini is not allowed.  Good point, If bikini pics are not "family entertainment", then neither is gunfighting. The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:55:53 AM EDT
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I guess if you found 2 minors having sex, you would have to kill them both to prevent the rape. There are some here that would do it. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:55:58 AM EDT
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I guess if you found 2 minors having sex, you would have to kill them both to prevent the rape. There are some here that would do it. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:56:41 AM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? According to the law (in most states) - no. According to physiology and history - absolutely. Hell, less than 100 years ago 14 y/o's were 'adults' and doing 'adult' things like holding down full-time jobs, getting married and starting families. Brian |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 12:57:59 AM EDT
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Good for the Dad, but I have a strong suspicion that his worries have only just begun. He showed remarkable restraint. Lethal force would be justified when somebody is raping your daughter. I know you can use deadly force to stop rape, but what about statutory rape? Rape is rape. Don't think so. Brian |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 1:05:00 AM EDT
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Looks like dad is a lefty
Why is it most all criminals have tattoos? Not saying the tats make you a criminal... Tattoos make you a criminal, trust me. Really. I'm sure that a lot of servicemen and women would love to know that, along with all the cops that have them. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 1:08:44 AM EDT
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"NSFW" - ? One of the few ARFCOMisms I still don't understand. Translation, please. Not Safe For Work. Basically, anything that could even possibly be above PG rated is strictly banned from Arfcom. Unless it's graphic gore, killings, maimings or the like ... but a beach picture with a person in a bikini is not allowed. Good point, If bikini pics are not "family entertainment", then neither is gunfighting. The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really. 
Yep... those evil Christians are keeping you down again. I can't begin to tell you the problems I've had finding porn on the internet. What's your secret? |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 1:17:54 AM EDT
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"NSFW" - ? One of the few ARFCOMisms I still don't understand. Translation, please. Not Safe For Work. Basically, anything that could even possibly be above PG rated is strictly banned from Arfcom. Unless it's graphic gore, killings, maimings or the like ... but a beach picture with a person in a bikini is not allowed. Good point, If bikini pics are not "family entertainment", then neither is gunfighting. The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really.
Yep... those evil Christians are keeping you down again. I can't begin to tell you the problems I've had finding porn on the internet. What's your secret? Why don't you do something typical, like blow up an abortion clinic or burn some books and vinyl records. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 1:36:20 AM EDT
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Why don't you do something typical, like blow up an abortion clinic or burn some books and vinyl records. 
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Posted: 7/26/2009 1:49:52 AM EDT
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The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really. Really.
I shouldn't feed the trolls, but meh, it's almost 3:00 in the morning. What else am I going to do? -Ed |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 2:12:23 AM EDT
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"NSFW" - ? One of the few ARFCOMisms I still don't understand. Translation, please. Not Safe For Work. Basically, anything that could even possibly be above PG rated is strictly banned from Arfcom. Unless it's graphic gore, killings, maimings or the like ... but a beach picture with a person in a bikini is not allowed. Good point, If bikini pics are not "family entertainment", then neither is gunfighting. The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really. You are fucking kidding right? 
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Posted: 7/26/2009 2:16:19 AM EDT
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it's very relevant. if his 14yo daughter was willingly banging this guy, he needs to kick his own ass while he is at it... I have seen teen girls who were not right in the head rebel on their very strict parents and get in to drugs, alcohol and sex..... 
2 seperate issues here. The 23 year old needs to be taken care of and then the daughter needs to be taken care of. The 23 year old definitely knows better so there is no doubt about his punishment. The 14 year old may need counseling in addition to discipline. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 2:53:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "NSFW" - ? One of the few ARFCOMisms I still don't understand. Translation, please. Not Safe For Work. Basically, anything that could even possibly be above PG rated is strictly banned from Arfcom. Unless it's graphic gore, killings, maimings or the like ... but a beach picture with a person in a bikini is not allowed. Good point, If bikini pics are not "family entertainment", then neither is gunfighting. The line about keeping it "family friendly" is BS and really just there to satisfy some prudish religious fanatics. They're not so different from the Taliban really. Yep... those evil Christians are keeping you down again. I can't begin to tell you the problems I've had finding porn on the internet. What's your secret? Why don't you do something typical, like blow up an abortion clinic or burn some books and vinyl records. Why don't you piss-off, troll boy. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 2:58:39 AM EDT
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Some individuals are alive simply due to the fact it is illegal for John Q. Public to kill them.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:04:10 AM EDT
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Meh, if she was 16 or 17 it would not be that big of a deal. 14 is a bit young though ... I don't even know how someone could tolerate being around a 14 year old girl long enough to want to fuck them, they are perhaps the most annoying group of human beings in existence. Still, I tend to see these "age gap" cases as being overblown ... yes, age of consent and all that means that she legally cannot give herself up, but the funny thing is that girls often do anyways before that age, and they almost always go for older men. Who knows what the back story is, or if she seduced him? I've known some high school girls that have done some fucked up shit to get older guys to sleep with them. I know girls who had a competition in high school to see who could sleep with the oldest guy ... and it ended up being some 28 year old kid. If it was my daughter, he'd still be getting an ass beating or worse, but I digress. In before the white knights come to defend against any and all underage sex. If this WAS an actual "rape" case, then obviously the whole story changes, and the guy would / should get shot.  I'm not advocating this type of stuff, but it's amazing how hot so many people got over this in this thread. My european friends say that this type of stuff happens all the time over there and, while not the social norm, isn't that big of a deal. Here, I hear all of these people posting talking about killing the guy. I don't get it. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:06:48 AM EDT
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Meh, if she was 16 or 17 it would not be that big of a deal. 14 is a bit young though ... I don't even know how someone could tolerate being around a 14 year old girl long enough to want to fuck them, they are perhaps the most annoying group of human beings in existence. Still, I tend to see these "age gap" cases as being overblown ... yes, age of consent and all that means that she legally cannot give herself up, but the funny thing is that girls often do anyways before that age, and they almost always go for older men. Who knows what the back story is, or if she seduced him? I've known some high school girls that have done some fucked up shit to get older guys to sleep with them. I know girls who had a competition in high school to see who could sleep with the oldest guy ... and it ended up being some 28 year old kid. If it was my daughter, he'd still be getting an ass beating or worse, but I digress. In before the white knights come to defend against any and all underage sex. If this WAS an actual "rape" case, then obviously the whole story changes, and the guy would / should get shot. [>:// Did you just contradict yourself? I mean, I don't know about the laws in your neck of the woods but sex with anyone under 18 IS underage sex. And according to most state laws (and I was just told that this applies to Fed law as well, I will have to verify it) that there is no such thing as consensual sex with anyone under 18... legally speaking. ETA: OK I just found out that in your neck of the woods, 17 is age of legal consent, still 16 is a NO GO. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:09:24 AM EDT
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Meh, if she was 16 or 17 it would not be that big of a deal. 14 is a bit young though ... I don't even know how someone could tolerate being around a 14 year old girl long enough to want to fuck them, they are perhaps the most annoying group of human beings in existence. Still, I tend to see these "age gap" cases as being overblown ... yes, age of consent and all that means that she legally cannot give herself up, but the funny thing is that girls often do anyways before that age, and they almost always go for older men. Who knows what the back story is, or if she seduced him? I've known some high school girls that have done some fucked up shit to get older guys to sleep with them. I know girls who had a competition in high school to see who could sleep with the oldest guy ... and it ended up being some 28 year old kid. If it was my daughter, he'd still be getting an ass beating or worse, but I digress. In before the white knights come to defend against any and all underage sex. If this WAS an actual "rape" case, then obviously the whole story changes, and the guy would / should get shot. [>:// Did you just contradict yourself? I mean, I don't know about the laws in your neck of the woods but sex with anyone under 18 IS underage sex. And according to most state laws (and I was just told that this applies to Fed law as well, I will have to verify it) that there is no such thing as consensual sex with anyone under 18... legally speaking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws Each US state has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17 or 18. The most common age is 16. age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Texas age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:11:23 AM EDT
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...A 23 year old sexual predator names Jose Torres was having sex with his 14 year old daughter.... So, was he raping her against or according to her will? ( I can't find the story link on the New Orleans radio station's website )
~ she is 14.. your question is not relevent. thanks it's very relevant. if his 14yo daughter was willingly banging this guy, he needs to kick his own ass while he is at it... Your statement makes NO fucking sense... Why should dad kick his own ass? because she is a minor and HE has to be responsible for her behavior? then she CANT be "willingly" banging this guy. Pick one side of the road or the other. Shouldnt you be at summer camp or some shit like that?
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:16:52 AM EDT
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OK ONCE AGAIN for all of you that keep asking if the girl was "WILLING" to have sex with the pedophile... Let me spell it out for you:
Overview
The following laws are the ages for sexual consent in the United States only. The age of sexual consent is the age when the law says you can agree to have sex. This means that until you reach this age, you can not legally have sex with anyone, regardless of whether or not you or your parents consent. Sometimes the law is different if you are female or male. Some states also have different ages of consent for homosexual intercourse. As with any laws, these are subject to change. If you are younger than age 18, please check these laws in the state in which you reside. These laws exist because some teens are not mature enough to know that their actions have consequences. The law makes sure that young people are not exploited by adults. Statutory rape is the crime committed when an adult has sexual intercourse with someone under the legal age of sexual consent. If the crime is reported (even if your partner is your boyfriend/girlfriend), that person may be arrested, tried in a court of law and sent to jail. Age of Sexual Consent in USA State Age Law on Same-sex Intercourse? Alabama 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Alaska 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Arizona 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Arkansas 16 no law on same-sex intercourse California 18 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Colorado 17 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Connecticut 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse D.C. 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Delaware 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Florida 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Georgia 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Hawaii 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Idaho 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Illinois 17 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Indiana 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Iowa 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Kansas 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Kentucky 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Louisiana 17 no law on same-sex intercourse Maine 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Maryland 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Massachusetts 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Michigan 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Minnesota 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Mississippi 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Missouri 17 no law on same-sex intercourse Montana 16 f/18 m 18 f/f, 18 m/m Nebraska 17 no law on same-sex intercourse Nevada 16 16 f/m, 18 f/f, 18 m/m intercourse New Hampshire 16 16 f/m, 18 f/f, 18 m/m intercourse New Jersey 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse New Mexico 17 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse New York 17 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse North Carolina 16 no law on same-sex intercourse North Dakota 18 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Ohio 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Oklahoma 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Oregon 18 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Pennsylvania 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Rhode Island 16 no law on same-sex intercourse South Carolina 16 no law on same-sex intercourse South Dakota 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Tennessee 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Texas 17 no law on same-sex intercourse Utah 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Vermont 16 no law on same-sex intercourse Virginia 18 no law on same-sex intercourse Washington 16 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse West Virginia 16 16 f/m, 18 f/f, 18 m/m Wisconsin 18 f/m, f/f, m/m intercourse Wyoming 16 f/18m no law on same-sex intercourse |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:18:40 AM EDT
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There they go again.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:23:25 AM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. but at 14, does she have the mental capacity to give consent? Freshman in high school? Yes, she should have the capacity to make a decision. However, girls that young are more prone to fall for the BS guys say, but I would expect her mother to have prepared her for that in junior high. Doesnt matter on how much prep a parent or a school can do... Pedophiles are the most vile form of con artist out there. They can take days, weeks, months even YEARS "grooming" their victims. They play mindfuck games with the victim and wait for an opportunity. Its a sick world out there. Remember 1 in 3 girls are victimized and 1 in 6 boys.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:26:28 AM EDT
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Meh, if she was 16 or 17 it would not be that big of a deal. 14 is a bit young though ... I don't even know how someone could tolerate being around a 14 year old girl long enough to want to fuck them, they are perhaps the most annoying group of human beings in existence. Still, I tend to see these "age gap" cases as being overblown ... yes, age of consent and all that means that she legally cannot give herself up, but the funny thing is that girls often do anyways before that age, and they almost always go for older men. Who knows what the back story is, or if she seduced him? I've known some high school girls that have done some fucked up shit to get older guys to sleep with them. I know girls who had a competition in high school to see who could sleep with the oldest guy ... and it ended up being some 28 year old kid. If it was my daughter, he'd still be getting an ass beating or worse, but I digress. In before the white knights come to defend against any and all underage sex. If this WAS an actual "rape" case, then obviously the whole story changes, and the guy would / should get shot. [>:// Did you just contradict yourself? I mean, I don't know about the laws in your neck of the woods but sex with anyone under 18 IS underage sex. And according to most state laws (and I was just told that this applies to Fed law as well, I will have to verify it) that there is no such thing as consensual sex with anyone under 18... legally speaking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws Each US state has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17 or 18. The most common age is 16. age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Texas age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming. DAGNABBIT!!! Here I am searching for the info and you posted it!  Thanks!
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Posted: 7/26/2009 3:55:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: Looks like dad jacked him up pretty good. Not good enough, but it was a nice start. Nah, that looks like a port wine stain on his face. He was treated for a small laceration under his eye. Arrest report and pics here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/archive.html |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 4:33:37 AM EDT
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If the girl is willing and came on to the guy, he still needs a beat down and the girl needs to see a shrink. And I would consider myself a failure as a father at that point. If the girl was raped, as I father I need to know, because if I think it's rape, I'm killing the SOB right then, right there. And I would hate to kill some SOB who was just getting some from a willing girl, even if it was my girl and she was 14. It doesn't mean he would not get a beat down, but I would not kill him. So, yes, it's important to know if she was willing. She's only 14. By definition, she was raped. The only way I could not shoot him was if my little girl of 14 looked like she was 18. Very few do. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 4:45:09 AM EDT
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Lemme explain my question a bit more......
Technically any sexual conduct between a minor and an adult qualifies as statutory rape, but that's not the point I was making. ,,,,,,,,,,, Rape is forced sex, and in practical terms, it does matter if the sexual contact (in this instance) was forced or not. To put it bluntly....... -if your 14-yr old daughter is a whore who's looking to give it up to every dirt-bag in town, you're wasting your time beating up dirt-bags. ––––––- My feeling on statutory rape is this: if there are obvious signs that the act was not committed voluntarily, then prosecute the adult. If the sex was consensual, then BOTH persons should get the same punishments––because both were freely involved. If both are guilty, it makes no sense at all to jail one and let the other go free. The odd problem with "statutory rape" laws (as in the US) is that it basically denies minors of a basic right. The premise is that a minor cannot legally consent to sex, while an adult can––but the logical problem is that if sexual consent is truly a right at all, then it cannot be granted or transferred by the state. As a right, you automatically have it all along, and the state cannot take it away. ~ |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 4:48:25 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ...A 23 year old sexual predator names Jose Torres was having sex with his 14 year old daughter.... So, was he raping her against or according to her will? ( I can't find the story link on the New Orleans radio station's website )~ she is 14.. your question is not relevent. thanks Legally, you're correct. But if his 14 year-old daughter is voluntarily getting down with 23 year-old guys then as another poster observed, just beating up Jose won't solve them. In fact, she might enjoy the drama: Daddy is finally paying attention to her. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:23:26 AM EDT
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Dad got him pretty good. He's a pretty lil' thing, looks like Karma will be coming in prison.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:42:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: But if his 14 year-old daughter is voluntarily getting down with 23 year-old guys then as another poster observed, just beating up Jose won't solve them. In fact, she might enjoy the drama: Daddy is finally paying attention to her. +1 If the smokinggun article is correct he was her boyfriend which makes sense since he was hiding under the covers. She will be banging some other guy soon as there is an endless supply of boys her age or older men who will be happy to take her for ride. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:45:53 AM EDT
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Looks like dad jacked him up pretty good. Not good enough, but it was a nice start. Don't worry, bro. He'll get finished off in prison... |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 6:01:24 AM EDT
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...A 23 year old sexual predator names Jose Torres was having sex with his 14 year old daughter.... So, was he raping her against or according to her will? ( I can't find the story link on the New Orleans radio station's website )
~ she is 14.. your question is not relevent. thanks it's very relevant. if his 14yo daughter was willingly banging this guy, he needs to kick his own ass while he is at it... Your statement makes NO fucking sense... Why should dad kick his own ass? because she is a minor and HE has to be responsible for her behavior? then she CANT be "willingly" banging this guy. Pick one side of the road or the other. Shouldnt you be at summer camp or some shit like that?
read the posts leading up to mine, idiot. they all went about like this: GOOD FOR YOU, DAD!!! we don't have all of the facts. IF she was willingly banging this guy, maybe he's not the greatest parent in the world? and yes, parents are typically responsible for the actions of their kids. summer camp. that is fucking original. you're brain cannot process my statement, so accuse me of being a teenager? brilliant. shit for brains like you are driving this straight to a lock... |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 6:07:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Looks like dad is a lefty Why is it most all criminals have tattoos? Not saying the tats make you a criminal... Tattoos make you a criminal, trust me.  |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 6:10:37 AM EDT
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But if his 14 year-old daughter is voluntarily getting down with 23 year-old guys then as another poster observed, just beating up Jose won't solve them. In fact, she might enjoy the drama: Daddy is finally paying attention to her. +1 If the smokinggun article is correct he was her boyfriend which makes sense since he was hiding under the covers. She will be banging some other guy soon as there is an endless supply of boys her age or older men who will be happy to take her for ride. don't ruin all of the hero-dad's day... |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 7:13:05 AM EDT
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14 is old enough to give consent. Consensual sex is not rape. While this guy is in jail and being labeled a "child molester" this girl will be banging the next guy who will buy her alcohol and cigarettes. This guy is low class and a loser for going after such young pussy but it distresses me that so many people can't distinguish consensual sex from rape. This is not a crime just a family emergency. You dads love to protect your daughters and pretend they are nine when they're not. Those girls hit puberty and some of them get HORNY. Just accept it and deal with it accordingly. Not by blaming the guy they they give it up to.
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Posted: 7/26/2009 9:23:46 AM EDT
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...A 23 year old sexual predator names Jose Torres was having sex with his 14 year old daughter.... So, was he raping her against or according to her will? ( I can't find the story link on the New Orleans radio station's website )
~ she is 14.. your question is not relevent. thanks it's very relevant. if his 14yo daughter was willingly banging this guy, he needs to kick his own ass while he is at it... Your statement makes NO fucking sense... Why should dad kick his own ass? because she is a minor and HE has to be responsible for her behavior? then she CANT be "willingly" banging this guy. Pick one side of the road or the other. Shouldnt you be at summer camp or some shit like that?
read the posts leading up to mine, idiot. they all went about like this: GOOD FOR YOU, DAD!!! we don't have all of the facts. IF she was willingly banging this guy, maybe he's not the greatest parent in the world? and yes, parents are typically responsible for the actions of their kids. summer camp. that is fucking original. you're brain cannot process my statement, so accuse me of being a teenager? brilliant. shit for brains like you are driving this straight to a lock... When people like you start calling other members here "idiot" YOU are the ones sending this thread to a lock. You are also talking out BOTH sides of your mouth. You have all the facts. 1. SHE is a minor 2. HE is not 3. NO SUCH THING AS CONSENSUAL SEX WITH A MINOR!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CONSENSUAL SEX WITH A MINOR!! (do you understand it yet or should I repeat it a few more times?) If you know ANYTHING (which so far you are proving you DON'T) about pedophiles is that they a con artists of the worst order. and if you read MY posts prior to this one, they can take months even years grooming their victims... How does a parent compete with that? When a parent is teaching their kids to not smoke, not drink, dont do drugs, do your homework, stay away from pedophiles, Kids at that age think parents dont know shit anyway and they know better than them. Kids have the attitude that they know better. Well, kinda the way you are acting. Then comes the fun part for the parent, they have to pick up the pieces of all the shit that has happened. I love how a lot of you point to the 14 year old and say "If she was willing" No fucking wonder why girls that are raped dont come forward. Stop looking at the 14 year olds perspective and look at the POS pedophile that is an ADULT and should know better. |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 9:27:47 AM EDT
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14 is old enough to give consent. Consensual sex is not rape. While this guy is in jail and being labeled a "child molester" this girl will be banging the next guy who will buy her alcohol and cigarettes. This guy is low class and a loser for going after such young pussy but it distresses me that so many people can't distinguish consensual sex from rape. This is not a crime just a family emergency. You dads love to protect your daughters and pretend they are nine when they're not. Those girls hit puberty and some of them get HORNY. Just accept it and deal with it accordingly. Not by blaming the guy they they give it up to. Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking.. What state says 14 year olds are old enough to give consent? If anyone has the problem of distinguishing consensual sex with rape is you. |
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