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The way I read this is; the kid called in sick on Friday and was later seen that same evening at a Party. I say the jackass deserved to be fired for 2 reasons at least. 1. Being an idiot 2. Lying to the boss |
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Probably ought to go back an re-read "Small Unit Leadership". On the other hand, after reading that post, I have to wonder whether you can read, because your writing blows.
I sure as hell wouldn't admit I fired someone because I read his blog about a party, on his own time, two days prior to the work day; probably ought to hear what the man has to say, he may have needed a sick day. |
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i could give too shits if someone partys, i got drunk after work saturday. I am trying to run a bar/ restaurant and when people dont show up on friday night and blatantly lie to me and the other employees show evidence I have to fire that person. |
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Strong words from a man who obviously didn't read the later posts by the thread starter. The kid called in sick on friday, the same night of the party, and was fired the following monday. |
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Oh, missed work friday and then went to a party. Big no no. Good job. |
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Once back in high school in Virginia I told my boss (meat department in a Food Lion) that I pulled a muscle in my back and had to call in sick on a Saturday.
On Sunday morning, I'm back wrappin' my meat talking to a chick in the produce department about my tubing trip down the river and how awesome it was floating down river all day with a cooler of beer. My boss overheard me and caught me red handed... All I could say was "well boss, I was on my back the whole time!" He kept me on board for originality but I had to clean the meat department every night for two weeks... |
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What a stoopid sh*t. Post something on the net and expect someone to find it.
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You are right, I must have missed one. On the other hand, his posts are barely intelligible. |
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I would have cut the kid a break. Getting fired is harsh for this, We all need to be a tad more forgiving.
Having said that..... Youre still an asshole to work for and why are you looking at my myspace page??? Are you gay? |
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im talking about the fuckin "boss" that started this post,,he must have been the guy that stayed at home when everyone else was out getting laid,,or at least trying to get laid where i work if you call off you have to state the reason as either sick or personal,,everybody says personal because of turd burglars like the boss who "cruises" myspace |
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Hope this wasn't asked already but:
How many "sick" days has he taken? Any no show, no calls? How long has he been with your company? |
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No no no. See, that was rhetorical. I didn't need an answer because your comment was so asinine it did not warrant one. Whether you don't like Mormons or simply put that in there as to point out that Mormons don't drink or like fun was pretty unwarranted. On top of that, I question your own ability to manage, supervise, or lead. In circumstances where employees need to be trusted, this employee broke the trust. Rag on 1911greg all you want, but if this a place that does not offer paid sick leave, but only has non paid sick days, then he was within his authority. |
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What has the Mormon aspect got to do with anything?????? |
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Sick leave is NOT vacation, it’s for being sick. Sick leave is a benefit that keeps people who are sick from coming into work and infecting the rest of the crew. If you want a day off and you’re not sick, then you take vacation. If you call in sick and you're not, then you are a liar. Pretty Simple |
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Change your name to "hookie" |
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I LOOKED UP FIRED IN THE DICTIONARY AND SAW YOUR PICTURE. BUH BYE!!!11! |
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Isuspect it is because somebody has a problem with Mormons and felt like interjecting his problems into someone else's thread. Cause if 1911greg is a Mormon, then I have to have a discussion with him about the Word of Wisdom and admitting your sins to the whole freakin' world in tha intarweb. |
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That's the part I like. My better half NEVER misses work and is basically punished for it by having to pick up on the extra work. Dickheads who think it's cool to skip work really piss me off. They are basically telling all of thier fellow employees that they are better than you |
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Was the kid on previous discipline? Seems kinda harsh to go straight for the kill. I guess it depends on what kinda job he
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Did you not bother to read anymore? The part where the other employees narced on the kid who was fired because they got tired of having to do his work for him? |
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Who the FUCK, shat in your cereal...bukkaki. |
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I dont like your wooden shoes.. YOU'RE FIRED! |
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did you think the lieing employee should have gotten a second chance? |
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I think that 1911greg did ONE thing wrong and that he did not SHOW the employee HOW and WHY he got busted. I dont know how valuable the employee was to the company. If he was mediocre then good riddance. If he was a stellar employee, then make him earn that trust back. I would have had the MYSPACE page open and call the guy in the office. Ask him how was he feeling, then after he BS'ed his way through it to me... turn the monitor around and say "Explain yourself" I LOATHE liars. It is disrespectful to the person they are lying to and shows VERY LITTLE self respect. As an employer, I have had my share of them and let me tell you it gets old real fast. That's one of the reasons I dont want employees anymore. It has NOTHING to do with the kid going to a party... He lied and he got busted LYING. |
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Get used to it, companies looking to hire, esp new college grads, routinely google names and look at MySpace as part of the interview screening process... we talk about it all the time in my management courses, and what you post/put on the web .. you put forever... and while you may not get fired, if it comes down to you and someone else for the same job, both with great profiles, but the other guy has a myspace that has pictures of him doing something reckless or stupid, or bragging about something inane, or just being drunk... it counts against him, whether people admit it or not, it contributes to the overall opinion of the applicant... could go the other way too... someone has a professional looking, well done page that supports the data in their resume....
I say good clean firing.... |
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It was your call...you da man, el Jefe!
Now that you've posted the sit-rep, whether or not it makes you an asshole is up to us. |
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Depends on the employee,a couple of questions: Was this the first time ? Was there past instances and this was the final straw ? Sorry,I just don't see the point in bragging about firing someone.He sounds happy and proud of himself which is kind of...I dunno,wierd ? Maybe he was just put in a position of authority and this was the first time he fired someone ? FWIW:I have never been fired and have not taken a sick day in quite a long time,maybe 8-10 years. |
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Heh, I usually do that on purpose, too. My managers and coworkers are assholes. Two birds, one stone: get to look like a good, dedicated employee while making all the assholes get sick. I win BTW, I'm used to management that doesn't give people any time off or sick time without a big hassle, while the management themselves will take time off for things such as playing Bingo with the mom and wanting to watch the game (both of these actually happened). |
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In my case, I have nothing on my profile that would be of interest to anyone. You can restrict access to blog (journal) entries, and you can make the entire profile private/friends-only. Best idea with that stuff is to just practice good OPSEC - don't put stuff up if you don't want people knowing about it, and don't put your real name, contact info or anything like that up there (anything that could be searched for). |
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If I want a day off, I take a day off, and I do, in the fall when hunting season is open.
Like last week, I took off thursday and Friday, told my supervisor I wanted to take those 2 days off, un paid but with no points, OK no problem. I have called in to work in the past and said, I will not be in today, I am going hunting see you tommorrow. Never been a problem. This past summer we were going 24/7 for months, everyone was worn out and burned out, after a few months people started to mis a day here and there, it happens, like it or not, people need down time. |
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If the haircut is weird-looking to the general public (customers), it could cost the company money. See ya, Mr Mohawk! OTOH, when I got hired by the Feds(DOI/NPS), I was told, "do NOT cut your hair". But, I was also told, do NOT grow a beard or a mustache. (Looking like a 1775 soldier/minuteman is a lot of work sometimes...) If you wanna play in somebody else's sandbox, ya gotta play by their rules. |
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No. I don't lie to my employees and I expect that they won't lie to me either. A man is only as good as his word, and Hallowe'en boy's word isn't worth shit. |
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How do you know he is "leading by example?" Sounds pretty legit to me. The kid lied. He got fired. Maybe he won't lie to his new boss in the future... |
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Sounds like bossman's word ain't worth shit, either. He lied to the guy about how he found out. |
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You said you run a restaurant. I bet you have way more credit/debit transactions than you do cash. And what merchandise? He gonna run off with a chicken leg? So in other words, you run a restaurant full of trustworthy snitches? |
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Was involved in a MySpace firing about 6-8 months ago...I caught the guy talking to an underaged girl online
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Like I said, he fired the kid for lying, but in the process 1911greg lied to the kid about how he got caught. |
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We had this happen a couple years ago in a place I worked in. We were under major deadlines, and people were coming in despite being REALLY sick. I mean, we had the puking bug going around where you'd puke and have sulphur smelling bowels, the works. Every 7-8 days there would be a fresh round of illness because some asshole didn't stay HOME and NOT SPREAD it to everyone else. We lost tons of time because people won't stay home when they are majorly sick. It took 2 MONTHS to resolve itself, and efficiency was in the shitter, literally. |
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Ha Ha! I guess you hate me. I never call in sick. I work harder when I'm sick. I make others sick? Well, if they all weren't pussies and came to work anyway there wouldn't be a problem. But they're all looking for the slightest excuse to miss any work they can. "My uncle's roomate sneezed.... I need a day off." fucking slackers. |
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I never understood the reluctance to take sick time. If it is offered, and you are sick, use it. Don't make me sick because you want to show how dedicated or macho you are.
I supervise a few people and have sent people home for being at work while sick. Do you think it will get you a raise or quicker promotions if you come in sick? Doesn't happen where I work. Do you think your co-workers will have added admiration for your steely resolve? No, they think you're an asshole who's spreading his funk to the rest of us. Do you think the baby Jesus is putting little gold stars of merit next to your name in heaven? Somehow, I doubt that one too. As far as the O.P. firing some kid....I could care less. But what I find creepy is that he seemed to take pleasure in the act. Posting about it is like bragging. I've been involved with terminating a few people's employment and I refuse to act like I did something good. I have always felt depressed that the fired individuals forced me into the position that I had to take action. But hey that's just me. I don't pretend to be some kind of hardass, nor do I want to be... |
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Hmmmm, forgot about the left handed part. I always figured there were only three things left to use for discrimnation: Fat, Stupid and Ugly. I am a management representative for a multi-employer bargaining unit, and deal with labor unions for a living. I actually won a a wrongful termination grievance using that argument. Union claimed we had no grounds to fire the guy. I told them that he was fired for being fat, stupid, and ugly...right in front of his face. The union was aghast, and got all mad, made threats, etc. The arbitration panel was trying not to laugh. I asked the guy how much we weighed...he was 5'7" and weighed 320 lbs. I asked him what ladder was rated to hold him? None. Strike one. I asked him if he was trained in our apprenticeship...of course yes. I asked him why he made so many mistakes on the job that were detailed in the Foreman's journal. He didn't know, so I concluded that he either sabotaged the work, or is just stupid...he opted for stupid. When I got to ugly, I just asked if he ever looked into the mirror...by this point, the guy was ready to kill me, but the deed was done. Fat, stupid, ugly, and now LEFT HANDED...I like it. Hax |
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Years ago, i called in well.
'What? You're well? Why aren't you coming in? "Because I feel great." "If you feel so good, why don't you come in." "Because I'd have to be sick to work there, and I'm not sick, I'm well so I'm not coming in!" |
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I call in sick all the time. I'd go out and get trashed the night before, wake up hungover as hell then tell the guys at work that I'm sick and I'm going back to bed. It happens at least twice a week
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its about 50% cash 50% credit and a dishonest person also has a lot of power with those Credit Cards. As far as merchandise I have busted many for stealing (or trying to steal) booze. even caught a kid trying to steal a fucking box of veal! Caught a guy eating a ribeye in a hamburger bun. Dishonest employees can break you fast! |
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I hate the restaurant industry. Used to work at them when I was young, I was happy as hell to get out. They're full of nothing but pot heads, drug dealers and just all around idiots. The turn over rate is pretty high and I don't blame you for firing the idiot....
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