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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:56:07 PM EDT
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Classic. Just bought a 1969 Mustang convertible as my DD.
The 351 Windsor V8 has had a few... tweaks... so it's pushing 400 hp. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:56:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Old restored car or truck they keep their value they will be reliable as long as you maintain them. When they do breack it's usualy predictable and easy to fix and maintain. You have a great deal of interoperability in an old car that you don't always get with a new car. When they are past their smog inspection date you can do with them what you please. BTW way I drive a 45 year old truck as a daily driver. The biggest diffrence is that I know the vehicle inside and out and at the end of the day i am the best mechanic for it. Most modern conviences I can live without but I also don't sit down to pee either. This. Below is my daily driver, I can keep her running indefinately. I could also restore her for less than the price of a new truck and have a better than new truck when I was done. Parts are plentiful and cheap, insurance is cheap, registration is $22 a year, oh and she does have AC! http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0920.jpg I'll be in my bunk.... |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:58:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Classic. Just bought a 1969 Mustang convertible as my DD. The 350 Windsor V8 has had a few... tweaks... so it's pushing 400 hp. http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr136/efillc/69%20Mustang/Picture002.jpg A 350 Windsor is definitely a rare option |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:59:25 PM EDT
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 My second BMW '02. Going back to Webber carbs after I am done with this resto though, Tii has not been worth the headache so far. Some day I'd love to go Turbo, but I have my money saved for other things.  |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:59:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Classic. Just bought a 1969 Mustang convertible as my DD. The 350 Windsor V8 has had a few... tweaks... so it's pushing 400 hp. http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr136/efillc/69%20Mustang/Picture002.jpg A 350 Windsor is definitely a rare option |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:01:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: Bumpsides FTW! Quoted: Old restored car or truck they keep their value they will be reliable as long as you maintain them. When they do breack it's usualy predictable and easy to fix and maintain. You have a great deal of interoperability in an old car that you don't always get with a new car. When they are past their smog inspection date you can do with them what you please. BTW way I drive a 45 year old truck as a daily driver. The biggest diffrence is that I know the vehicle inside and out and at the end of the day i am the best mechanic for it. Most modern conviences I can live without but I also don't sit down to pee either. This. Below is my daily driver, I can keep her running indefinately. I could also restore her for less than the price of a new truck and have a better than new truck when I was done. Parts are plentiful and cheap, insurance is cheap, registration is $22 a year, oh and she does have AC! http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0920.jpg The main reason I prefer my bump over a new car? I actually OWN my truck. Sure, newer cars have power-everything and better gas mileage, but look at the cost of buying, and look at the costs of repair once they age. I rather have my less-than-perfect older car than be saddled to a fat chunk of debt that in the long run, will cost me an arm and a leg to keep running. My daily driver:  |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:01:54 PM EDT
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way too vague.
olds 442 or new chevy cobalt? bel air or new 911 gt2? dodge dart or honda civic? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:05:31 PM EDT
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So just a question to arfcom. Would you rather have a restored classic car or a new 2010/2011 car? Would you rather restore a classic car or buy a new car? Restored classic. I don't need $40k of equipment to fucking work on it. Plus it looks a hell of a lot better than that new shit they are putting out. Case in point, a friend of mine dumped $30k into rebuilding the engine, turbo, transmission and exhaust system in his Toyota Supra. He's pushing about 330 HP. I'm doing a total off the frame restoration of a 1972 Corvette for about 2/3 the price and I'll have more than double the HP to the wheels than he's getting. New cars mean more expense when they need repair. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:07:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: So just a question to arfcom. Would you rather have a restored classic car or a new 2010/2011 car? Would you rather restore a classic car or buy a new car? depends which car it is in each category. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:08:05 PM EDT
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Edit: Many good shots. I notice mostly old rides. No poll?
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:13:53 PM EDT
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Been al,most a year into the restoration. Still have the suspension and transmission left to do. I also have an 04 Z06, I woulndt want to have to use either of them as daily drivers. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:15:59 PM EDT
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What are my choices? a new dodge challenger or an old one? I choose the new one, and old GTO or a new one? I will take an old one please, a new Camaro? or an old model? I will take a new one....same for the Mustang...I like the new ones. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:17:23 PM EDT
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Old car, not if daily driver though.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:19:51 PM EDT
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/billyw9/IMG_0323.jpg Been al,most a year into the restoration. Still have the suspension and transmission left to do. I also have an 04 Z06, I woulndt want to have to use either of them as daily drivers. Very, very nice... Here's mine and the power plant going in it.... This is prior to tear down... 
Here is the 502 BBC that I'm building to put in it... 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:20:53 PM EDT
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I would take 1970 Chevelle SS body and mate it to a ZR1 Corvette.....that would be my restored car.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:21:06 PM EDT
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I hate new shit,old for me
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:26:16 PM EDT
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This is prior to tear down... Are you going to keep it yellow? If I restore another one (and I probably will) it will be a big block and it will be yellow |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:27:22 PM EDT
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Where is the Truck option?
Or as friend to all here the pre - electronic ignition diesel EMP proof 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:29:38 PM EDT
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I would take 1970 Chevelle SS body and mate it to a ZR1 Corvette.....that would be my restored car. It's been done on a '69 Camaro, I see no reason why you couldn't do it to a Chevelle... Project Jackass Aside from the $60k you'll need just in parts. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:30:49 PM EDT
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My 1955 Chevy kicks serious 4-cylinder buzzing mufflers ASS! And it is fun to drive.
 I built it old school...350, 280 CC cam, 3000 stall 411 grears blah blah...I love it!
Edit - if you are worried about gas mileage or an old fart worried about how well it tours (????? focus on comfort??? come on..its a fun car) then buy a new car or trick out a new car. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:32:47 PM EDT
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I would take 1970 Chevelle SS body and mate it to a ZR1 Corvette.....that would be my restored car. It's been done on a '69 Camaro, I see no reason why you couldn't do it to a Chevelle... Project Jackass Aside from the $60k you'll need just in parts. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:33:51 PM EDT
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If it's a car, I'll take a classic.
If I have to drive it everyday, I'll take a Duramax Diesel Pickup. I don't own a car that's not a Hot Rod or Classic car. Trucks and vans for everyday drivers. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:35:14 PM EDT
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I love old cars, especially old German cars BUT you can buy a new car and drive it 100K miles and reasonably expect it to do that with very few problems. I just changed brakes on a Nissan Murano with 133K miles. The pads and rotors were original, and had just hit metal-to-metal on one of the rear pads. I pulled a spark plug, and while it was SLIGHTLY worn it was very clean indicating the very lean conditions these engines are run at when going down the road. Dare I say it, a spark plug ran 50 miles in a "classic car" would have been more discolored. The owners have had ZERO repairs done over the 133K miles, just synthetic oil changes, filter changes, and tires.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:38:05 PM EDT
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I guess I read it wrong...I thought it was "another" car, not your daily driver.
Do not work on your only transportation...other than maintenance. BUT a toy...get something fun!....see above. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:44:21 PM EDT
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My older car . . .
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:46:19 PM EDT
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New cars have:
Better brakes Better suspension Better fuel induction system Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions Actually, both my 22 year old Mazdas are excellent in all those departments except the 929 which doesn't make gobs of HP.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:48:29 PM EDT
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/billyw9/IMG_0323.jpg Been al,most a year into the restoration. Still have the suspension and transmission left to do. I also have an 04 Z06, I woulndt want to have to use either of them as daily drivers. I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:49:07 PM EDT
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New cars have: Better brakes My 68 Camaro has brand new 2 piston 2002 Camaro brakes all around Better suspension My 68 Camaro has Hotchkis autocross/race ready leaves and upper/lower A arms Better fuel induction system Will be getting an 05 Corvette motor here shortly Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions 500 HP fully legal Any thing else? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:51:43 PM EDT
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New cars have: Better brakes My 68 Camaro has brand new 2 piston 2002 Camaro brakes all around Better suspension My 68 Camaro has Hotchkis autocross/race ready leaves and upper/lower A arms Better fuel induction system Will be getting an 05 Corvette motor here shortly Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions 500 HP fully legal Any thing else? There are always exceptions. Most people don't have all those on a restored old car. Stock for stock, the statement still stands and I don't consider the suspension you describe as better than modern ones. Maybe for a drag strip, but I bet it ain't fun on a twisty road. Carburettor or injection? Will it pass emissions? Probably doesn't have to. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:52:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Classic car with modern tech would be nice.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:54:22 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:56:51 PM EDT
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New cars have: Better brakes My 68 Camaro has brand new 2 piston 2002 Camaro brakes all around Better suspension My 68 Camaro has Hotchkis autocross/race ready leaves and upper/lower A arms Better fuel induction system Will be getting an 05 Corvette motor here shortly Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions 500 HP fully legal Any thing else? There are always exceptions. Most people don't have all those on a restored old car. Stock for stock, the statement still stands and I don't consider the suspension you describe as better than modern ones. Maybe for a drag strip, but I bet it ain't fun on a twisty road. Will it pass emissions? Probabably doesn't have to. I can't afford a 3-link suspension right now, so leaves will have to do. Leaves are plenty good, and can ride better than some newer cars, though it will never ride like a Ferrari. No, it doesn't need to pass emissions, but it can, very easily.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:58:08 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64840 Here's a '54 Vette with an LS9. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:58:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: New cars have: Better brakes Most, if not all, old cars can be upgraded to power discs pretty easily. Better suspension They all can be upgraded. Of course, the simple solution is to slow the fuck down and not drive like a jackwagon. Better fuel induction system And you usually have to drop the fucking gas tank to fix it. Whoop-dee-doo. Aftermarket fuel injection can be put in it anyways. Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions Older cars don't worry about passing smog, and they make more than enough horsepower. Any thing else? There are always exceptions. Most people don't have all those on a restored old car. Stock for stock, the statement still stands and I don't consider the suspension you describe as better than modern ones. Maybe for a drag strip, but I bet it ain't fun on a twisty road. Will it pass emissions? Probabably doesn't have to. Ok, how about my take. BTW these upgrades are all much cheaper than a new car. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:02:31 PM EDT
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Mine is red, fathers is the blue.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:04:27 PM EDT
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New cars have: Better brakes Most, if not all, old cars can be upgraded to power discs pretty easily. Better suspension They all can be upgraded. Of course, the simple solution is to slow the fuck down and not drive like a jackwagon. Better fuel induction system And you usually have to drop the fucking gas tank to fix it. Whoop-dee-doo. Aftermarket fuel injection can be put in it anyways. Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions Older cars don't worry about passing smog, and they make more than enough horsepower. Any thing else? There are always exceptions. Most people don't have all those on a restored old car. Stock for stock, the statement still stands and I don't consider the suspension you describe as better than modern ones. Maybe for a drag strip, but I bet it ain't fun on a twisty road. Will it pass emissions? Probabably doesn't have to. Ok, how about my take. BTW these upgrades are all much cheaper than a new car. Agreed, so far I'm only in about $2k over purchase price of my car, and it still cheaper than a base model Sentra, Corolla, Impala, whatever. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:09:57 PM EDT
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Mine is red, fathers is the blue. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u67/Thorgrimm_the_Vain/239chev.jpg Absolutely gorgeous set of cars there. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:10:01 PM EDT
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Definitely older vehicles. The newer cars of today have too many, cheap to produce, but costly to replace plastic parts that break with a light bump and look like shit. I know it matters what you want though and I know lots of people like to have new cars with warranties and leave it to the shop to fix if they break and insurance or warranty to cover it. Not me. I like steel and classic lines and like to work on my own vehicles as much as possible and put that money to other things than feeding greedy corporations anymore than I have to, with their political connections. I prefer to not be in debt and pay for things straight out too. I also like trucks more and own a about to be classic Ford 4x4 F150 with a 5.0 liter V8 and 5 speed manual trans. They don't make them like it anymore and I like not being like the Jones. I'll probably buy a muscle car in a couple years and there's no way in hell I'd waste money on a new car that's got 1/10th the style. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:21:20 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64840 Here's a '54 Vette with an LS9. That's sweet, but the wheels have got to go |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:22:47 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64840 Here's a '54 Vette with an LS9. That's sweet, but the wheels have got to go I agree, far too large, but they were going with the ZR1 theme, and it still looks good. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:24:05 PM EDT
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Does the restored car have an iPod jack?
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:29:39 PM EDT
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Does the restored car have an iPod jack? Mine does, and the radio looks identical to the original |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:31:19 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64840 Here's a '54 Vette with an LS9. anything with a 70's style body? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:39:51 PM EDT
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I would love to get a classic vette and drop a modern LS1/LS3 engine in it. A Vetet Rod is what you want....been thinking about doing a 67/04 for awhile now: Here is a link to a 57 on a 04 (I think) chassis VetteRod Here is a 67: 67 vette rod The beauty of it is that you dont have to cut up/ destroy a real 67. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64840 Here's a '54 Vette with an LS9. anything with a 70's style body? This looks like early '70's 70's |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:47:36 PM EDT
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Hard to say now, everything new out there is shit now. You've got to be high or ignorant to say that. Cars - 400+HP is the new benchmark Truck - 700lb ft torque is available. Vehicles are more reliable and put up better and better performance and safety numbers every year. Don't get me wrong, I love classics, but for everyday driving or towing modern vehicles are where it is at. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:53:00 PM EDT
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New cars have: Better brakes My 68 Camaro has brand new 2 piston 2002 Camaro brakes all around Better suspension My 68 Camaro has Hotchkis autocross/race ready leaves and upper/lower A arms Better fuel induction system Will be getting an 05 Corvette motor here shortly Engines that can make gobs of HP and still pass emissions 500 HP fully legal Any thing else? There are always exceptions. Most people don't have all those on a restored old car. Stock for stock, the statement still stands and I don't consider the suspension you describe as better than modern ones. Maybe for a drag strip, but I bet it ain't fun on a twisty road. Will it pass emissions? Probabably doesn't have to. I can't afford a 3-link suspension right now, so leaves will have to do. Leaves are plenty good, and can ride better than some newer cars, though it will never ride like a Ferrari. No, it doesn't need to pass emissions, but it can, very easily.
I am not talking about ride, I am talking about handling, spirited handling.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:38:36 PM EDT
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I have both.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:02:38 PM EDT
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Older stuff kills you in wrecks these days, and there's too many fucking emo-tard kids texting while driving to drive around too safely in a relic.
New Car, FTW.......but I'd still love to have an original Willys for shits and giggles |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:09:24 PM EDT
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Not even a contest, old with modern driveline/suspension. Modern cars have no style. Once i get settled I'm building a nice daily driver, 63 Falcon with a warmed over fuel injected 302 and TKO 5spd.
 Creature comforts just distract from the driving experience. Give me a tin can with a healthy engine and I'm happy. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:11:14 PM EDT
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Classic. None of the electronic bullshit to give problems.
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