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Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:13:45 AM EDT
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I think you guys have me misinterpreted.  I'm all for Assault weapons and ARs.  It makes me sad the ban happened in Ca, I'm against it.  Hell I've written several letter to oppose the ban that was going through in Washington for ARs.  I want my kids to have the same rights and opportunities I have.  I just don't see a need for having a "machinegun".  A smaller version of  an automatic weapon, commonly known as "submachineguns" I'm for as well.  



I think you're well intentioned but a little off.  The intent of the 2A was to have an armed citizenry in order to prevent an oppressive regime from taking power.  This means having the ability to penetrate armor and generally cause tremendous amounts of destruction- MGs are a necessary addition to your arsenal.    

Our first wars were fought with privately owned arms, including cannons.  Today these would be the equivelent of 20mm cannons, .50BMG, etc.  




Point taken.  I've been schooled  I withdraw my previous statement about machinegun bans... I'd  be there right alongside any of my fellow posters on here to fight, defend, and possibly die for our 2nd amendment.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:15:07 AM EDT
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The pen is mightier than the sword is a dumb saying.




Without the pen their wouldnt be a need for the sword. I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start. Unless the revolution had clearly defined goals and I agreed with said goals, I would probably support the government against it. To fight an idea (slavery) you need another idea (freedom). Fight this battle intellectually. You have a chance then. If you stand up and fight with your AR you will die and your death will mean nothing.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:15:20 AM EDT
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Would you die to defend your 2A Rights? If Guns where completly outlawed


I would because i feel it is essentially the force behind the Constituition,without it our rights are at the whim of the government.



better question would be, "Would you kill to defend your beliefs and way of life, or give in and let another's will be imposed upoun you?"
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:19:20 AM EDT
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I'd  be there right alongside any of my fellow posters on here to fight, defend, and possibly die for our 2nd amendment.


Be careful what you say. Talk is cheap, especially when it's done anonimously with a keyboard.

Once you cut through all the internet "tough-guy" crap, I'll bet there'll be precious few willing to cross the line when the time comes. When they do, it'll be as Quietshooter predicted: They'll all be labeled drug-dealing child abusers who traffic in child porn while armed with semi-auto machine assault pistols.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:19:33 AM EDT
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The pen is mightier than the sword is a dumb saying.




Without the pen their wouldnt be a need for the sword. I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start. Unless the revolution had clearly defined goals and I agreed with said goals, I would probably support the government against it. To fight an idea (slavery) you need another idea (freedom). Fight this battle intellectually. You have a chance then. If you stand up and fight with your AR you will die and your death will mean nothing.



Just a little quote from molonlabe.com...
"The second monument is a plaque dedicated to those heroes at the site. It reads: "Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie." The point of this true story is when anybody demands you to give up your guns, tell them "MOLON LABE". You may fall in the first fight, but many more will step into your place and a determined and organized people can do anything."

People thought like you before we withdrew from Britain.  They thought it was suicide.   But look where it brought us...
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:21:33 AM EDT
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I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start.



Crouch down and lick the hand of tyranny.  



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To fight an idea (slavery) you need another idea (freedom). Fight this battle intellectually. You have a chance then. If you stand up and fight with your AR you will die and your death will mean nothing.



Absolutely, 100% correct.  

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:22:42 AM EDT
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I'd  be there right alongside any of my fellow posters on here to fight, defend, and possibly die for our 2nd amendment.


Be careful what you say. Talk is cheap, especially when it's done anonimously with a keyboard.

Once you cut through all the internet "tough-guy" crap, I'll bet there'll be precious few willing to cross the line when the time comes. When they do, it'll be as Quietshooter predicted: They'll all be labeled drug-dealing child abusers who traffic in child porn while armed with semi-auto machine assault pistols.



Of course it will be.  Then again I have faith in a higher force being there to guide people with a just cause.  Good will always triumph :/  The government could lie about said rebellion, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:25:53 AM EDT
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I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start.



Crouch down and lick the hand of tyranny.  




I do not intend to lick the hand of any tyrant. I will fight them, but in my own way. A way that has a chance to succeed.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:26:26 AM EDT
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I'd  be there right alongside any of my fellow posters on here to fight, defend, and possibly die for our 2nd amendment.


Be careful what you say. Talk is cheap, especially when it's done anonimously with a keyboard.

Once you cut through all the internet "tough-guy" crap, I'll bet there'll be precious few willing to cross the line when the time comes. When they do, it'll be as Quietshooter predicted: They'll all be labeled drug-dealing child abusers who traffic in child porn while armed with semi-auto machine assault pistols.




Like WI_Rifelman said, have clearly stated and defined goals.  The first few stops for revolutionaries would be CNN and Fox news headquarters, followed closely by the NY Times, etc.    





Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:26:28 AM EDT
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Practical needs as well.  Are you going to tell me you're going to sandbag a .50 cal machinegun onto your roof in case someone breaks in?  Are you going to be hunting with one?  First of all, can you even AFFORD one...



I don't think they'd be THAT expensive, legaly limited supply aside of-course.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:27:25 AM EDT
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I've always like these quotes...

"Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:29:04 AM EDT
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I clicked the "yes" button, but it is becoming more problematical.  Not the principal of the thing, but the effectiveness of the outcome (resistance).
On the "Military channel" (digital cable) they've been showing programs about the next generation of military weapons; small arms and light weapons including the next generation of heavy machine gun.  There's stuff about to come on line (and not fifty years from now, but in like the next five to ten years) that's going to make an AR or even an M-16 look like a flintlock rifle.  There's some shit coming down the pike which will so increase the effective military muscle that the government can put into play as to make almost any resistance that civies could field almost completely impotent.  The idea that the Republic could be restored by a disorganized militia may be becoming obsolete.  
So, I guess it boils down to whether or not you feel throwing your life away for only a principal without any realistic chance of real victory is REALLY worth it.  The future is really frightening.  I'm over fifty and I probably won't have to live there in any event.




While what you say is true, I can't help but wonder how many of our armed forces would take up arms against the citizenry in direct opposition to the constitution they swore to uphold?

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:30:04 AM EDT
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I clicked the "yes" button, but it is becoming more problematical.  Not the principal of the thing, but the effectiveness of the outcome (resistance).
On the "Military channel" (digital cable) they've been showing programs about the next generation of military weapons; small arms and light weapons including the next generation of heavy machine gun.  There's stuff about to come on line (and not fifty years from now, but in like the next five to ten years) that's going to make an AR or even an M-16 look like a flintlock rifle.  There's some shit coming down the pike which will so increase the effective military muscle that the government can put into play as to make almost any resistance that civies could field almost completely impotent.  The idea that the Republic could be restored by a disorganized militia may be becoming obsolete.  
So, I guess it boils down to whether or not you feel throwing your life away for only a principal without any realistic chance of real victory is REALLY worth it.  The future is really frightening.  I'm over fifty and I probably won't have to live there in any event.




While what you say is true, I can't help but wonder how many of our armed forces would take up arms against the citizenry in direct opposition to the constitution they swore to uphold?




5%. That is my guess. While there are freedom lovers, there are also many more idiots who will do whatever their officers tell them.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:30:24 AM EDT
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Guns are a means to an end. I would not die to keep them. My life is to damned important. I wouldnt turn them in either. No armed revolution will save this country.  We will only end up like the balkan states. The way to fight is to fight it philosophically.  The pen is mightier than the sword.



What a sad statement!HERE

You won't die to keep them, but, you won't turn them in either hacko.gif I guess I don't understand your philsophyhat


Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:35:04 AM EDT
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I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start.



Crouch down and lick the hand of tyranny.  




I do not intend to lick the hand of any tyrant. I will fight them, but in my own way. A way that has a chance to succeed.



Sometimes an armed revoltion is necessary.  The idea is to get everybody who wants to be free to one state, like Texas, and then declare secession.  You have to be prepared to defend your actions with arms and your life- you can't reason with tyranny.  If each of the Founders each decided to fight them "in their own way", using propaganda or other peaceful means, their rebellion would have been crushed.  

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:35:10 AM EDT
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Guns are a means to an end. I would not die to keep them. My life is to damned important. I wouldnt turn them in either. No armed revolution will save this country.  We will only end up like the balkan states. The way to fight is to fight it philosophically.  The pen is mightier than the sword.



What a sad statement!  HERE'S MY PEN

You won't die to keep them, but, you won't turn them in either I guess I don't understand your philsophy  What's the third option?






Hide them, bury them. There are many options. What good is your 50 cal if you have no underlying philosophy behind it? Sure you say you love freedom, but if there weren't any intellectuals before you, you wouldnt even know what freedom it. The pen IS mightier than the sword. Nazi Germany became Nazi Germany not because of some coup d'etate. The Nazi's got their power from the pen.  If anything the pen gives the sword meaning.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:35:35 AM EDT
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I would like to think yes but one never knows until faced with this challenge.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:37:05 AM EDT
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I won't throw my life away to a cause that has no chance at succeeding. An armed revolution would be doomed from the start.



Crouch down and lick the hand of tyranny.  




I do not intend to lick the hand of any tyrant. I will fight them, but in my own way. A way that has a chance to succeed.



Sometimes an armed revoltion is necessary.  The idea is to get everybody who wants to be free to one state, like Texas, and then declare secession.  You have to be prepared to defend your actions with arms and your life- you can't reason with tyranny.  If each of the Founders each decided to fight them "in their own way", using propaganda or other peaceful means, their rebellion would have been crushed.  




But the founders did fight with propaganda. That is what gave thier fight meaning. The revolution would have been useless without the correct ideology. Common Sense, The Declaration and many other documents first won the minds of the people. Without that no revolution would have been possible.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:39:56 AM EDT
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1. What are you going to do when the only guys who have swords have decided you can't use your pen any more?

2. The insidious problem is that, as some have pointed out, the antis will in all likelihood avoid anything precipitous enough to provoke widespread armed resistance. Rightly or wrongly, most of us would feel pretty stupid when the TV reporter asked "So, you're shooting at policemen because in 30 years your grandkids will have to target shoot with a different type of rifle?" To the best of their ability, they will ensure that we are picked off one at a time, or die off one at a time of old age.


Hahira, Ga. 3/18/14. Federal DHS agents, pictured at left, remove a cache of semiautomatic arms from the home of Delbert Arfcom, Jr. The weapons, all outlawed under the Domestic Security Act of 2010, are believed to have belonged to Arfcom's father, from whom he inherited the house. Police stumbled on the cache when a welfare check requested by neighbors led to the discovery of a disassembled semiautoimatic AR-15 rifle on Arfcom's kitchen table. Neighbors became concerned when Arfcom did not return as expected from a weekend camping trip. Arfcom, presently jailed without bond, faces 650 years in federal prison and $3 million in fines.


There's your real-life confiscation scenario, and it happens right now every time some "kook" in Ca. or Chicago or New England is arrested with Class IIIs or state-banned semis. Are you going to bust Delbert out of jail? Am I? Are we going to start sniping at those enforcing the patently unconstitutional law? This is the question Ross asks and maybe answers in UC. When do we wake up? When do we fight back? How much shit will we eat? I confess that I do not know.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:41:56 AM EDT
[#20]
There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:41:57 AM EDT
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Ok big man.  Hears your chance.
Build an illegal machinegun and then call the ATF.
Tell them the machinegun ban is unconstitutional and you have not intention of following it.

I will watch this evenings news.  



Please.

Just because someone is willing to die for something doesn't mean that they should hasten their death by doing anything as moronic as what you suggested.

The way I see it, the second amendment is intended to help fight against infringements on your other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. If they passed an outright ban on guns, or assault weapons or whatever, I would probably just ignore it. And THEY would probably just ignore me too, until I started speaking out against it. But when they come to shut me up, or stop me from practicing my religion or seize my property for reappropriation, that's when I'd fight back.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:43:44 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



Why, because no one here has ever blown up a police station?
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:45:20 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



Pretty impressive generalization.

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:45:58 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



If you can take a break from jerking off into your clairvoyant Cheerios, you pompous twit, could you give me the Florida lottery numbers for next week?

Be sure to IM a copy of your post to Diesel06, Freefall, and Tallbill. In fact, just copy it to the Hall of Heroes and Deployed fora. You have no idea who or what kind of people you're talking about. I have a good idea what you are, though.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:46:43 AM EDT
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As long as there is Airsoft, there is hope!

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:47:42 AM EDT
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Without your 2nd Am.. Rights, your right to your philosophy, to use your pen, or whatever else is thrown out the window.  2nd Am Right is not a bargining chip to other freedoms, IT'S THE CORNERSTONE!
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:50:22 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.




Do you include yoursef in this statement?
If you exclude yourself, surly there are others.
Pretty broad brush non the less.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:51:42 AM EDT
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I'd shoot it out before being rounded up to a concentration camp like the Jews were.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:52:51 AM EDT
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Ok big man.  Hears your chance.
Build an illegal machinegun and then call the ATF.
Tell them the machinegun ban is unconstitutional and you have not intention of following it.

I will watch this evenings news.  



Please.

Just because someone is willing to die for something doesn't mean that they should hasten their death by doing anything as moronic as what you suggested.

The way I see it, the second amendment is intended to help fight against infringements on your other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. If they passed an outright ban on guns, or assault weapons or whatever, I would probably just ignore it. And THEY would probably just ignore me too, until I started speaking out against it. But when they come to shut me up, or stop me from practicing my religion or seize my property for reappropriation, that's when I'd fight back.



With your guns taken, how would you fight back exactly?  
Rocks?  Sticks?  

The 2nd amendment is basically a fallback in case the other rights are infringed... it's NEEDED to protect those rights.  Without it, the government is capable of easily dispelling our freedom of speech, press, etc...
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:52:56 AM EDT
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I'd shoot it out before being rounded up to a concentration camp like the Jews were.



Or like the Japanese were
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:53:36 AM EDT
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Although I agree generally about the pen statement, I am curious.
If you had a "Mighty Pen" and you were told you coudn't weild it, what woud your recourse be then?
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:53:53 AM EDT
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Ok big man.  Hears your chance.
Build an illegal machinegun and then call the ATF.
Tell them the machinegun ban is unconstitutional and you have not intention of following it.

I will watch this evenings news.  



Please.

Just because someone is willing to die for something doesn't mean that they should hasten their death by doing anything as moronic as what you suggested.

The way I see it, the second amendment is intended to help fight against infringements on your other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. If they passed an outright ban on guns, or assault weapons or whatever, I would probably just ignore it. And THEY would probably just ignore me too, until I started speaking out against it. But when they come to shut me up, or stop me from practicing my religion or seize my property for reappropriation, that's when I'd fight back.



With your guns taken, how would you fight back exactly?  
Rocks?  Sticks?  

The 2nd amendment is basically a fallback in case the other rights are infringed... it's NEEDED to protect those rights.  Without it, the government is capable of easily dispelling our freedom of speech, press, etc...



Learn to read fella
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:54:42 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



The are quite a few veteren members here that would say your full of shit.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:57:03 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



The are quite a few veteren members here that would say your full of shit.



Yeah, me, for one.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:57:32 AM EDT
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let me be the first to say IBTL
I give ten more pages before it turns into a complete pissing match.
But for the time being lets continue having a intelligent debate.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:58:03 AM EDT
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Ok big man.  Hears your chance.
Build an illegal machinegun and then call the ATF.
Tell them the machinegun ban is unconstitutional and you have not intention of following it.

I will watch this evenings news.  



Please.

Just because someone is willing to die for something doesn't mean that they should hasten their death by doing anything as moronic as what you suggested.

The way I see it, the second amendment is intended to help fight against infringements on your other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. If they passed an outright ban on guns, or assault weapons or whatever, I would probably just ignore it. And THEY would probably just ignore me too, until I started speaking out against it. But when they come to shut me up, or stop me from practicing my religion or seize my property for reappropriation, that's when I'd fight back.



With your guns taken, how would you fight back exactly?  
Rocks?  Sticks?  

The 2nd amendment is basically a fallback in case the other rights are infringed... it's NEEDED to protect those rights.  Without it, the government is capable of easily dispelling our freedom of speech, press, etc...



Learn to read fella



Sorry, so you would not relinquish your weapon?  Is that what you're saying.  They're not just going to say, Oh, you don't wanna give it up... ok, well on to the next house boys.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:02:53 AM EDT
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Sorry, so you would not relinquish your weapon?  Is that what you're saying.  They're not just going to say, Oh, you don't wanna give it up... ok, well on to the next house boys.



To be honest with you, I don't think that they will come around house to house. That isn't the way that they have implemented gun bans in other countries, and that isn't the way they have implemented gun bans here.

But in any event, the answer is no I wouldn't turn my guns in and I would just hand them over either.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:04:37 AM EDT
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Sorry, so you would not relinquish your weapon?  Is that what you're saying.  They're not just going to say, Oh, you don't wanna give it up... ok, well on to the next house boys.



To be honest with you, I don't think that they will come around house to house. That isn't the way that they have implemented gun bans in other countries, and that isn't the way they have implemented gun bans here.

But in any event, the answer is no I wouldn't turn my guns in and I would just hand them over either.



Honest question here.  How were the gun bans in other countries typically enacted, and how do you envision (hypothetically) one being enacted here.  



For the record, I don't see one coming anytime soon.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:07:23 AM EDT
[#39]
Words are cheap.  Sure id love to think I'd stand up to those trying to take my guns.  When really, in real life, id probably just hide all of them and wait till they were gone.  Besides "they" is a very subjective term.  Who is they?  The ATF, Police, Military?  How far are you willing to go.  In theory its great to say youll die for a cause, but till the day comes its all just words.  

Not hacking, just being realistic.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:08:23 AM EDT
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I'd shoot it out before being rounded up to a concentration camp like the Jews were.



Or like the Japanese were



Yep, not my fault they didn't fight back
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:10:44 AM EDT
[#41]

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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.




Do you include yoursef in this statement?
If you exclude yourself, surly there are others.
Pretty broad brush non the less.



No!  I am the only one who would fight!  J/K

I posted that same thing three or four years ago when the same question came up.  I just get a kick out of the dopes that don't have the sense to comprehend a MONUMENTALLY SARCASTIC Reply!

No matter how whacky a statement you make, there's at least one fool who will take you serious.  In this case, several!  I love it!
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:11:24 AM EDT
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Sorry, so you would not relinquish your weapon?  Is that what you're saying.  They're not just going to say, Oh, you don't wanna give it up... ok, well on to the next house boys.



To be honest with you, I don't think that they will come around house to house. That isn't the way that they have implemented gun bans in other countries, and that isn't the way they have implemented gun bans here.

But in any event, the answer is no I wouldn't turn my guns in and I would just hand them over either.



Honest question here.  How were the gun bans in other countries typically enacted, and how do you envision (hypothetically) one being enacted here.  



For the record, I don't see one coming anytime soon.  



From what I understand, they first passed registration bills and then outlawed certain types of weapons. People who had those weapons registered had to turn them in.

As people on this site say all the time, 85% of the people who owned assault weapons in CA just ignored the registration requirement. Unless I've missed some really big news, no one has ever gone door-to-door looking for illegal assault weapons in California although the pols have to know that they're out there.

ETA - I don't think that this is anything that we're going to see anytime soon either.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:13:25 AM EDT
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Words are cheap.  Sure id love to think I'd stand up to those trying to take my guns.  When really, in real life, id probably just hide all of them and wait till they were gone.  Besides "they" is a very subjective term.  Who is they?  The ATF, Police, Military?  How far are you willing to go.  In theory its great to say youll die for a cause, but till the day comes its all just words.  

Not hacking, just being realistic.  



There's not enough military, police, national gauard to round up guns in this country.  What they going to do go house by house like Fallujah? Start in the phone book with the letter A and end those with last names in Z?   If my last name started with A I'd stash it in Mr. Z's house,  after raided, I'd get my stash back and let Mr. Z stash his shit in my house.

Call in false tips, etc.   There's still a shitload of terrorists in Fallujah even though the military cleared them out.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:13:37 AM EDT
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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



The are quite a few veteren members here that would say your full of shit.hr


I'm not a veteren member, but if I may, YOUR FULL OF SHIT!  Not one member with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything?  Give me a break.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:13:59 AM EDT
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From what I understand, they first passed registration bills and then outlawed certain types of weapons. People who had those weapons registered had to turn them in.

As people on this site say all the time, 85% of the people who owned assault weapons in CA just ignored the registration requirement. Unless I've missed some really big news, no one has ever gone door-to-door looking for illegal assault weapons in California although the pols have to know that they're out there.



So, short of turning loose an army of JBTs, there is no real way to enforce the ban against a people who want no part of it... sounds like the 2nd Amendment in action!

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:16:45 AM EDT
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By machineguns I define that as like Mg42s or something... now that's a little obssessive and I wouldn't really care about a ban on those things.  If you're not Mil you don't need one, if you want to "collect" one then have one that has necesarry components removed so it won't fire.

Assault/Handgun/Shotgun/Rifle are all ok and Id fight for those in my book.



Something I never thought I would read here.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:18:58 AM EDT
[#47]

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There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.




Do you include yoursef in this statement?
If you exclude yourself, surly there are others.
Pretty broad brush non the less.



No!  I am the only one who would fight!  J/K

I posted that same thing three or four years ago when the same question came up.  I just get a kick out of the dopes that don't have the sense to comprehend a MONUMENTALLY SARCASTIC Reply!

No matter how whacky a statement you make, there's at least one fool who will take you serious.  In this case, several!  I love it!




Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:20:37 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
There's not one member here with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything.



The are quite a few veteren members here that would say your full of shit.



I'm not a veteren member, but if I may, YOUR FULL OF SHIT!  Not one member with the testicular fortitude to fight for anything?  Give me a break.



IDIOT!  You missed my explanation above!  Once again, for the not too bright!  IT IS A SARCASTIC REMARK!
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:20:48 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
I posted that same thing three or four years ago when the same question came up.  I just get a kick out of the dopes that don't have the sense to comprehend a MONUMENTALLY SARCASTIC Reply!

No matter how whacky a statement you make, there's at least one fool who will take you serious.  In this case, several!  I love it!




Wow!  The sarcasm just drips off your typing!  We are so dumb to not get it right away!  Way to go!



HOW IS THAT FOR SARCASM?  

ETA:  Here's an idea; contribute something intelligent to the thread instead of making fun of us non-literate humor-impaired morons.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:21:36 AM EDT
[#50]

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Yes.  But I also believe that if or when that day comes, they will tell you all (and the world) that I was a terrorist white supremacist child pornographer arms dealer lunatic, and most of you (and the world) will say that I got what I deserved.  Only I, God, and a few good people will know the truth.



This is what I fear too.  
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