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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:51:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAlmost like he was being sarcastic or something
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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:57:02 AM EDT
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News this morning says she was shot from inside patrol car by the 2nd officer as she was talking to the driver.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:57:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:57:54 AM EDT
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Damn
And hardly anyone will ever know about her. 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:59:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:00:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:03:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:03:23 AM EDT
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Aussies gonna riot!!!
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:04:03 AM EDT
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You posted that in both threads. What's BS? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:05:08 AM EDT
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That she called the police and then was shot dead for no reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:07:29 AM EDT
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Suicide by cop? |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:10:16 AM EDT
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Suicide by cop? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:12:32 AM EDT
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I will make a GUESS as to how it went down.
Woman in PJs approaches car. Pussy cop in passenger seat draws weapon "for their own safety". While the woman is talking to the driver cop, the passenger cop has a negligent discharge, striking the woman. From reports, bullet may have even gone thru door. No bodycams were on because they are normally activated when cops exit the vehicle. Penalty if my guess is true.......... hopefully, involuntary manslaughter. Never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to kill. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:21:41 AM EDT
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I will make a GUESS as to how it went down. Woman in PJs approaches car. Pussy cop in passenger seat draws weapon "for their own safety". While the woman is talking to the driver cop, the passenger cop has a negligent discharge, striking the woman. From reports, bullet may have even gone thru door. No bodycams were on because they are normally activated when cops exit the vehicle. Penalty if my guess is true.......... hopefully, involuntary manslaughter. Never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to kill. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:34:12 AM EDT
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That's some mighty fine police work Lou
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:34:17 AM EDT
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This is not going to end well. I guarantee you that the cop's fucked this one up. I really am not buying that she was somehow a threat or tried to pull a gun and they were forced to shoot her. I'm going out on a limb, and guessing it was an accidental discharge of some kind. Where's the ARFcom that insists that the person who got shot was a thug and that the cop was doing his duty protecting and serving? 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:36:59 AM EDT
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I'll make a guess that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Much police dindunuffin! |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:38:40 AM EDT
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Stop sucking copper cock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And neither do you but you jump to defend the cops. Much police dindunuffin! |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:40:34 AM EDT
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Okay, you are correct. We do NOT yet know why he did not use the equipment provided. Hopefully we get more information soon. That said, one of the reasons we give officers this equipment is to allow more objective oversight of use of force incidents. Officers who fail to use this equipment should not receive any of the normal protections their profession traditionally offers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, we don't know he "failed to use the equipment he was provided"... unless its policy for them to continually have the camera on AT ALL TIMES... Some agencies have policies stating when the officers are the activate the cameras. They don't continually run them 8 hrs straight. They may not automatically have them on while sitting in their patrol car. Think it may be possible something transpired so quickly it didn't occur to him that he should take time to turn on a camera.. "If the article is correct"... If I remember correctly, article states "sources" stated the passenger officer shot her through the drivers door, while she was talking to the driver (officer)?? I'll wait for more info 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:40:44 AM EDT
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We're obviously missing some key pieces of information. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:43:07 AM EDT
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But constructing elaborate, baseless, hypothetical scenarios, then arguing violently over them, is so much fun.......... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We're obviously missing some key pieces of information. 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:43:08 AM EDT
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Do White Lives Matter?
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:44:08 AM EDT
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You sure are overly emotional about this. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:46:12 AM EDT
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I'm just shocked you said something other than lol. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:46:59 AM EDT
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Don't worry, your teenage angst is giving me some entertainment this morning. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:51:56 AM EDT
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I'll wait before making a judgment on this one.
On one hand, this sounds like it could have been an ND. On the other, those "spiritual healer" types are always batshit crazy.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:54:39 AM EDT
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I want to print this story out and rub Colin Noir's nose in it.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:55:31 AM EDT
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If I had to guess, I'd say yet another example of panicky, poorly trained police officer going into fear mode and plugging her. From the sound of the article the shooting happened while the officer was IN the car. It's possible she went in through the window and was trying to beat the driver to death, forcing the passenger to shoot her. I would bet, however, that she was slightly amped, approached the cruiser with at least one poorly trained, unsuitable officer in it who was also amped and he/she had a different perception of the woman's actions and demeanor than she intended. I would also guess that she probably had a cell phone in her hand and in the dark the officer thought the cell phone was a gun.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:57:51 AM EDT
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Where did I miss "Don't invite the Man into your life"
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Posted: 7/17/2017 8:58:44 AM EDT
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Let's not jump to conclusions. I'm not convinced it's a bogus shoot yet. Surely there's some kind of evidence here isn't there?
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:01:59 AM EDT
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Not only is it a crime for me to drive without insurance, it is a crime for me to drive without PROOF of having insurance.
Not only is it a crime for me to drive without a drivers license, it is a crime for me to drive without said license in my possession. I could go on and on. In my opinion, it should be a crime for an officer who has been issued a body cam to not have it turned on and working. There will ALWAYS be doubt in my mind that it was erased to cover up something. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:03:41 AM EDT
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As long as we're tossing stuff out, let's say:
since she was apparently able to float through the house, she was floating in the alley. The officer thought she was some ghost demon and fired. Good shoot. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:04:25 AM EDT
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"kind of flowed through the house so lightly"???  |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:04:33 AM EDT
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Not only is it a crime for me to drive without insurance, it is a crime for me to drive without PROOF of having insurance. Not only is it a crime for me to drive without a drivers license, it is a crime for me to drive without said license in my possession. I could go on and on. In my opinion, it should be a crime for an officer who has been issued a body cam to not have it turned on and working. There will ALWAYS be doubt in my mind that it was erased to cover up something. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:04:51 AM EDT
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I'll make a guess that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will make a GUESS as to how it went down. Woman in PJs approaches car. Pussy cop in passenger seat draws weapon "for their own safety". While the woman is talking to the driver cop, the passenger cop has a negligent discharge, striking the woman. From reports, bullet may have even gone thru door. No bodycams were on because they are normally activated when cops exit the vehicle. Penalty if my guess is true.......... hopefully, involuntary manslaughter. Never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to kill. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:05:36 AM EDT
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Okay, you are correct. We do NOT yet know why he did not use the equipment provided. Hopefully we get more information soon. That said, one of the reasons we give officers this equipment is to allow more objective oversight of use of force incidents. Officers who fail to use this equipment should not receive any of the normal protections their profession traditionally offers. And that's coming from someone who loved having one (and an in-car camera) because inevitably, it always showed that exactly what I said happened, actually happened. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:06:26 AM EDT
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"kind of flowed through the house so lightly"??? In other words, she was such a gentle person how on earth could anyone perceive her as a threat? |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:10:11 AM EDT
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Not only is it a crime for me to drive without insurance, it is a crime for me to drive without PROOF of having insurance. Not only is it a crime for me to drive without a drivers license, it is a crime for me to drive without said license in my possession. I could go on and on. In my opinion, it should be a crime for an officer who has been issued a body cam to not have it turned on and working. There will ALWAYS be doubt in my mind that it was erased to cover up something. Body cameras are only as good as the technology allows. Most departments have very very specific body camera policies. It's extremely cost prohibitive to have body cameras running for the entirety of officers shifts. The data is too large and there is too much of it to be managed without having multiple fulltime employees dedicated to sorting it, servers dedicated to hosting it, and an entire office dedicated to redacting/dispersing it under freedom of information act requests. Most policies I have seen say that the officers should activate the body cameras when taking enforcement action. Other policies I've seen say any interaction with the public. Most if not all body cameras I've tried have to be manually activated so there will always be that element of human or mechanical error. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:11:59 AM EDT
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I'm still curious why in the hell you would move from Australia to Minnesota
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:15:30 AM EDT
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I'm still curious why in the hell you would move from Australia to Minnesota |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:25:38 AM EDT
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Big fucking deal. QI is not automatically granted in most of the 9th Circuit, anyways. So, NYAH. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:32:29 AM EDT
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I thought QI was the standard that was in effect unless it is revoked. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:38:38 AM EDT
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I say we march Nordstroms, who's with me?
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:40:00 AM EDT
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It's MN. Can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Spiritual healer"? Cops are shooting hippies now? 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 9:51:32 AM EDT
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Most probable scenario:
1: Cop in passenger seat was startled 2: drew WITHOUT INDENDING ON PULLING THE TRIGGER 3: accidentally DID PULL THE TRIGGER on a probably Glock 17 5.5lb trigger I'm also curious the neighborhood, this sounds like a inner city? Probably more reason to be suspicious in that area. Also wouldn't be shocked if it was minority cops. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:01:26 AM EDT
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Most probable scenario: 1: Cop in passenger seat was startled 2: drew WITHOUT INDENDING ON PULLING THE TRIGGER 3: accidentally DID PULL THE TRIGGER on a probably Glock 17 5.5lb trigger I'm also curious the neighborhood, this sounds like a inner city? Probably more reason to be suspicious in that area. Also wouldn't be shocked if it was minority cops. It borders the southwest corner of Lake Hariet if you want to pull up the area on streetview |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:03:54 AM EDT
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I am sure it is just an innocent mistake after all she was in her PJs and he easily could have mistook her pookies as weapons if the nipples were long enough.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:04:12 AM EDT
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Let's not jump to conclusions. I'm not convinced it's a bogus shoot yet. Surely there's some kind of evidence here isn't there? 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:09:14 AM EDT
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I read the story at the link and all of the comments here, still don't have a clue as to what happened. I don't want to speculate because there are no details of what occurred and I think to speculate or hypothesize only makes matters more confusing. Until the Minneapolis police department releases it's information on this we just don't know what happened.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:09:49 AM EDT
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If the officer's body camera was turned off or disabled he should automatically lose qualified immunity (along with whatever charges potentially result) and be terminated. |
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