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So, were you born in '77 or wearing the uniform in '77?
I can't believe you served back then and could ask that question.

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Time to start "buzzing" Russian ships

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How much of the Russian "canned sunshine" or ours for that matter would even get off the ground 50% 20%?  that stuff is old and maintenance is expensive.

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In the 1980's I was stationed aboard USS Midway. She was convention carrier (not nuclear) who's keel was laid down in WWII.

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In the 1980's I was stationed aboard USS Midway. She was convention carrier (not nuclear) who's keel was laid down in WWII.

In order for a carrier to launch and recover aircraft when it's windy the ship turns into the wind. There was a Russian destroyer that was shadowing us preventing us from making the turn into the wind. Since Midway weighed a factor of 20 times more than the destroyer the "law of gross tonnage" dictates that they're suppose to get out of our way. They wouldn't and every time we'd speed up they would. So we took our plane guard and did a little basketball move call the pick-n-roll. Our plane guard which was a little frigate got between us and the Russian and we rolled down wind. The frigate kept the larger destroyer at bay while we made enough distance to turn into the wind and launch. Once the Phantoms and Intruders were up they put on a little airshow for the Russians.

One of our armed helo's hovered off the deck of the Russian destroyer flying backwards with the rotor blades likely not more than 20-30 feet from the bridge of the Russian. The helo was well over the top of the deck of the Russian. This was a distraction for the Russian crew as a pair of F-4 Phantom II's climbed up and out of sight into the clouds +25,000 feet up. The Phantoms then turned and started a dive down towards the Russian. The helicopter broke and flew back towards and then behind Midway seconds before the pair of Phantoms now flying + Mach 1 broke the sound barrier over the Russians. The skipper of Midway passed the word on the 1MC PA system giving us a few seconds warning. A pair of fighters breaking the sound barrier 100 to 200 feet away is louder than anything I've ever heard before or since in my life. It makes a short barrel rifle sound like a pop gun. Tons and tons of energy shaking the Russian ship and crew. Seconds later a pair of armed Intruders flew by the Russians loaded with anti-ship missiles. They flew straight and level just above the wave tops until passing the destroyer where they flipped up and rolled exposing their underbelly and all the weapons to the Russians.

They left us alone after than circus. As ship's video photographer I took video of everything. I wasn't back down in my shop for more than five minutes looking over the footage when the intelligence officer came in and took the video tape.

Back in the 1980's the Russian Bears and Badgers would come out on simulated cruise missile attacks and that made the news. What didn't make the news was that our E-2 Hawkeyes caught the inbound bomber formation +200 miles away (but that's well within their missile range) and vectored our CAP (combat air patrol) to escort the bombers in and out. I had photos taken by our fighter pilots of the Russians and American aircrews clowning with each other. A tail gunner on a Russian aircraft holding up a can of Coke and giving the thumbs up. A pair of F-4's flying with their wingtips almost touching the Russian aircraft. A Russian pilot holding up a sign saying Hi! and giving a thumbs up.

Aircraft know it's suicide to approach within Standard Missile range of one of our warships.

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It would be an act of war.

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flying in close proximity to ships in a threatening manner is also an act of war.

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Time to start "buzzing" Russian ships

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It is WAY more complicated than you're making it out to be.  This has also been happening since the Cold War.  Don't get your panties in a bunch.

You're out of your league, Donnie.

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In the 1980's I was stationed aboard USS Midway. She was convention carrier (not nuclear) who's keel was laid down in WWII.

In order for a carrier to launch and recover aircraft when it's windy the ship turns into the wind. There was a Russian destroyer that was shadowing us preventing us from making the turn into the wind. Since Midway weighed a factor of 20 times more than the destroyer the "law of gross tonnage" dictates that they're suppose to get out of our way. They wouldn't and every time we'd speed up they would. So we took our plane guard and did a little basketball move call the pick-n-roll. Our plane guard which was a little frigate got between us and the Russian and we rolled down wind. The frigate kept the larger destroyer at bay while we made enough distance to turn into the wind and launch. Once the Phantoms and Intruders were up they put on a little airshow for the Russians.

One of our armed helo's hovered off the deck of the Russian destroyer flying backwards with the rotor blades likely not more than 20-30 feet from the bridge of the Russian. The helo was well over the top of the deck of the Russian. This was a distraction for the Russian crew as a pair of F-4 Phantom II's climbed up and out of sight into the clouds +25,000 feet up. The Phantoms then turned and started a dive down towards the Russian. The helicopter broke and flew back towards and then behind Midway seconds before the pair of Phantoms now flying + Mach 1 broke the sound barrier over the Russians. The skipper of Midway passed the word on the 1MC PA system giving us a few seconds warning. A pair of fighters breaking the sound barrier 100 to 200 feet away is louder than anything I've ever heard before or since in my life. It makes a short barrel rifle sound like a pop gun. Tons and tons of energy shaking the Russian ship and crew. Seconds later a pair of armed Intruders flew by the Russians loaded with anti-ship missiles. They flew straight and level just above the wave tops until passing the destroyer where they flipped up and rolled exposing their underbelly and all the weapons to the Russians.

They left us alone after than circus. As ship's video photographer I took video of everything. I wasn't back down in my shop for more than five minutes looking over the footage when the intelligence officer came in and took the video tape.

Back in the 1980's the Russian Bears and Badgers would come out on simulated cruise missile attacks and that made the news. What didn't make the news was that our E-2 Hawkeyes caught the inbound bomber formation +200 miles away (but that's well within their missile range) and vectored our CAP (combat air patrol) to escort the bombers in and out. I had photos taken by our fighter pilots of the Russians and American aircrews clowning with each other. A tail gunner on a Russian aircraft holding up a can of Coke and giving the thumbs up. A pair of F-4's flying with their wingtips almost touching the Russian aircraft. A Russian pilot holding up a sign saying Hi! and giving a thumbs up.

Aircraft know it's suicide to approach within Standard Missile range of one of our warships.

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It would be an act of war.

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Because history teaches us that it is not a good idea to shoot at Russians unless you absolutely have to.

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Any commander has the right to protect his ship yet ours are letting the Russians shit all over us, putting their ships at risk, and doing nothing except sharply worded complaints. This is what happens when you have a pussy as commander in Chief. They know if they shoot down the Ruskie pussy Obama will kill their career's, probably prosecute them, and apologize before all the world for all American hostile actions past and present. This is what happens when you get an America hating pussy as a President.

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A good solid radar lock would solve this problem. No shots would need to be fired.

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My father was a sub sailor during the Cold War.  He says that there were constant shenanigans on both sides.