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Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:18:21 AM EDT
[#1]

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, replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable, .



True for all Sigs.

Baffles me how Sig could put those useless sights on a quality gun.



Why I always get night sights.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:21:53 AM EDT
[#2]


Recently added a 230 to the bunch. Yeah Yeah

I prefer shooting my 226 over the rest but my 220 is my favorite to carry.
Almost exclusively wear CompTac (kydex) holsters and open top mag pouches.
The corner of the 226 mags (plates) when exposed; can poke into your side while driving/stopping/bending.
The 220 mags all have a coated plates (plastic, I think) and have rounded corners that tend to be
more comfortable to wear for extended periods of time.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:19:28 AM EDT
[#3]

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, replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable, .



True for all Sigs.

Baffles me how Sig could put those useless sights on a quality gun.



Why I always get night sights.



I've recently begun changing out the stock sights on my handguns for Heine "blackout" sights - no dots, no tritium, no nothing. Just a front post and a rear notch.

I don't want to be aligning dots when I shoot, just the sights themselves.



Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:51:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Regarding the older stamped/folded slide SIGs, I too like them the best.
I've had no rust issues, they seem to balance better and just look better IMO.
Of my five SIGs four are stamped/folded and one is the newer stainless version.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 10:31:28 AM EDT
[#5]

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I've recently begun changing out the stock sights on my handguns for Heine "blackout" sights - no dots, no tritium, no nothing. Just a front post and a rear notch.

I don't want to be aligning dots when I shoot, just the sights themselves.



But if you aren't at a well-lit range or shooting in broad daylight?...
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:02:11 AM EDT
[#6]

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I've recently begun changing out the stock sights on my handguns for Heine "blackout" sights - no dots, no tritium, no nothing. Just a front post and a rear notch.

I don't want to be aligning dots when I shoot, just the sights themselves.



But if you aren't at a well-lit range or shooting in broad daylight?...



That's what God made Surefires for.

You get a FAR better sight picture with the blacked out sights silouetted in white light than some green dots in the pitch dark.



Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:08:54 AM EDT
[#7]
I have a 226 and a 228, both Duracoated to halt rust. Rust is a big problem in SIgs, especially if you carry them. You shouldn't get a 226 because you should get a 228 or a 229 if you want a .40. Both the 228 and the 229 are more comfortable carry weapons. The 228 will take 226 mags.

Whatever SIG you get, you need to get it Duracoated.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:29:47 AM EDT
[#8]

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, replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable, .



True for all Sigs.

Baffles me how Sig could put those useless sights on a quality gun.



I like the to dot the i, it is very fast and easy to line up. Much faster than lining up three dots or the top of the sights. But as always use what works best for you.

YMMV

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:09:32 PM EDT
[#9]

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That's what God made Surefires for.

You get a FAR better sight picture with the blacked out sights silouetted in white light than some green dots in the pitch dark.



Well, in pitch-black, sure, you will need illumination. But under typical evening street conditions, it isn't pitch black. 3-dot tritium sights can only help you line up your sights; don't get cheap on us now!
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:11:35 PM EDT
[#10]

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Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go.  The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



There is nothing wrong with the older stamped carbon steel slides.  They are very durable.  Sig went to stainless steel to cut down on manufacturing costs.  The militaries M11(Sig P228) is still a stamped slide, and it is reliable enough for them.  There are plenty of older P226s in the SeAL arsenals.



The newer stainless slides are more costly to produce, in both material (solid billet stainless steel) and process (miling, vs stamping, welding and pinning).  And the older models are, indeed, rust monsters.  You'll usually see this around the barrel because of holster wear.  Mine rusted deep when I left the country for a few months.  Mac's GunKote fixed it for me.

However, the newer SS models are somewhat heavier.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:31:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Currently, there are at least 60 reasons why you should.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:39:33 PM EDT
[#12]

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Well, in pitch-black, sure, you will need illumination. But under typical evening street conditions, it isn't pitch black. 3-dot tritium sights can only help you line up your sights; don't get cheap on us now!



The three dots (tritium or otherwise) seem to me to be a distraction.

I spend more time focusing on the dots than on the target.

Which is a good way to miss your target.


Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:47:01 PM EDT
[#13]

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I have a 226 and a 228, both Duracoated to halt rust. Rust is a big problem in SIgs, especially if you carry them. You shouldn't get a 226 because you should get a 228 or a 229 if you want a .40. Both the 228 and the 229 are more comfortable carry weapons. The 228 will take 226 mags.

Whatever SIG you get, you need to get it Duracoated.




Ok, I have a Beretta 96, which I did a trigger job and replaced the springs. The thing is awesome. But finding a "good" barrel to attach a silencer to it is a BIG hassle. Finding or loading good subsonic .40 rounds = That's why the 9mm Sig. The Beretta 92 is "ok", but it's a bit big. I have small hands.

So the problems with the Sig 226 for me, from what I am reading.
- I have small hands, fit will be an issue and so will be the reach.
- After I buy the thing, I'll have to get it duracoated, even though it's brand new.
- It doesn't have rails, so a M3 light or M6 light is out of the question.

The pros are...
- I can get a can for it.
- It's good quality and will last a long time.


AUGGGGGH!!!! Now I'm confused. Get one and suffer or don't and be pissed at myself.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:50:57 PM EDT
[#14]

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Well, in pitch-black, sure, you will need illumination. But under typical evening street conditions, it isn't pitch black. 3-dot tritium sights can only help you line up your sights; don't get cheap on us now!



The three dots (tritium or otherwise) seem to me to be a distraction.

I spend more time focusing on the dots than on the target.

Which is a good way to miss your target.





Eh. Training would easily take care of over-focusing on the sights.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:54:39 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm in:



Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:57:59 PM EDT
[#16]

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Eh. Training would easily take care of over-focusing on the sights.



That's like the Glock guys.

"Glocks are great - all you gotta do is re-learn how to shoot."

No thanks.




Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:59:06 PM EDT
[#17]

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Eh. Training would easily take care of over-focusing on the sights.



That's like the Glock guys.



Hey, I didn't insult you, so don't insult me!

(J/K, lest the Minions of Glock smite me.)
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:02:23 PM EDT
[#18]

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Eh. Training would easily take care of over-focusing on the sights.



That's like the Glock guys.



Hey, I didn't insult you, so don't insult me!

(J/K, lest the Minions of Glock smite me.)





OK, sorry man, that WAS below the belt.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:03:49 PM EDT
[#19]

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I have a 226 and a 228, both Duracoated to halt rust. Rust is a big problem in SIgs, especially if you carry them. You shouldn't get a 226 because you should get a 228 or a 229 if you want a .40. Both the 228 and the 229 are more comfortable carry weapons. The 228 will take 226 mags.

Whatever SIG you get, you need to get it Duracoated.




Ok, I have a Beretta 96, which I did a trigger job and replaced the springs. The thing is awesome. But finding a "good" barrel to attach a silencer to it is a BIG hassle. Finding or loading good subsonic .40 rounds = That's why the 9mm Sig. The Beretta 92 is "ok", but it's a bit big. I have small hands.

So the problems with the Sig 226 for me, from what I am reading.
- I have small hands, fit will be an issue and so will be the reach.
- After I buy the thing, I'll have to get it duracoated, even though it's brand new.
- It doesn't have rails, so a M3 light or M6 light is out of the question.

The pros are...
- I can get a can for it.
- It's good quality and will last a long time.


AUGGGGGH!!!! Now I'm confused. Get one and suffer or don't and be pissed at myself.

You don't need to get it duracoated.  The Navy model is corrosion resistant better yet the Blackwater has everything that the Navy has plus rails and really nice grips.

A just about all Sigs will have a stainless steel finish.  Go and fondle one yourself, if it isn't best balanced, best feeling pistol you have ever handled pick up a 228 or 229.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:09:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Just picked up my 229 about 6 wks ago or so.  Love it.

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:15:37 PM EDT
[#21]
I'll be a dissenting opinion. Other than the 225 and 220, the Sig is WAY to wide. The grip has a lovehandle right at the top, near the slide stop. I cannot shoot thumbs high without wearing a hole in my thumb.

That being said, the 228/229/226 do NOT work for me and my shooting style.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:30:33 PM EDT
[#22]

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I'll be a dissenting opinion. Other than the 225 and 220, the Sig is WAY to wide. The grip has a lovehandle right at the top, near the slide stop. I cannot shoot thumbs high without wearing a hole in my thumb.

That being said, the 228/229/226 do NOT work for me and my shooting style.




Like this?




Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:36:48 PM EDT
[#23]

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I'll be a dissenting opinion. Other than the 225 and 220, the Sig is WAY to wide. The grip has a lovehandle right at the top, near the slide stop. I cannot shoot thumbs high without wearing a hole in my thumb.

That being said, the 228/229/226 do NOT work for me and my shooting style.




Like this?

www.mattcapron.com/familypics/IM001972.jpg






haha, only when im in the hood, yo

Naa, I just ride thumbs high, its a BHP thing
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:41:37 PM EDT
[#24]

get one.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:25:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:32:10 PM EDT
[#26]

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fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0CF0557D-B1D7-49D7-BC3B-2DB1A25D44AA}
get one.



where is the can for that Tactical?


waiting on the form 4....same thing for my hk usp45 tactical.
Im too tactical for my shorts.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:34:35 PM EDT
[#27]

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fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0CF0557D-B1D7-49D7-BC3B-2DB1A25D44AA}
get one.



where is the can for that Tactical?


waiting on the form 4....same thing for my hk usp45 tactical.
Im too tactical for my shorts.



You and I both, did you get in on the GB on the AAC evolution 9 with the same serial number as the tactical?

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:35:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Because it's not a Glock
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:35:51 PM EDT
[#29]

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fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0CF0557D-B1D7-49D7-BC3B-2DB1A25D44AA}
get one.



where is the can for that Tactical?


waiting on the form 4....same thing for my hk usp45 tactical.
Im too tactical for my shorts.



You and I both, did you get in on the GB on the AAC evolution 9 with the same serial number as the tactical?




Negatory. Sounds like I should have though.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:42:28 PM EDT
[#30]
m

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fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0CF0557D-B1D7-49D7-BC3B-2DB1A25D44AA}
get one.



where is the can for that Tactical?


waiting on the form 4....same thing for my hk usp45 tactical.
Im too tactical for my shorts.



You and I both, did you get in on the GB on the AAC evolution 9 with the same serial number as the tactical?




Negatory. Sounds like I should have though.



When I get it it will be one of four, out of the 319.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:49:08 PM EDT
[#31]
A P226 DAK will be one one my next 5 firearm purchases.

Edit - Probably what I'll get when I return from Iraq.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:40:32 PM EDT
[#32]
The SIG Family.

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:09:05 PM EDT
[#33]
You B*@#%@DS!

I went and fondled one today at lunch. I fingered the 226 in 9mm and .40, then the 229 in .40.

The 226 and 229 in.40....

Now I want to shoot one.  

Both of those fit my hands perfectly and niiiiiiice trigger pull. Very smooth.

And NOW I WANT ONE!

Why do they make some many nice firearms?

I hope the tax man is very, very kind to me this year.






So what's a good price on a P226R DAK? And who has the best prices on them? I can get it transfered if the price is right.

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:14:32 PM EDT
[#34]
I own a 226 and a 220. And I just added another 226 to the family today.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:16:54 PM EDT
[#35]

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You B*@#%@DS!

I went and fondled one today at lunch. I fingered the 226 in 9mm and .40, then the 229 in .40.

The 226 and 229 in.40....

Now I want to shoot one.  

Both of those fit my hands perfectly and niiiiiiice trigger pull. Very smooth.

And NOW I WANT ONE!

Why do they make some many nice firearms?

I hope the tax man is very, very kind to me this year.






So what's a good price on a P226R DAK?




Whichever one you get, get the Hogue wraparound grips.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:17:24 PM EDT
[#36]

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I own a 226 and a 220. And I just added another 226 to the family today.



220, 226 9mm, 228.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:32:19 PM EDT
[#37]
The Hogue rubber grips will increase the grip width.

Hogue also makes quality aftermarket wood grips. Check their blemish and defects page for discounts.

Nills makes the finest wood grips but you'll pay.

Coco wood grips on a brushed stainless SIG has to be the classiest looking DA/SA gun out there. Heavy as a pig but it looks nice.

I took the hogue rubber off my P220 stainless and replaced it with factory plastic P220 grips and was much happier.

YMMV
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:37:14 PM EDT
[#38]

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The Hogue rubber grips will increase the grip width.

Hogue also makes quality aftermarket wood grips. Check their blemish and defects page for discounts.

Nills makes the finest wood grips but you'll pay.

Coco wood grips on a brushed stainless SIG has to be the classiest looking DA/SA gun out there. Heavy as a pig but it looks nice.

I took the hogue rubber off my P220 stainless and replaced it with factory plastic P220 grips and was much happier.

YMMV



I have Hogues on all 3 of my Sigs and am much happier.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:39:21 PM EDT
[#39]

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I have a 226 and a 228, both Duracoated to halt rust. Rust is a big problem in SIgs, especially if you carry them. You shouldn't get a 226 because you should get a 228 or a 229 if you want a .40. Both the 228 and the 229 are more comfortable carry weapons. The 228 will take 226 mags.

Whatever SIG you get, you need to get it Duracoated.



My 228 will not take my 226 mags.  Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

In the spirit of Arfcom, get both.  I have both a 228 and 226, both in 9mm.  Carry both, though not at the same time.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:44:38 PM EDT
[#40]

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I have a 226 and a 228, both Duracoated to halt rust. Rust is a big problem in SIgs, especially if you carry them. You shouldn't get a 226 because you should get a 228 or a 229 if you want a .40. Both the 228 and the 229 are more comfortable carry weapons. The 228 will take 226 mags.

Whatever SIG you get, you need to get it Duracoated.



My 228 will not take my 226 mags.  Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

In the spirit of Arfcom, get both.  I have both a 228 and 226, both in 9mm.  Carry both, though not at the same time.




I have a P229 and have both the .40 and .357 barrels and I love it, now I need to get one with a rail on it.  
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:56:31 PM EDT
[#41]

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The Hogue rubber grips will increase the grip width.

Hogue also makes quality aftermarket wood grips. Check their blemish and defects page for discounts.

Nills makes the finest wood grips but you'll pay.

Coco wood grips on a brushed stainless SIG has to be the classiest looking DA/SA gun out there. Heavy as a pig but it looks nice.

I took the hogue rubber off my P220 stainless and replaced it with factory plastic P220 grips and was much happier.

YMMV



I have Hogues on all 3 of my Sigs and am much happier.



Remember though, if you plan to carry the gun concealed, the Hogue rubbers tend to be sticky, particularly to clothing you'd prefer would cover the gun. My cover shirt stuck to my 220ST and though I didn't know it, I was showing my beautiful 220 to all of Walmart. Didn't find out until my wife told me in the parking lot.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:07:50 PM EDT
[#42]

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Quoted:

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The Hogue rubber grips will increase the grip width.

Hogue also makes quality aftermarket wood grips. Check their blemish and defects page for discounts.

Nills makes the finest wood grips but you'll pay.

Coco wood grips on a brushed stainless SIG has to be the classiest looking DA/SA gun out there. Heavy as a pig but it looks nice.

I took the hogue rubber off my P220 stainless and replaced it with factory plastic P220 grips and was much happier.

YMMV



I have Hogues on all 3 of my Sigs and am much happier.



Remember though, if you plan to carry the gun concealed, the Hogue rubbers tend to be sticky, particularly to clothing you'd prefer would cover the gun. My cover shirt stuck to my 220ST and though I didn't know it, I was showing my beautiful 220 to all of Walmart. Didn't find out until my wife told me in the parking lot.



I noticed the sticky rubber issue too but the main problem was having close to 3 pounds of stainless on one spot of my belt. Kept pulling my pants down. Other than that a great firearm. It just isn't a CCW.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:13:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:21:09 PM EDT
[#44]

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Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM







I love your avatar too! Reminds me of Rogers Rangers.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:21:50 PM EDT
[#45]

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Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 8:14:32 PM EDT
[#46]
I bought a 226 a month ago.  Great pistol.  There is a reason so many agencies issue this sidearm.

I find myself field stripping it just to look at the inner workings and I am very impressed with the level of engineering that must have been used to develop this gun.

What are your holster recommendations? (concealed)  Most people have pointed me to galco, but I would be interested to hear any thoughts.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 8:19:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Good deals are to be had with police trade-ins.. like $350 for a used, dirty P226 9mm that needs a nice cleaning, and has slight holster wear.

I hate my dealer.. he keeps getting in cool stuff and makes me want to but it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:19:38 AM EDT
[#48]

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Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM



Not to mess with you, but....


I'd get a 226 for ALOT of reasons.

CCW is NOT among them.

Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:25:11 AM EDT
[#49]

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Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM



Not to mess with you, but....


I'd get a 226 for ALOT of reasons.

CCW is NOT among them.


Yeah but he lives in Minnesota, he will only be hampered with it 3 months out of the year instead of 7.  Plus once he sees that it isn't the best CCW he will have an excuse to go out and get a 228 or 229
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:28:00 AM EDT
[#50]

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Thanks lippo you just made up my mind for my CCW handgun.

Sig P226 Navy it is.

Did some investigation, and I'm finally settled.


GM



Not to mess with you, but....


I'd get a 226 for ALOT of reasons.

CCW is NOT among them.




What....don't tell me you're gonna say it's too big.

I carry a G21 and I aint a huge dude.  Right holster, right belt, no worries.

I have a 226 and if that was what I carried on duty, then I'd carry it off-duty and be perfectly happy.

In fact....I'd probably be happier than I am now.  I love my G21 and it's been a fantastic gun both on and off-duty, but my Sigs all feel/point better.  Fucking ass-backwards Dept SOPs.


Sheep
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