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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:32:32 PM EDT
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Because we invaded Germany and freed the people in the concentration camps, and took pictures of it. 1) We saw it first hand 2) It was a "white" European country, and therefore inexorably tied deeply to our own history 3) The Germans made the most efficient human extermination infrastructure known to man Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and others just aren't as closely tied to our history. The Germans just took notes. Made them seem efficient. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:34:47 PM EDT
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Germans aren't really very efficient compared to those other three. Mao beat out Stalin for the numbers, Pol Pot went for overall percentage of the population and tried to get graded on a curve. The Germans just took notes. Made them seem efficient. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:35:34 PM EDT
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The fact that the Soviet Union was our ally in WWII probably has something to do with it. Leftover "Uncle Joe" propaganda + post-WWII American leftism = less criticism for Stalin.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:44:37 PM EDT
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The Germans killed 70% of the European Jewish population in three years. Germany had a population around 70 million. They killed around 6 million of their own people as war dead by starting a war, and assuming 6 million that they exterminated (Jews, gypsies, dissidents, etc.), they still only managed to kill about 17% of their population. If you go with the high estimates of 10 million in the holocaust, you're still only looking at about 22-23%. Mind you I'm looking at this as how much human suffering they caused, not to any individual group - though I understand what you're getting at. Even if we address it that way, though, communists are still more lethal. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:49:51 PM EDT
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The fact that the Soviet Union was our ally in WWII probably has something to do with it. Leftover "Uncle Joe" propaganda + post-WWII American leftism = less criticism for Stalin. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:56:33 PM EDT
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Amazon says communism is sexy.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:01:44 PM EDT
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They always seemed like the same guy to me. Odd that they don't get equal billing.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:08:14 PM EDT
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They always seemed like the same guy to me. Odd that they don't get equal billing. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:10:56 PM EDT
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Stalin did not intend/set out to eradicate groups of people. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:11:58 PM EDT
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More than a 100 million, more like 150+ million dead just in the 20th Century alone. The Chi-coms openly admit that 77 million died during their cultural revolution and the Ruskis killed around 52-55 million. That's around 130 million dead for just two commie nations. Add in Pol Pot, the Viet-cong, Kim Il Sung and Kim Jung Il, the Cubans, etc and you'll get 150+ million easy.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:14:58 PM EDT
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Pol Pot took out about 25% of Cambodia in about four. Germany had a population around 70 million. They killed around 6 million of their own people as war dead by starting a war, and assuming 6 million that they exterminated (Jews, gypsies, dissidents, etc.), they still only managed to kill about 17% of their population. If you go with the high estimates of 10 million in the holocaust, you're still only looking at about 22-23%. Mind you I'm looking at this as how much human suffering they caused, not to any individual group - though I understand what you're getting at. Even if we address it that way, though, communists are still more lethal. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Because the Media and Academia have always been Pinko Commie sympathizers.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPol Potheads?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:21:11 PM EDT
[#14]
One word...
FLUORIDATION!!!!! by putting fluoride into our drinking water, the Communist have sapped and contaminated our Precious Bodily Fluids... 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:30:20 PM EDT
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Because McCarthy was right. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:38:34 PM EDT
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20-25 million dead that Hitler is responsible for over the course of 6 years! Most who died were Nazis killing non-Germans. Had he had more time, Hitler would have far exceeded the communist numbers. Communism has a high kill score because the Chinese had a large population to kill off but it took Communism 70 years to kill 100 million, the vast majority killed by their own government. Both evil philosophies, but it is easy to see why Hitler is the bigger boogeyman. Also, we fought him directly. Commies are a larger threat to their own people. Nazis are a larger threat to neighboring countries. Fighting the Nazis cost nearly 200K American lives in 3.5 years. We lost nearly 100K American lives during the next 45 years fighting the communists almost entirely in Asia, but never the Russians directly/officially. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:42:56 PM EDT
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People sympathetic to Communism run media and the education system. Both should be seen as evil, no damn difference |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:44:04 PM EDT
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Some groups of people have really good PR departments.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:46:03 PM EDT
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Wouldn't it be embarrassing to admit to your children you didn't finish the job?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:48:31 PM EDT
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Because, Propaganda.
Every time someone acts like being called a Nazi bothers them or that they need to defend against the baseless accusation they encourage the practice. It's like being called a racist. It doesn't work unless society and the accused reacts to it. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:51:08 PM EDT
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Stalin did not intend/set out to eradicate groups of people.  Are you serious?   Stalin ordered the killing /starvation of millions. Is this news to you?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:01:48 PM EDT
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maybe because we had a rather large war with hitler. just a thought...
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:06:28 PM EDT
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Stalin did not intend/set out to eradicate groups of people.
And there are a few million Ukrainians that might disagree with you. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:19:11 PM EDT
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Don't get me wrong Hitler was an evil man and he deserves his place in the eternal pits of hell but why isn't Communism the ultimate bogeyman instead of the Nazism? Stalin killed way more people than Hitler. Communism is responsible for nearly 100,000,000 deaths. I just honestly don't think people are as aware of Stalins crimes as they are Hitler's. compare the number of movies and documentaries about the Nazis to that of Stalin and his henchman. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:26:47 PM EDT
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I never understood it either. The communist party leads the way in death toll by orders of magnitude. Maybe it's because most people are too stupid to know the difference. I tried to explain what Nazi actually stood for to I've of my hack liberal realatives. NS.......... National Socialist...... Their head nearly exploded...... They said that's not true....... Mmmmkay...  Simply saying "that's not true" is childish, stupid, and just wrong. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:27:47 PM EDT
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because communism is winning and the winners get to write history?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:29:02 PM EDT
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OP has a good point.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:29:19 PM EDT
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Apparently your intentions matter a great deal when you're exterminating millions of people
And there are a few million Ukrainians that might disagree with you. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:29:54 PM EDT
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Because McCarthy was right. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:31:46 PM EDT
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Don't get me wrong Hitler was an evil man and he deserves his place in the eternal pits of hell but why isn't Communism the ultimate bogeyman instead of the Nazism? Stalin killed way more people than Hitler. Communism is responsible for nearly 100,000,000 deaths. Because the left is for communism and Hitler makes a good bogeyman. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:32:33 PM EDT
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Because the left is for communism and Hitler makes a good bogeyman. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:39:20 PM EDT
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Except for the Ukranians and the kulaks. http://hrsu.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/4/9/11495427/5879119_orig.jpg http://kulaks.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/8/2/38823851/7846421_orig.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stalin did not intend/set out to eradicate groups of people. http://hrsu.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/4/9/11495427/5879119_orig.jpg http://kulaks.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/8/2/38823851/7846421_orig.gif I won't ever be giving my guns up, not while I draw breath. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:39:33 PM EDT
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Because McCarthy was right. After fall of Communism and the KGB archives were opened up, they all vindicated McCarthy. Turns out our State Department, Hollywood, etc WERE chock full of Soviet agents and sympathizers. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:42:49 PM EDT
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The truth is most Americans are stupid.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:45:15 PM EDT
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Stalin did not intend/set out to eradicate groups of people. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:49:39 PM EDT
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People sympathetic to Communism run media and the education system. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:52:35 PM EDT
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FPNI. After fall of Communism and the KGB archives were opened up, they all vindicated McCarthy. Turns out our State Department, Hollywood, etc WERE chock full of Soviet agents and sympathizers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because McCarthy was right. After fall of Communism and the KGB archives were opened up, they all vindicated McCarthy. Turns out our State Department, Hollywood, etc WERE chock full of Soviet agents and sympathizers. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:56:03 PM EDT
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People sympathetic to Communism run media and the education system. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:56:28 PM EDT
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The Russians still call anyone that opposes them Nazis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because the left is for communism and Hitler makes a good bogeyman. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:57:33 PM EDT
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Because dead Commies aren't real people and don't count?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:58:46 PM EDT
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FPNI. After fall of Communism and the KGB archives were opened up, they all vindicated McCarthy. Turns out our State Department, Hollywood, etc WERE chock full of Soviet agents and sympathizers. After WWII Antifa helped the Soviets and East German authorities weed out anti-communists. They helped build the Iron Curtain. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:00:20 PM EDT
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Because we fought a massive war directly against Hitler. We only fought Stalin by proxy and quietly in back rooms. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:06:54 PM EDT
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The Liberal's idol Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his wife loved Communists.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:09:55 PM EDT
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The Liberal's idol Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his wife loved Communists. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:24:20 PM EDT
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Because McCarthy was right. It is not a politically correct answer however. Senator Joe and his colleagues did not tread lightly and dug up a horde which overwhelmed them. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:29:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:29:00 PM EDT
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Not mine, saw it online somewhere:
The difference between nazis and communists is that you when you point out how horrible nazis have been, no one says "...well, real nazisim has never really been tried..." My thoughts: Communism has really been given a pass by academia, and in turn, the public, because they like to believe in the idealistic claims that a communist society will supposedly bring. (commies claim:) more equality, giving the benefits of wealth production to the workers themselves, eliminate the influence of the wealthy on society, etc. Now, I don't believe that communists or socialists ever deliver on these claims, but it's a pitch that brings people in. You know all of the pitches they use when they extol the virtues of communism and extreme socialism. And some out of work or underprivileged person buys into it, thinking... yes, all this inequality caused by the wealthy... "we can do better". And so, many in the public have bought into the fairy tale of what communism will bring. The utopia of health care for all in Cuba, the elimination of the influence of the wealthy in politics. Equitable distribution of things for all. A paradise. Except in practice, it does not work. It has never worked, except possibly in some small communities where every member has full bought into it. These 'isms always require massive shifts in power from the people to the state, and once the state has that power, the individual does not have it so well anymore after all, and, then, the people no longer have a choice about it. And then, if the individual complains about the issue, the promises undelivered, they become an enemy of the state, an enemy of the revolution. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:27:17 PM EDT
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Hiltler killed people we gave a shit about.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:28:26 PM EDT
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maybe because they infiltrated some of the school systems with socialist communist leaning professors.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:32:07 PM EDT
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OP, please don't try to use facts in this debate. The left doesn't like it.
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