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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:52:24 PM EDT
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:52:27 PM EDT
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I like kids just fine....BREEDER!
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:52:36 PM EDT
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I don't hate kids, I like well behaved ones and enjoy goofing off with my friends kids. I just don't want kids and I don't want to be eating while little johhny/sally act like assholes.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:55:50 PM EDT
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I stay way the hell away from other peoples kids.
In this day and age ONE wrong word from one of them or their parents and your life will be destroyed. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:56:18 PM EDT
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Bears? Cubs? Nuff said.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:57:28 PM EDT
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A lot of men really just don't care for other peoples kids. I'm one of them. I don't wish any ill on them or anything and I'm sure most of them are nice kids, I just don't really want them around. I love my girls more than anything on earth but even my nephews (in laws kids) creep me the fuck out. Some people also choose not to have kids. If they don't want to spread the genetics, that's their choice. It's not that I hate kids. I just don't care for them. Plus, there is a big difference in my mind between a younger child and a teenager. I enjoy seeing teenagers discovering who they are. Working with or helping out teenagers can be a blast. They teach me shit that at 35, I'm too far removed from and I can pass along some appropriate hard earned knowledge that their parents often choose to sugar coat. Being a mentor, wiser co-worker, or fellow volunteer works for me. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:59:11 PM EDT
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It's a cool and edgy thing for a young person to say. I said it, but it is my biggest regret...
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:59:44 PM EDT
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. Crotch fruit isn't for everyone. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:02:29 PM EDT
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To broad of a brush friend....... I never wanted to be married and I never have. I most certainly slept around in my days as a single man...Why not?? And I have assuredly been drunk a number of times. Never been in the military either. I do have a daughter that I help raise and she is married and now has had her first child. Oh yea..I will be 65 in December and am still very much a man. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:05:46 PM EDT
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No you don't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do people with kids always say "You don't understand, you don't have kids"? I WAS a kid so I understand exactly what it was like.  .
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:05:46 PM EDT
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Nothing, but I do agree that there is a lot of selfishness running around these days. That may or may not apply to anyone specifically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nonsense. WTF does someone 'being a kid once' have to do with them wanting or liking kids? Nothing. I have seen many people over the years say or write that one of the reasons they had kids was so they would have someone to take care of them in their old age. Selfish? |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:07:50 PM EDT
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lol, why do people with children hate those that don't have any? Quote HistoryQuoted:
lol, why do people with children hate those that don't have any? 
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. Quoted:
A lot of men really just don't care for other peoples kids. I'm one of them. I don't wish any ill on them or anything and I'm sure most of them are nice kids, I just don't really want them around. I love my girls more than anything on earth but even my nephews (in laws kids) creep me the fuck out. Some people also choose not to have kids. If they don't want to spread the genetics, that's their choice. Me personally... it's the screaming. I don't mean crying babies, but when kids have temper tantrums and scream as loud as possible - and their parents don't do anything to stop it, not even taking the kid home. Nope, everyone else has to put up with it instead, and how dare they be annoyed by it. Kinda like the last time I was on a plane. The woman behind us had a 2 year old who kept coughing constantly and kicking us in the back. I swear the mother damn near had a hissy fit over being asked for it to stop. Turn around to look after being kicked - "DON'T YOU EVEN LOOK AT HIM!" as if WE were the problem for his behavior. You know... I suspect that it's not really kids that people dislike - just the parents who don't control them. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:08:34 PM EDT
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:11:11 PM EDT
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because so many of them grow up to be 13'ers
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:11:46 PM EDT
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My wife and I are in our fifties now. Never got around to having kids. Selfish? I have seen many people over the years say or write that one of the reasons they had kids was so they would have someone to take care of them in their old age. Selfish? |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:12:43 PM EDT
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I never wanted kids. My wife never wanted kids. Almost got a vasectomy in 2007 because of this. I pussed out. Rolled the dice one too many times and got my wife pregnant in 2012. I have a 4 year old right now. I love him to death, but at 38, my personality was pretty much set in stone. I'm inflexible, tired, work 42+ hours a week, come home and have to try to get a kid in bed who gets up at least 4 times before midnight, and my ass has to be up at 330. I'm still waiting for the rewarding part.
For all you judgmental types. I love my son more than anything, including my wife and myself, but goddamn, fucking kids. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:13:40 PM EDT
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I hated other kids when I was a kid.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:13:57 PM EDT
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I remember being a kid and thinking the kids around me were annoying and immature.
Yes, I am obviously a ton of fun at parties. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:14:04 PM EDT
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MYOB
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:14:29 PM EDT
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I always wanted the "Peter Pan" lifestyle, you know the "I'll never grow up" attitude. Somewhere between life cycles and struggle for the legal tender you lose yer patience. ALSO, and this is a biggie, young children are a ball of electro-nukemplastea and it's just damn hard to deal with all that energy ad DRAMA. Females are the perfect keepers of young children else there wouldn't be young children cause old men would leave the area. Tents are a good idea. Matter a fact you can put the women and the kids into tents ao the men could talk about important things. A good cigar during this time helps solve many great problems. Perhaps even a weeee dram or two.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:14:32 PM EDT
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I don't question your gender. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:14:49 PM EDT
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Aren't you one of those "never having kids" types?
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:18:48 PM EDT
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I for one am glad a lot of you fuckers aren't reproducing. Good riddance to your genes.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:18:54 PM EDT
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. That's called being an adult: Nobody owes anyone a goddamn thing-especially approval for expressing an opinion that's un-American. If somebody doesn't think children are important for the future and insists on acting like a spoiled, self-centered adolescent, it's probably best to STFU about it unless one has thick skin. Apparently, most of the "haters" (and that was the exact word used in the OP's question) don't..... |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:19:09 PM EDT
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Way I see it.
From day 1 to 5 years.. it's just crying and puking, sick all the time bugger nosed, always hungry assholes. From 5 to 12ish they seem pretty cool. After 12 they're just regular assholes that get more expensive by the minute. If you're lucky after mid 20s if somehow you didn't fuck up, and somehow they didn't fuck up you can claim victory maybe. They can still fuck up but it's on them after that and not you. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:19:17 PM EDT
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I don't hate children, I just find them annoying as fuck. I suppose if I had kids and they were my own my feelings would be considerably tempered.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:19:31 PM EDT
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I never wanted kids. My wife never wanted kids. Almost got a vasectomy in 2007 because of this. I pussed out. Rolled the dice one too many times and got my wife pregnant in 2012. I have a 4 year old right now. I love him to death, but at 38, my personality was pretty much set in stone. I'm inflexible, tired, work 42+ hours a week, come home and have to try to get a kid in bed who gets up at least 4 times before midnight, and my ass has to be up at 330. I'm still waiting for the rewarding part. For all you judgmental types. I love my son more than anything, including my wife and myself, but goddamn, fucking kids. Children are fucking awful. But the OP, like 99% of breeders, is of the opinion that "ZOMG there's only one POSSIBLE way to go through life!" whereas people who choose not to have kids are always willing to see both sides of the argument. Personally, I think every person who chooses to have children is an idiot, but I don't go around telling them they're all idiots ALL the time the way breeders do. We get it, your fuck trophy is the best thing that ever happened in your miserable life. The difference is, we don't care. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:20:08 PM EDT
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I don't give much of a fuck if anyone understands why I don't want nor will ever have kids. Im 41 years old and I am capable of running my own life without some one telling me what I should have.
"used to be a kid" that is a dumb ass argument for having kids most people I see that ask this question are just jealous of my lifestyle. freedom and personal free income. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:20:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:20:54 PM EDT
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I can understand a few, but there are so many. They hate kids because they are dirty, noisy, expensive, time-consuming, etc. But their parents put up with the noise and the crap and the expense and the time constraints. I don't get it. Mother told me I never really was a kid, so that is my excuse. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:26:31 PM EDT
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Why should I like what my parents like?
My mom likes horses, my dad likes church and I don't want kids, horses or church. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:28:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:30:05 PM EDT
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Bingo! They aren't right in the head. Seeing my children grow up with the values that were passed on to me by my parents and grandparents is rewarding for sure but to see those values pass on to the grandchildren and being a part of that is even a greater reward. How sad to have nothing worthy of passing on much less not wanting a generation to pass it on to. No wonder our country is so screwed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:31:53 PM EDT
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Bingo! They aren't right in the head. Seeing my children grow up with the values that were passed on to me by my parents and grandparents is rewarding for sure but to see those values pass on to the grandchildren and being a part of that is even a greater reward. How sad to have nothing worthy of passing on much less not wanting a generation to pass it on to. No wonder our country is so screwed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Selfish Damn..... |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:32:26 PM EDT
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I stay way the hell away from other peoples kids. In this day and age ONE wrong word from one of them or their parents and your life will be destroyed. 
[Kidding]don't conscript them into your child army then?[/kidding] I don't have kids. My 3 best friends growing up do, and those little fuckers are all awesome. 2-13yo. One thing I have observed is that the families where the mom is the extremely domestic oriented "mama bear" have the best dynamic. Most of the girls Ive dated haven't had that trait, so I'm 35 with no kids and a gf that doesn't want anytime soon, or ever, so it might not be in the cards. If thats the case, the friends' kids can be my heirs. I've always dabbled in dangerous quadrants of the hot/crazy matrix. Every girl I've ever brought home, my mom says "she's nice but she better not be the mother of my grandkids" lol, and I took that seriously up until recently Most people I know, their parents told us "never get a girl knocked up, don't have kids in this crazy crazy world, zomg." Baby boomer brain washing smh. I knew some girls who had kids in high school, then nobody else had kids till 30++ lol.smh. California values |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:35:23 PM EDT
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Arfcom has almost completely lost the ability to debate things. Someone actually said "don't judge me" like a Maury guest, and a lot of dudes jumped on the bandwagon. This is an incredibly rich topic for debate, and you dudes simply pull the "You don't know me'" routine? WTF? Perhaps Goatboy can remove the "Report" button, and replace it with a "Safe Space Violation" one.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:38:48 PM EDT
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Arfcom has almost completely lost the ability to debate things. Someone actually said "don't judge me" like a Maury guest, and a lot of dudes jumped on the bandwagon. This is an incredibly rich topic for debate, and you dudes simply pull the "You don't know me'" routine? WTF? Perhaps Goatboy can remove the "Report" button, and replace it with a "Safe Space Violation" one. 
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:40:53 PM EDT
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Good point. Also a good point. Me personally... it's the screaming. I don't mean crying babies, but when kids have temper tantrums and scream as loud as possible - and their parents don't do anything to stop it, not even taking the kid home. Nope, everyone else has to put up with it instead, and how dare they be annoyed by it. Kinda like the last time I was on a plane. The woman behind us had a 2 year old who kept coughing constantly and kicking us in the back. I swear the mother damn near had a hissy fit over being asked for it to stop. Turn around to look after being kicked - "DON'T YOU EVEN LOOK AT HIM!" as if WE were the problem for his behavior. You know... I suspect that it's not really kids that people dislike - just the parents who don't control them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol, why do people with children hate those that don't have any?
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Its not for you "to get". It's not your choice. It's not your life. Let people do what they want and stop judging or trying to judge them. They are not impacting your life, directly, by this choice, so leave it be. Quoted:
A lot of men really just don't care for other peoples kids. I'm one of them. I don't wish any ill on them or anything and I'm sure most of them are nice kids, I just don't really want them around. I love my girls more than anything on earth but even my nephews (in laws kids) creep me the fuck out. Some people also choose not to have kids. If they don't want to spread the genetics, that's their choice. Me personally... it's the screaming. I don't mean crying babies, but when kids have temper tantrums and scream as loud as possible - and their parents don't do anything to stop it, not even taking the kid home. Nope, everyone else has to put up with it instead, and how dare they be annoyed by it. Kinda like the last time I was on a plane. The woman behind us had a 2 year old who kept coughing constantly and kicking us in the back. I swear the mother damn near had a hissy fit over being asked for it to stop. Turn around to look after being kicked - "DON'T YOU EVEN LOOK AT HIM!" as if WE were the problem for his behavior. You know... I suspect that it's not really kids that people dislike - just the parents who don't control them. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:47:01 PM EDT
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Buddy of mine at work has a 4 year old autistic daughter. Between that and helping his wife with her home business in the evenings I think he literally has no time for himself at all. He plays with investment as I do and I was asking him about retirement goals and his answer was, "We have to make enough to basically provide for our daughter forever since she will never be able to provide for herself". I admire that kind of personality but it sure isn't mine. And once I realized that I also realized I should never have kids. Because you don't get to choose and you are a parent forever.
I was giving him a lift after work one day to pick up his car from the shop and he goes, "So what do you do after work? Oh that's right, I forgot, anything you want." I know he set himself up for that joke. But I think there was a bit of ennui, or truth or something there. I would never repeat that joke to his wife for instance. But again, I am not that guy who finds satisfaction in self-sacrifice of that type. And I know that about myself. I don't think of myself as selfish. Just different wants and priorities. My brother was ambivalent about kids but his wife wanted them and he loved her and so... He ended up with two really great kids. But he worked soul sucking jobs at shitty companies for 30 years to pay for the endeavor. He reminded me of a coal stoker on an old steam engine shoveling money into the endeavor that was raising children with a stay at home mom. I also know that wasn't for me. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:47:22 PM EDT
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Only a fool thinks we live in the same world our parents did.
We face challenges now that no other culture has had before. We have loopy women who are encouraged to leave you at the first disagreement, and take everything of yours in the bargain with courts, media and her friends to take her side. We face kids that can't be disciplined lest you be accused of abuse and lose, money, 2A privileges, jobs, etc. It's just too dicey a game to have kids. May as well play Russian roulette with a semi-auto pistol. 
I love kids, if I won the 700 million powerball, I'd have like 30. Alas, I'm just a regular guy and can't afford them.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:49:52 PM EDT
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Most of the little bastards cannot be tolerated.
I was raised by parents who made sure that I was not an annoying little brat. Most parents today do not believe that their little snowflakes can do any wrong. It is their fault that I hate their kids. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:56:49 PM EDT
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Well, at least I've learned my wife and I are selfish and un American. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom has almost completely lost the ability to debate things. Someone actually said "don't judge me" like a Maury guest, and a lot of dudes jumped on the bandwagon. This is an incredibly rich topic for debate, and you dudes simply pull the "You don't know me'" routine? WTF? Perhaps Goatboy can remove the "Report" button, and replace it with a "Safe Space Violation" one. I've never read a post from you that expressed disdain for children so if the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear the motherfucker. If you've used "crotchfruit" to describe other people's children for example (or kids in general), then don't be surprised if others mock you for being self-absorbed. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:57:32 PM EDT
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Selfish |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:59:51 PM EDT
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I hated other kids when I was a kid too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:04:35 PM EDT
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I don't hate my kids, I just hate other people's kids.
Then again, I don't have kids, so I don't know even know what the fuck I'm talking about. Go drunk ZedsDeadBaby, you're home. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:05:35 PM EDT
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Yep. Will likely be the downfall of western civilization. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Selfish Of course that would involve sacrifice, so.... But hey, we have Muslims we can import to make up for the difference, so there's that. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:07:57 PM EDT
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Cause if you have a baby da won't be da bay bay no more.
These homos don't wanna share their toys and attention. Closet Libs! |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:08:36 PM EDT
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Everyone who has children has a mental disease and is morally bankrupt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see the shit stirring has begun. Let me add in: Those with children have some perverse desire to relive their childhood through their children. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:08:52 PM EDT
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Probably you are on a website dedicated to self indulgence and the majority of people posting here have free time and people with a family have less free time. In short selection bias in your sample
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Posted: 8/23/2017 11:11:26 PM EDT
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Hahahaha.
I see the shit stirring has begun. Let me add in: Those with children have some perverse desire to relive their childhood through their children. Maybe you nailed it. I hated childhood and would have no desire to go back and re-live it. Could be tied to my lack of interest in having children. |
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