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Posted: 1/20/2015 7:49:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Redtube has your answer. The German chick?
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Posted: 1/20/2015 7:52:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4WD low?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks? Kharn 4WD low? Little known fact: Most autos when put in 2nd stay in 2nd regardless of what your doing. This lessens torque to the wheels for traction on wet grass, snow, greasy mud. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:11:17 AM EDT
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Whats even worse is electronic shifters on a hybrid with the stop-start bs where the engine shuts off. Some cars might be better, but a truck I drove with that crap took a good 2-3 seconds to start back up and shift back into drive after being stopped at a light. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The all electric shifters are a blazingly stupid idea with zero redundancy. Run away. Whats even worse is electronic shifters on a hybrid with the stop-start bs where the engine shuts off. Some cars might be better, but a truck I drove with that crap took a good 2-3 seconds to start back up and shift back into drive after being stopped at a light. You can have the engine-stop thing on a non-hybrid, which is what it sounds like you had. (Silverado?). That arrangement makes no sense to me because of the aforementioned lag in starting up. If you have a hybrid, the vehicle will always move instantly whether the engine is running or not. It will start and stop automatically as needed, and it is basically invisible to the driver beyond being able to hear it. The rest of the time, it's on battery power. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:21:25 AM EDT
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Bench seats were great. Especially before seatbelt laws. Three in the front or having the sweetie cozy up next to you while driving or at the drive-in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On a side note does anyone else miss bench seats that a console shifter prohibits? Bench seats were great. Especially before seatbelt laws. Three in the front or having the sweetie cozy up next to you while driving or at the drive-in. Or driving with a cast on your right leg. In high school I tore the ligaments in my right knee skiing and they put me in an ankle to groin cast, dead straight. My sister was at college and she left her K car with bench seats at home. I'd just swing my right leg out on the seat and drive with my left foot. 
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:41:25 AM EDT
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Little known fact: Most autos when put in 2nd stay in 2nd regardless of what your doing. This lessens torque to the wheels for traction on wet grass, snow, greasy mud. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn 4WD low? Little known fact: Most autos when put in 2nd stay in 2nd regardless of what your doing. This lessens torque to the wheels for traction on wet grass, snow, greasy mud. My Landcruiser has a "second gear start" button to achieve that for the same reason. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:45:16 AM EDT
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It would be cool if it were buttons to press like on the big buses and motor homes. Acura TLX 
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1962 Dodge Dart http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1950s-gear-shift-j.jpg  Yup. Loved my 63 GT Dart with the push button torqueflite. Fun fact. You can push start that vintage of torqueflite. But you'll need to push fast.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:50:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The worst are the pickups with the shifter taking up the center of the front seat. My Dad had a car in the 60's, Plymouth maybe, that had push buttons on the dash, but I'm sure it was mechanical. yup. They controlled the transmission via two cables. One for the buttons. One for the park lever.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:51:07 AM EDT
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Same reason men have nipples.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:53:42 AM EDT
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There is only really one "shift knob". It's called a Hurst four on the floor.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 9:56:42 AM EDT
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The only reason for console shifters is on a manual transmission. Otherwise I'd prefer it in the column. Console shifters with automatics are a complete waste of space.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:01:56 AM EDT
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How many transmissions exploded because of mis pushed buttons? Lots.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:06:45 AM EDT
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Tradition... Some are more sensible, and locate it on the dash. The Oddesy and Prius come to mind. I hate that, put it on the steering column where it belongs
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:14:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many transmissions exploded because of mis pushed buttons? Lots. Only relevant story I've heard off was a drag racer that hit R instead of N at the end of his run. The wheels locked and he lost control, totaling the car. The transmission was fine though.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:14:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:20:41 AM EDT
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1962 Dodge Dart http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1950s-gear-shift-j.jpg Mercury had a similar layout in ......1958,I believe. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:26:41 AM EDT
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So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn So Kharn doesn't see the need for glasses for his posts? |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:29:07 AM EDT
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It makes no sense in some vehicles but in others the shift knob retains a purpose. Some automatic transmissions have the ability to be switched into a manual mode there by making the shift knob into a form of slap shifter. On my wife KIA Optima TGDI when you switch the 6 speed automatic into manual mode it transfers shifting control to the paddle shifters on the wheel
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:40:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many transmissions exploded because of mis pushed buttons? Lots. Modern passenger cars have computers that keep you from doing anything stupid. I drive a Leaf at work. If you press the park button while it's in motion, it'll just beep at you. How's this for different?  |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:44:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:49:03 AM EDT
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On a side note does anyone else miss bench seats that a console shifter prohibits? My truck has a split bench but the center section has cupholders on the bottom right where your feet would go. Completely useless. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:50:30 AM EDT
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My Mercedes R350 "crossover" station wagon had a toggle on the column very much like a turn signal. It was up for forward and down for backwards, and you pushed the button on the end to park.
We LOVED the 'gearshift' on that car. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 10:58:54 AM EDT
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I also hate electric transfer case selectors. My TJ is still manual, thank god, though I do have electric lockers. And of course my tacoma is electric, But still. Bring back manual Tcase and locking hubs. 
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg I also hate electric transfer case selectors. My TJ is still manual, thank god, though I do have electric lockers. And of course my tacoma is electric, But still. Bring back manual Tcase and locking hubs.
RC My 1979 Jeep Cherokee has an automatic transfer case. Google "jeep quadratrac".
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:02:48 AM EDT
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1962 Dodge Dart http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1950s-gear-shift-j.jpg Chrysler 300 
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:04:17 AM EDT
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The car everyone loved to hate. The Edsel. Push button tranny in the center hub (I assume it didn't turn with the wheel?) Also had a compass like speedometer where the numbers turned but the needle stood still. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:05:54 AM EDT
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It would be cool if it were buttons to press like on the big buses and motor homes. The new lincolns do this. Im not a fan. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:06:54 AM EDT
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My GF's Prius has a CVT and a lever that reminds me of a joystick. Park is activated by a button.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:10:36 AM EDT
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The only reason for console shifters is on a manual transmission. Otherwise I'd prefer it in the column. Console shifters with automatics are a complete waste of space. This. I wish they made modern automatic sedans with a column shifter. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:15:05 AM EDT
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4WD low? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn 4WD low? there are steering wheel mounting shift buttons that allow you to shift manually. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:19:21 AM EDT
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The shift knobs are starting to look more and more like a sex toy.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:20:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: there are steering wheel mounting shift buttons that allow you to shift manually. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks? Kharn 4WD low? there are steering wheel mounting shift buttons that allow you to shift manually.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:47:11 AM EDT
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So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn There are 2 buttons + - on the steering wheel to shift up or down through the 8 gears, You quickly get used to the rotary knob and the 8 speed tranny is awesome. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:15:58 PM EDT
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So Kharn doesn't see the need for glasses for his posts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Newer Dodge Ram shifter knob http://image.trucktrend.com/f/roadtests/pickup/163_1307_our_cars_2013_ram_1500/54441748/2013-ram-1500-laramie-gear-shift-knob.jpg So Dodge doesn't see any need for low gear with their trucks?
Kharn So Kharn doesn't see the need for glasses for his posts? 4WD Low isn't for use in dry pavement, and the paddle shifters aren't visible in that photo so I didn't know they were present on the truck. Some times you need torque but aren't on a slippery surface to prevent grenading the transfer case. Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:37:08 PM EDT
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Screw this knob crap. I want to see someone bring lightning rods back.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:30:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:51:44 PM EDT
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I prefer a stick, even in autos. For one reason, I like driving manual transmissions, and driving without some kind of stick is for pansies.
For another, I don't have to look down to find a button, I know which setting I'm in by feel. Yet another, it's easier to drive in the mountains without taking your eyes off the road to shift into a lower gear. Etc. |
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