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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:34:45 PM EDT
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I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight.
So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:based on that, shouldn't sharia based societies be massively successful? Fundamentalist Islam is on the march/rise in Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Syria as well as many countries in Africa. Throngs of military age Islamic men are streaming into western Europe from the Middle East, Levant, and Maghreb and the western Euros are paying them to come and stay while their birth rates have fallen below replacement level. Do you think that the #rapefugees are coming to Europe because they want to read Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Aristotle, and convert to Christianity? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:36:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:36:57 PM EDT
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I guess if I was massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender I might find that video compelling. So you find it compelling? 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:37:43 PM EDT
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Manifest Destiny.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:38:49 PM EDT
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Nope, still gotta have a work ethic. Great societies don't build themselves. Takes a lot of hard work and sacrifice. If you spend all day fucking goats, your society will never put a goatfucker on the moon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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 http://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw
Ok, fess up. Who is Black Pigeon? ETA: For the TL;DW crowd -Women aren't loyal to their tribe because they just want to breed and protect their offspring -There had never been a successful Matriarchy -Successful civilizations restrain the sexual adventurism of their women -Injection of feminizing influences into a society makes it ripe for conquest by those societies that resist such influences based on that, shouldn't sharia based societies be massively successful? Nope, still gotta have a work ethic. Great societies don't build themselves. Takes a lot of hard work and sacrifice. If you spend all day fucking goats, your society will never put a goatfucker on the moon. What if their society could give two shits about putting someone on the moon, yet grows at a very fast rate based on their interpretation of religion? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:39:17 PM EDT
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I think the decline of the west has more to do with apathy and lack of adversity.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:39:55 PM EDT
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I would say the destruction of the nuclear family is the crux of the matter, since that is THE fundamental building block of a civil society.
And both men AND women have contributed to that. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:40:22 PM EDT
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I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight. So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. You are using the wrong metrics to measure "failing." These societies have, as you said, existed for thousands of years. Compare that to the rapid descent of this country/society in the past couple of decades, and short overall existence. We are contracting and devolving, while ME societies are taking over larger and larger swaths of the planet. The video deals purely with survival of a society--not wealth, or stability, or a comfortable life for the people. Pure survival. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:42:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The forum sliding from white nationalists, neo-reactionaries, and other internet dwelling wannabe fascists is getting so intense in GD that it's going to reach a tipping point soon. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:42:20 PM EDT
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In on page 1 2 of this one.
ETA: Slow on the draw today. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:43:04 PM EDT
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I would say the destruction of the nuclear family is the crux of the matter, since that is THE fundamental building block of a civil society. And both men AND women have contributed to that. I blame men MORE than women. Men have allowed themselves to become a laughing stock instead of leaders. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:43:07 PM EDT
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You are using the wrong metrics to measure "failing." These societies have, as you said, existed for thousands of years. Compare that to the rapid descent of this country/society in the past couple of decades, and short overall existence. We are contracting and devolving, while ME societies are taking over larger and larger swaths of the planet. The video deals purely with survival of a society--not wealth, or stability, or a comfortable life for the people. Pure survival. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight. So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. You are using the wrong metrics to measure "failing." These societies have, as you said, existed for thousands of years. Compare that to the rapid descent of this country/society in the past couple of decades, and short overall existence. We are contracting and devolving, while ME societies are taking over larger and larger swaths of the planet. The video deals purely with survival of a society--not wealth, or stability, or a comfortable life for the people. Pure survival. Good post. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:43:25 PM EDT
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In on page 1 2 of this one. ETA: Slow on the draw today.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight. So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. That is not stated, and it's ridiculous to assert because there are obviously other reasons. Go hang out in a closet with your straw man somewhere else. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:48:43 PM EDT
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Civilizations wouldn't fall if humans quit creating them.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:51:34 PM EDT
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I can't watch the vid, but I find the TL;DW synopsis to mean that it's simplistic and short sighted.
What is the definition of a successful civilization? I find the idea of balance in this situation quite important to the topic as well as the fact that ideas of "masculinity" and "femininity" shift as they are culturally dependent definitions, but don't let that stop everyone from their massive homosexual circle jerk about how alpha they are and all the womenz are just bleeding heart idiots. I think the pervasiveness of stupidity and human nature, along with the lack of a balanced application of intelligent traits found in both (read 2) genders is leading the downfall of our nation. A moron pajama boy can use his vote to bring down our nation just as easily as a woman's vote can, and yet plenty of women vote for good candidates and have a good head on their shoulders and still retain their femininity. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:51:51 PM EDT
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Since women were given the right to vote, the size of government has steadily increased.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:53:41 PM EDT
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Since women were given the right to vote, the size of government has steadily increased exploded. FIFY |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:57:05 PM EDT
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So also would a feminized metrosexual incapable of comprehending the coming destruction of Western civilization. Pajama Boy doesn't care. ::shrug:: Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if I was massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender I might find that video compelling. So also would a feminized metrosexual incapable of comprehending the coming destruction of Western civilization. Pajama Boy doesn't care. ::shrug:: LOL. There's those basal notions of gender again. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:59:58 PM EDT
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don't Fret boys, A solution is forthcoming.. Any day now.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:00:24 PM EDT
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Rapefugee crises don't exist. Islam is peaceful. Feminism yeah! FWIW I met a feminist that lives in Europe and hates Islam and the Refugees with a firey passion. Maybe they are starting to come around. Small victories towards the death of feminism i suppose. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:01:09 PM EDT
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The bigger problem has been immigration. Married white women tend to be conservative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Part or all? Quite frankly the dice are cast and we will be swinging back to more tribal and patriarchal societies. Giving women the right to vote has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. The bigger problem has been immigration. Married white women tend to be conservative. Married men and women tend to vote conservative/Republican, while unmarried men and women tend to vote socialist/"progressive"/Democrat. Not to the same degree, however. Married men tend to be more conservative than married women, and single women tend to be notably more socialist/"progressive"/Democrat than single men. Point is, though, that the disintegration of the family (more unmarried people) has societal and political consequences. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:01:09 PM EDT
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Yeah...good luck with that! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw
Ok, fess up. Who is Black Pigeon? ETA: For the TL;DW crowd -Women aren't loyal to their tribe because they just want to breed and protect their offspring -There had never been a successful Matriarchy -Successful civilizations restrain the sexual adventurism of their women -Injection of feminizing influences into a society makes it ripe for conquest by those societies that resist such influences Yeah...good luck with that! "Successful" |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:04:50 PM EDT
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lol that was funny
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:05:32 PM EDT
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lol that was funny if you get divorced do you think that your wife deserves half your shit |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:06:50 PM EDT
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LOL. There's those basal notions of gender again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if I was massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender I might find that video compelling. So also would a feminized metrosexual incapable of comprehending the coming destruction of Western civilization. Pajama Boy doesn't care. ::shrug:: LOL. There's those basal notions of gender again. Sorry, ma'am. Edit: In case you took that wrong, I wasn't calling YOU Pajama Boy--I meant what I said, which is simply, Pajama Boy wouldn't care. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:08:46 PM EDT
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I was gonna post this the other day but didn't feel like dealing with the arfcom cucks and big easy snow shit postings 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:09:52 PM EDT
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interesting
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:11:49 PM EDT
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Your assumption is that the video claims this is the ONLY cause of the downfall of societies. That is not stated, and it's ridiculous to assert because there are obviously other reasons. Go hang out in a closet with your straw man somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight. So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. That is not stated, and it's ridiculous to assert because there are obviously other reasons. Go hang out in a closet with your straw man somewhere else. I was going off of the OP's TL:DW.
Is that not the gist of the video? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:13:10 PM EDT
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I was going off of the OP's TL:DW.
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I can give great examples of failed societies that heavily restrict female influence. Just look at most of the Middle East, especially the Islamic nations. Women are treated like absolute shit over there. For all intents and purposes, they are property. And guess what? It's one of the most volatile places on Earth, and has been for thousands of years. Nations rise and fall all the time in the ME. The people are literally devolving. And they have their pussy tied down real tight. So basically, the premise of women bringing down societies when we allow them more "freedom" is fucking retarded. That is not stated, and it's ridiculous to assert because there are obviously other reasons. Go hang out in a closet with your straw man somewhere else. I was going off of the OP's TL:DW.
An impatient scholar.. My favorite kind.  
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:15:09 PM EDT
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if you get divorced do you think that your wife deserves half your shit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol that was funny if you get divorced do you think that your wife deserves half your shit Not married yet but I don't agree with what the government has turned marriage into. Took a long term relationship between two people and made it a business contract. No, I don't think she deserves it unless it was my fault. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:21:46 PM EDT
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Didn't watch the video, but I've found most of the modern "red pills" ideologies to be more truthful than not. I'm sure anyone with an open mind can see some trends of the feminist movement and simple voting patterns related to biology.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:26:16 PM EDT
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Didn't watch the video, but I've found most of the modern "red pills" ideologies to be more truthful than not. I'm sure anyone with an open mind can see some trends of the feminist movement and simple voting patterns related to biology. if that is what you think, you will find the video interesting. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:31:33 PM EDT
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Oh boy, this thread is going to be interesting. This thread needed a goddamn corndog in the OP. Anyone who feels that women are the downfall of society can pick their happy asses up and go move to Afghanistan and assrape little boys for fun, given how much they admire and revere patriarchal society. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:36:15 PM EDT
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If I look around the world today, I see a strong correlation between the empowerment and education of women and the general success of a country. Conversely, I see a strong correlation between oppression of women and girls, and the general failure of a country. I can think of a few countries that do OK that treat women poorly. However, I can't think of any that treat women as more or less equals to men that do badly on the world scale.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:36:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:36:40 PM EDT
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This thread needed a goddamn corndog in the OP. Anyone who feels that women are the downfall of society can pick their happy asses up and go move to Afghanistan and assrape little boys for fun, given how much they admire and revere patriarchal society. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh boy, this thread is going to be interesting. This thread needed a goddamn corndog in the OP. Anyone who feels that women are the downfall of society can pick their happy asses up and go move to Afghanistan and assrape little boys for fun, given how much they admire and revere patriarchal society. the point of the video is we don't have to, Afghanistan is coming here. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:36:49 PM EDT
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No one wants to admit the cancer of socialism would have been impossible without the enfranchisement of women.
Fact. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:40:39 PM EDT
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Video smells like angry virgin.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:42:07 PM EDT
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the point of the video is we don't have to, Afghanistan is coming here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh boy, this thread is going to be interesting. This thread needed a goddamn corndog in the OP. Anyone who feels that women are the downfall of society can pick their happy asses up and go move to Afghanistan and assrape little boys for fun, given how much they admire and revere patriarchal society. the point of the video is we don't have to, Afghanistan is coming here. Afghanistan wasn't that bad...the showers were cold though. I think I could live with cold showers... |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:42:23 PM EDT
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Video smells like angry virgin. 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:42:54 PM EDT
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Video smells like angry virgin. Feminism has done great things for the people of Germany. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:42:54 PM EDT
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Not married yet but I don't agree with what the government has turned marriage into. Took a long term relationship between two people and made it a business contract. No, I don't think she deserves it unless it was my fault. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol that was funny if you get divorced do you think that your wife deserves half your shit Not married yet but I don't agree with what the government has turned marriage into. Took a long term relationship between two people and made it a business contract. No, I don't think she deserves it unless it was my fault. The government didn't do that. Marriage has been a primarily economic relationship for eons. The idea of marriage as a predominantly romantic relationship is a western, Victorian idea. Much of the world still doesn't buy into it. Hell, the idea of marriage being between two people is novel from a world-wide and historical perspective. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:43:02 PM EDT
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I guess if I was massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender I might find that video compelling. I guess I'm massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender.z |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:43:16 PM EDT
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There has never been a successful society, all have failed, led by women or men. What happens is cultures change, and success leads to eventual failure. Rome was a success for a long time. There have been plenty of successful societies, and almost all have eventually failed. The eventual failure is due to cultural change. All cultures change over time. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:44:03 PM EDT
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the point of the video is we don't have to, Afghanistan is coming here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh boy, this thread is going to be interesting. This thread needed a goddamn corndog in the OP. Anyone who feels that women are the downfall of society can pick their happy asses up and go move to Afghanistan and assrape little boys for fun, given how much they admire and revere patriarchal society. the point of the video is we don't have to, Afghanistan is coming here. Ouch!
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:45:36 PM EDT
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LOL. There's those basal notions of gender again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess if I was massively ignorant, marginally literate, and oddly obsessed with basal notions of gender I might find that video compelling. So also would a feminized metrosexual incapable of comprehending the coming destruction of Western civilization. Pajama Boy doesn't care. ::shrug:: LOL. There's those basal notions of gender again. Your mouth breathing is basal. 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:45:45 PM EDT
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The government didn't do that. Marriage has been a primarily economic relationship for eons. The idea of marriage as a predominantly romantic relationship is a western, Victorian idea. Much of the world still doesn't buy into it. Hell, the idea of marriage being between two people is novel from a world-wide and historical perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol that was funny if you get divorced do you think that your wife deserves half your shit Not married yet but I don't agree with what the government has turned marriage into. Took a long term relationship between two people and made it a business contract. No, I don't think she deserves it unless it was my fault. The government didn't do that. Marriage has been a primarily economic relationship for eons. The idea of marriage as a predominantly romantic relationship is a western, Victorian idea. Much of the world still doesn't buy into it. Hell, the idea of marriage being between two people is novel from a world-wide and historical perspective. It is also one of the tenets that allowed western civilization to eclipse its rivals. that is not to say that patriarchal governance is superior now.. Or vise versa. I find institutionalized paternalism just as repugnant as Institutionalized maternalism. modern governance should not project a basal gender. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 4:45:52 PM EDT
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Video smells like angry virgin. take your matriarchy out of here |
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