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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:21:50 PM EDT
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Funny, I am so conservative fiscally and mostly socially that I make Rush look like a libtard yet my IQ tested 3 different times through my life has average 40 points higher than their "elite liberal IQ's". I guess because I chose the military and followed it with skilled blue collar work I wasted it though huh? Mine was far higher than them when I was in 1st grade (I was the kid that got an A but never paid attention) I didn't pay attention either(they bored me), and I didn't do homework. They should have shut up and let me do it in class rather than continue blabbering the same thing 50 times. 
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:22:10 PM EDT
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Conservatives give more to charity than liberals.
Liberals want to give more of other people's money to government programs. There is a difference. Liberals are egotistical reincarnated Nazis. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:22:17 PM EDT
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This is what happens when a whole field is captured by a fringe ideology. They are now so ignorant of conservative ideas that stupid crap like this actually seems plausible. Had they actually talked to a conservative this article would have been laughed right out of the profession.
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:22:37 PM EDT
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Liberalism is a metal disease. How else could their views of the how the world works, be so devoid of reality. I'm reading Plato's Republic. I'm seeing a LOT of leftist themes in it. yep. Already read that and several other of his works. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:25:19 PM EDT
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Huh? I don't get it. Is there a Cliff-notes version? Something with more better pictures too? Cliff-notes: 
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:25:24 PM EDT
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The only real thing here is that Liberals are weak. They come up with this to make themselves feel better. They are inadequate types who could not survive if it wasn't for advanced civilization to prop them up. That's the reason they love big governments and social welfare programs. They need them because they cant do for themselves. They live in a fantasy land of Disney proportions. They use their institutions to raise themselves higher than the strong. You can witness this here in the US as the liberals wage their culture war on men, white people, and conservatives.
Independent types, real men whose DNA is filled with the warrior and the hunter, do not want others doing for them. These are the types who have built empires (politically and commercially), kicked ass, and lived as they want. The weak hate these types because they fear this type. And fear turns into anger and hate. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:26:45 PM EDT
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Typical liberal mentality. As usual, they have to be told what to think. The only thing missing is instructions to sit down, look into a mirror and repeat, "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darned it, people like me...." As far as liberals being smarter, me and my Associates Degree in Automotive Technologies took an IQ Test as part of a Neuro-Psychological exam to evaluate some problems I was having. The results showed I have a "permanent mental insult" (brain damage) as a result of head trauma......and I scored high enough on the IQ test to join Mensa. My Harvard educated psychiatrist said he was amazed at how high I scored and I had a higher IQ than he did. The moral of the story is.....your typical brain damaged conservative is smarter than your typical Harvard educated liberal with a PhD. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:27:32 PM EDT
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I know a lot of Post Hole Diggers who have been educated far beyond their intelligence; most are liberals.
Additionally, there have been some people that I've met in the academic world who are quite intelligent regardless of their political ideology. When authors or researchers define discriminators based upon another persons worldview then align a set of data with that I will always review that with extreme skepticsm. There was a time in my family history where my family dealt with some troubling psychological issues with another family member. As a result of this psychological review I submitted to a number of tests. One of these tests was a personality profile. I found the results interesting and helpful because I tend to overreact, become frustrated and get angry. I have learned to deal with these and then turn the emotions into strengths. Also, I took a battery if intelligence tests. The "Doctor" involved administered the test two times upon review of my score. I scored a 162 during the first test and near that on the following tests. I personally believe that intelligence and political ideology are completely anti-corollary. Throughout my experiences in academia I have met many intelligent people with whom I disagree with and plenty with whom I agree with on matters of political interest. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:27:34 PM EDT
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The article basically states that, "Since liberals control the media, show biz, and academia... then they are smarter."
What about this? Conservative types run the military, medical fields, own the businesses, run the athletic programs, run the private schools, ect. Show biz is just a drop in the bucket of society. Stupid progressives... I would love to see everyone in the US take an IQ test and add if they are liberal or conservative. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:41:19 PM EDT
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Not going to read it. Maybe that's just indicative of my inherent stupidity.
One of the biggest problems with maintaining "nuetrality" - if a researcher has a bias then their study - and the results obtained - will support their pre-existing bias. Unless, of course, you're "too intelligent" to suffer that pitfall. 
FWIW I've known lots of "smart" dummies with miles of paper proving just how intelligent they are. While they might be able to diagram a sentence or discuss political theories, it terms of skills applicable in the real world they couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag without assistance. Quoted:
The moral of the story is.....your typical brain damaged conservative is smarter than your typical Harvard educated liberal with a PhD. I run into burning building for a living - does that count? 
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:46:18 PM EDT
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It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them. Yeah, really fucking willing when it's other peoples' money that they want to contribute. Such fucking garbage in that article... quit reading it after this paragraph. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 6:52:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: The article basically states that, "Since liberals control the media, show biz, and academia... then they are smarter." What about this? Conservative types run the military, medical fields, own the businesses, run the athletic programs, run the private schools, ect. Show biz is just a drop in the bucket of society. Stupid progressives... I would love to see everyone in the US take an IQ test and a short add if they are liberal or conservative test. If you did this I'd be willing to bet they'd average out. I've met plenty on both side of the spectrum that are dumb as a box of rocks. I've met some on both sides that are very smart. But I'll say this: liberals can't be too smart if they can't see from history that socialism doesn't work.  |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:00:58 PM EDT
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So how smart is a classical liberal? Must be off the chart
classical liberal Hayek on conservatism (3) Nineteenth-century conservatism, with all its understanding of the pre-eminence of virtue and value, for all its piety towards the continuing tradition of mankind, was far too cavalier to the claims of freedom, far too ready to subordinate the individual person to the authority of state or society. Hayek(1976): Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:05:46 PM EDT
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So how smart is a classical liberal? Must be off the chart classical liberal Hayek on conservatism (3) Nineteenth-century conservatism, with all its understanding of the pre-eminence of virtue and value, for all its piety towards the continuing tradition of mankind, was far too cavalier to the claims of freedom, far too ready to subordinate the individual person to the authority of state or society. Hayek(1976): Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others. Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion............. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:13:37 PM EDT
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So how smart is a classical liberal? Must be off the chart classical liberal Hayek on conservatism (3) Nineteenth-century conservatism, with all its understanding of the pre-eminence of virtue and value, for all its piety towards the continuing tradition of mankind, was far too cavalier to the claims of freedom, far too ready to subordinate the individual person to the authority of state or society. Hayek(1976): Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others. Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion............. 
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:15:34 PM EDT
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I keep threatening to write a paper "Parallels of liberal intellectuals and inbred cats" Just have not gotten to it yet, but if you think about it, there should be a lot of material out there.
Just a thought, If liberals are so smart, why are they so mad at the right? Answer is simple, we keep out smarting them. 
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:27:15 PM EDT
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Liberals spend a lot more time, energy and money than conservatives do trying to prove how smart they are. 150 grand for a PhD to try and counter what I had figured out by the 4th grade. What took you so long?  He spent 3rd grade doing the math for the proof. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:28:33 PM EDT
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"liberals control all institutions" Government leach sucking institutions, pretty much yea Private enterprise which makes this country run and represented by the US chamber of commerce, controlled by conservatives. Pshaw. Big business is not a friend of any kind of coherent conservatism, unless we define conservatism as what business wants. It never was. Marx saw it. Why don't American conservatives? As for the column, lots of holes. Liberals do control all US institutions, which is a good explanation for why intelligent people adopt liberal attitudes - to get ahead, and because intelligence correlates with education which correlates with the adoption of elite attitudes. As for the rest of it, it's just more of the old Authoritarian Personality BS that psychology has been treating us to for years. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:32:26 PM EDT
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Engaging in gross generalizations, I feel it is safe to say that social liberals are doomed.
By aborting their offspring more often, in the rarer occasions that they participate in reproductive relationships, they are engaging in behaviors that will ensure their extinction. Just not soon enough. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:37:53 PM EDT
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I refuse to read that. I am too stupid to follow the mental gymnastics it took to put that diarrhea together. Of course I'm an idiot. I'm a conservative. Well hell, the most intelligent man alive, Barry, takes 20 minutes to answer a simple question. So she must be correct. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:41:20 PM EDT
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I refuse to read that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:48:02 PM EDT
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my lame attempt at a meme
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:50:44 PM EDT
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The methodology of the study was deeply flawed and cited other deeply flawed studies, the bottom line is Psychogy is at war with their political rivals. Most of them are public employees or publicly funded.
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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:55:23 PM EDT
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This is what happens when a whole field is captured by a fringe ideology. They are now so ignorant of conservative ideas that stupid crap like this actually seems plausible. Had they actually talked to a conservative this article would have been laughed right out of the profession. Wait, "psychology" is "a profession" now? I must have missed something. Last time I checked it was just a bunch of pseudo intellectual nonsense with a good bit of Sigmund Freud fretting over his pee-pee thrown in. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 8:26:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is how they "reasonably" defined liberalism in the US: the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. What a bunch of bullshit.  This is why she is wrong and therefore not as smart as she thinks she and they are. None of those contributions of private resources for the welfare of others has done jack shit in a general sense. Witness the current administration, more unemployment checks, more government spending and more people slipping into poverty. A prosperous society is a a constitutionaly libertarian or conservative one. This society produces jobs, infrastructure, education, and all manner of great things more rapidly than any of her little hobbies she conducts by stealing other peoples money. This society has no problem providing care for the few that actually, genuinely need it. But it's focus is on generating progress that truly helps all members of society. Her social welfare concepts are nothing more than a feeble, narcissist's vain way of making themselves feel better about themselves. Conservatives and Libertarians actually expect results. She is blind, ignorant, and incapable of logical and truthful examination of the facts. It is highly likely that she lies. |
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Posted: 9/13/2010 11:52:28 PM EDT
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bump. Smug snooty article, by smug snooty people
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Posted: 9/13/2010 11:53:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: I refuse to read that. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 12:12:03 AM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
Interesting read. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 12:16:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This is what happens when a whole field is captured by a fringe ideology. They are now so ignorant of conservative ideas that stupid crap like this actually seems plausible. Had they actually talked to a conservative this article would have been laughed right out of the profession. Wait, "psychology" is "a profession" now? I must have missed something. Last time I checked it was just a bunch of pseudo intellectual nonsense with a good bit of Sigmund Freud fretting over his pee-pee thrown in. As someone who dated a psych major for a year and a half, I am inclined to agree... |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 12:18:53 AM EDT
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Still trying to find the clean end of that turd.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 12:27:42 AM EDT
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If i was held at gunpoint and told to give the best explanation for the recent conservative flight away from thinking I would not hesitate to attribute it toar too much time exposed to idiot boxes. I think they rot the brain.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 12:53:19 AM EDT
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Liberals may have the most documented education than other political movements, but they are far from more intelligent. Intelligence requires taking said education and applying it logically and practically to any given situation. They have proven over and over that they cannot do that.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 1:15:41 AM EDT
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Standard name calling by the libtards. They know we tend to pride ourselves on our ability to reason so they attack that when they want to try to hurt our feelings. They want to do this because feelings are what drive them. They think that if they can make us feel dumb we'll go along with their retarded plans.
You wanna piss of a conservative? Call him an idiot. You wanna piss off a liberal? Call him a mean nasty selfish inconsiderate jerk with no social conscience. That's what todays progressives are after all. They just don't admit it to themselves.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:08:09 AM EDT
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Liberals spend a lot more time, energy and money than conservatives do trying to prove how smart they are. 150 grand for a PhD to try and counter what I had figured out by the 4th grade. Yep..... and it's us capitalist money makers that charge them the 150 grand.
I love it when a plan comes together.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:12:48 AM EDT
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IQ of 106? Well fuck me.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:25:03 AM EDT
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Liberals do test higher on IQ. Is that because they are smarter or because there are more "liberals" found in education? It kind of makes sense that those who seek out higher degrees are going to be, on average, of higher intelligence. If they happen to be indoctrinated in a liberal way of thinking by the heavily liberal education system, then wouldn't that be correlation? Indeed. There are more liberals in higher education because it helps them delay the inevitable which is the need to get a job and earn a living. People who go out straight from school to get a job tend to have a more grounded and realistic view of the world. The worst of them, those that want to avoid working in the real word at all costs, are usually the professional academics... or terminal preppies as we refer to them, are the ones that are so scared to go itno the real world that they prefer to stay instead within a system that has carried and protected them since they were 4 years old. It should come as no surprise that while the rest of us are earning a living and contributing to our economy, society and the furtherment of our technology, these terminal preppies are sat in their academic bubblewrap telling us how wrong we are and that the are thinking the wrong way, and doing it the wrong way, and that we must listen to them.......despite the fact they have zero experience of the real world and no common sense. I can therefore say with a significant degree of confidence, that what they say doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:25:15 AM EDT
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coffee kickin' in. The article spends a lot of time equating giving away resources to liberalism, proving that liberalism is therefore more altruistic and thus smarter etc.
Correct me if i'm wrong, and i'm not, but hasn't it been shown repeatedly that conservatives, and in particular, Christian conservatives donate substantially more of their personal income and resources to charitable organizations and causes than other broad demographics? huh. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:27:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Funny, I am so conservative fiscally and mostly socially that I make Rush look like a libtard yet my IQ tested 3 different times through my life has average 40 points higher than their "elite liberal IQ's". I guess because I chose the military and followed it with skilled blue collar work I wasted it though huh? So you scored an 80? |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:34:30 AM EDT
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Interestingly enough, someone posted an article completely discrediting the report and acknowledging that the psychological community is so liberal that nothing they say about Conservatives can be trusted as good science.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:42:25 AM EDT
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Huh? I don't get it. Is there a Cliff-notes version? Something with more better pictures too? Cliffnotes: Libtard says : "bla bla bla bla white noise bla bla bla" Conservative says: "meh" |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:43:08 AM EDT
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Liberalism is a metal disease. How else could their views of how the world works, be so devoid of reality. Like rust? |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:08:59 AM EDT
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She seems to imply that liberals are a more evolved (and therefore superior) form of human because of their naive political philosophy. I personally believe the footage of the aftermath of hurricane Katrina disproves this, but what do I know? I'm just a caveman.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:21:35 AM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
Interesting read. Commenting on the War on Terror, Kanazawa claimed that "there is one resource that our enemies have in abundance but we don’t: hate. Hatred of enemies has always been a proximate emotional motive for war throughout human evolutionary history." He then offers the following thought experiment: "Imagine that, on September 11, 2001, when the Twin Towers came down, the President of the United States was not George W. Bush, but Ann Coulter. What would have happened then? On September 12, President Coulter would have ordered the US military forces to drop 35 nuclear bombs throughout the Middle East, killing all of our actual and potential enemy combatants, and their wives and children. On September 13, the war would have been over and won, without a single American life lost. Yes, we need a woman in the White House, but not the one who’s running (Hillary Clinton, ed.)".[11] ^ Psychology Today : "Why we are losing this war", 2008 I...don't know what to say..... 
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:25:43 AM EDT
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The author has obviously never met with those "liberals" standing in welfare lines or the "liberal" I helped change a flat on the side of the road who didn't quite know where the spare tire was stowed in his own car or my "liberal" neighbor who thinks all guns should be banned but wants me to come over and shoot every puff-adder she sees in the yard or my "liberal" unemployed SIL who gave all of her Mother's money to a con-man because he "loved her" - Intellectual Supermen one and all
The funny thing about "evolutionarily novel" traits in nature is that most of them fail and result in the demise of the affected members of the species. We can only hope 
and yes, the smug factor is strong with this one 
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:32:39 AM EDT
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What rubbish. I get the argument (not that I believe it) that liberals are more caring, thus are more willing to give to complete strangers. What the writer doesn't elaborate on, however, is that liberals want to give away other peoples' money. Liberals are known to keep their own money, hell, just looking at Bidens and Obama's tax returns,, their charitable donations are a soupscon of their income...atypical in my experience,,but they will give YOUR money away by the handful |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:32:50 AM EDT
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Liberals spend a lot more time, energy and money than conservatives do trying to prove how smart they are. 150 grand for a PhD to try and counter what I had figured out by the 4th grade. 
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:37:35 AM EDT
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considering their belief systems and policy consistently leads to thuggish, oppressive, governments who spend their time executing their citizens between collapses... allow me to disagree. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:38:25 AM EDT
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it makes me sad that psychology today has fallen this far.
it used to be a semi-respected publication |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:42:51 AM EDT
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I don't usually hold a very high opinion of psychology or psychologists, so what is written in their trade rag doesn't interest me.
or in conservative speak (apparently): dem Daggum shrinks ain't know there assholes from they're elbows, and i cain't read anyhow, so Im a-look at the pitchers in my monster truck magazine. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 3:50:18 AM EDT
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well, I'm a classical liberal...does that mean I'm smart?
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