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Wooe there OP, I didn't say I was chaffing at the bit to find a wife! I just want to start meeting women & spending time getting to know some of them as friends. The only woman I have spent any time with in 17 yrs was my ex. I know there has to be some real winners out there though! At 44 I'm to young to plan on never holding the hand of a woman, or feeling her hair on my face or her lips against mine. I miss all the intamicy of a friend & a lover. |
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What else do I know about them?
A good percentage of them will use you for various reasons, without giving you a hope or a chance of getting into a relationship with them. |
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Something that matters to a woman will change every 2.7 seconds. Don't ever try and figure them out.
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You be yourself and don't pretend to be something you are not.They get enough BS thrown at them that the average woman can smell BS as its walking in the door. Even the most unlikely,unsociable and repulsive person has a mate out there,you just have slightly more limited options and that guy can't afford to be as picky in their choices. You treat someone likea person and you'd be amazed how much you can accomplish in a short time in terms of getting to know them.
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I heard that the best place to pick up chicks is weddings and funerals. Hell, they even made a movie about it.
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i like this womans taste in cars!!!!!!!!!! but let us not discount the fact that SOME '70 '71 cars didn't suck, but that ALL '73 through the next decade did............. but onto topic............. yall should have seen me today, damn did i do everything right!!! had the style, had the confidence, knew what was going on, etc. i stepped up, told those fuckers that they needed to get the hell out of my way cause they didn't know what the fuck was going on, got out my goodies, rewired the fuel pump and got that mustang running in no time flat. step 2: doing something similar with females around |
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Two observations: 1) Treat them like any other cloven-hooved animal, and you should be fine. 2) I doubt that, most of the time, the male ego is aware he *didn't* initiate the encounter. |
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Confidence and the ability to speak and make them laugh are #1. You CANNOT substitute good looks for the ability to make a woman laugh. Look at the biggest dork out there....if he's funny and has confidence, chicks will be all over him!
Good looks matter less. |
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Hope springs eternal. |
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I never saw the class clown gettin the chicks.... it was always the big, dumb jocks. |
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I don't see the disagreement here. |
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There is someone for everyone,and just as HS guys fixate on a limited range of female classmates often to the exclusion of otherwise very good girls, so too you might get younger girls going strictly for the jocks that you mentioned. The behavior is not limited to just women,and has more to do with the age of the person involved. As people get older they expand their horizons as to the partners they'll consider. |
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Listen to this guy. Seriously. Whatever his "secret" is....... you want in on it. |
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Women are evil and make us men do stupid things. That's the end of it, and no one will be able to argue that.
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Workin' on a Mustang, eh? Were you havin' flashbacks? What year was it? Edit: the Mustang, not the flashback. |
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Next best thing? Go camping with TRG and 1GR! |
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Different things work for different women.
In my younger days I had to count on my good looks and confidence. Now I am older, wiser AND married! Seriously though, I would just start talking to them. Just a normal conversation. They let me know soon enough if they were interested by their body language, demeanor, etc. You just have to know how to pick up on that. If you move too fast you scare them off or look like a creep. If you move too slow they lose interest. You have to have a knack for it and like many things it starts young. For guys who have been through a nasty divorce, breakup, etc it is important to get over your animosity for the fairer sex. There are a lot of psychos with low character but there are some damn fine ones out there also. Just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. IOW a chick who is just looking for a wallet ain't worth spit. Neither is a skank. Choose carefully. I'll give you an example: Mine. After 23 years of marriage and 26 years together my wife and I are best friends. We respect each other absolutely and would never betray one another. There is almost nothing I wouldn't do for her - not out of desperate love but out of loyalty and respect. I trust her with everything and vice versa. We NEVER lie to one another and after many years we can talk about anything. I think one of our secrets to success was never taking cheap shots at one another when we fought. I have been around some couples who fight dirty and I'll tell you the things they say to one another I would not have ever forgotten. That shit comes back every time there is stress. We made it through a lot. People say that makes your marriage stronger. Not true in the short term. But after your marriage survives all of that you feel as if it can survive almost anything. Long winded, sorry. |
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Oh really now,if I recall you were broke when we got together! It wasn't till we moved that you started making big bucks. And you still have your bucks don't ya,big boy! Mona |
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Here is a link to a book I bought last night on my way to work. I read about 1/2 of it & it is pretty good at explaining what womenz like/don't like, & how to get them to want you.
menofccr.com/ Enjoy |
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When it comes to MEETING women the looks/confidence thing matters most.
When it comes to KEEPING the woman then the money comes into play. It's a must. -Jason M |
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Everyone wants to live ina comfortable lifestyle, whether you are male or female. All other things being equal and you had to choose between a female with a substantial bank account and one just this side of poverty, which would YOU go for? That choice is even more critical for women because of their more limited options, especially once kids are involved. |
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I agree with the first couple of responders. It's all about the Hamiltons. |
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I disagree. I think that is a major factor for plenty of women but certainly not all. I dated plenty in my younger days and was a dirt poor Marine. I married a great gal who had her choice of men. They ain't all out for a wallet and those who are I have found to be shallow and superficial. IOW, not worth the effort anyhow. Plenty of nutty women out there but there are good ones. Keep looking until you find one is my advice. |
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Couldn't have said it better... |
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Women love sincerity.
Once you learn to fake that, you're in like Flint. |
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Calling all women gold diggers is a cop-out for losers who don't want to face the real reasons why they are rejected. |
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that's telling it straight! |
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Painless, you positivly ARE the poster of truth! |
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You da man, Duke! That's some VERY good advice. I particularly like the one about "Don't hesitate, or..." That explains perfectly why I'm a lifelong bachelor. Also, the last two points are very informative, especially the last one. But everything you have said is consistant with my 54 years of experience. Here's one of my own that I can share with you guys: Everthing you do for her (once you have her) carries the same number of "points". What matters is how many points you pile up on a consistant basis, you cannot "catch up" on points by doing some "big" thing once you fall behind on points. Example: Bring home a rose for her = one point. Buy her a new car = one point. Translation; you're much better off doing lots of little things for her than trying to make up for all the little things you didn't do with one "big" thing, because it's all worth the same number of points! |
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+1 I've known lots of guys that got wimminz by throwing around and/or flashing the Benjamins and Hamiltons........ oddly enough, those are the exact women they attracted. When they ran out, so did the wimminz. It's not hard to do the math; a lot of it depends on the bait you use........ money, humor, dashing good looks, sincerity, etc. (or in my case: all of the above, less money ) |
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Could be the wimminz don't think they have a big enough cock to satisfy your friends. That said, all good advice. Some people on here now owe you money. |
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Girls lie too. |
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That's going to be your biggest problem right there. Quit being so self conscious. It comes across as insecure--and that will kill your prospects about as fast as anything. Best advice I can give is just relax! Be yourself. Be confident but not cocky. Be interested in other people. Don't worry so much about yourself. |
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... How fast I get get the blindfold, gag, and restraints on them and get them in my trunk w/o anyone seeing.
Joking. |
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Well, she looked like she was about 22 or so, & I'm 44. I really am not looking for a girl that young. I would say 30 to 40 would bw good for me. |
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It's like Chris Rock said: Women are offered Dick all day long from every where. That is a true statement if there ever was one. No matter who the girl is she can get laid in ten minutes flat. So where does that leave you? Others have pointed it out, pay her no attention and she will wonder why you are not offering her your dick.
Now does that mean you just don't talk to the girl? No! Talk and be you enjoy your time all the time. Just don't fall over yourself whipping it out and offering it to her. Another thing, don't be a puss. Don't down yourself don't belittle yourself in any way. That is an instant turn off. Like others say, be confident in yourself and always have the attitude that you don't care if she does you or not. Because it is true, if she does you great if not fine there are about 3.5 billion other women on the planet that have the same equipment as she does and she is not special. |
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I have read that treating them like your interested in who they are, & not like they are just a sex object is what they really crave. They want validation as a person, not an object. Is that possible? |
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Hmpf! Not this one. |
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Thanks man. It was all learned the hard way. Since the above just covers how to get the date, I've added some things I've found to be important for the next steps in the relationship... * Be the the alpha male. Again, that does not mean you need to be an ass. You can take control of a situation while still being a gentleman. That means you do the driving if you guys are taking her car (unless she objects of course), stepping up and reserving the table under your name when you get to the restaurant, being assertive without stirring shit up when someone is talking in the movie theater, etc.. etc.. * If a woman is nice to you but mean to the waiter, she's a wench underneath. Dump her if you're in it for the long haul. I've never met a women that was so beautiful that you could overlook a vitriolic personality for more than a few weeks. * If you are trying to get her to sleep with you and she stops you, the worst thing you could do is try to pressure her more. All that does is make her resist more. Just cuddle up close to her so that the sexual tension does not fade (a strategically positioned leg between her thighs works wonders here), and act like you couldn't care less if you have sex, talk to her, and she'll be begging for it soon enough (and let her beg a little). The more you talk to her before you have sex, the less guilty (and more willing) she will feel. * Women are wired differently! Guys think that since we got one button to press, women are the same. A woman doesn't want you to go straight to the erogenous zones like we do, they want to be teased. Beat around the bush, build up the anticipation before diving in. *She's freakier than she lets you think * If you're just looking to play the field, don't lead her on. You can still get her to sleep with you without saying a lot of shit you don't mean. Trust me, it's not worth the drama. I'm always honest and let them know subtly that I am not going to settle down at this point in my life. If they enjoy being around you, they will stick around. Sometimes, it makes them want you more but without building the emotional attachment that will make them go psychotic on you. It's good if you have a good reason. I travel a lot and have basically dedicated the next 2 years to living it up getting things out of my system before settling down. It is understood by the women I'm dating that I may meet up with another woman when I'm on the road and although they may not like it and oppose it at first, they've come to accept it (this does NOT mean you need to tell them about your conquests!). I'm sure to let them know this is just the way I feel at the moment. I don't think they would stick around if I told them I never would want to settle down. Use with caution |
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So,...uhmmmm, DukeSnookems, you must do pretty good with the girls. Most of your advice is textbook from the books I've been reading.
1. Women want to be sure you care about who they are, not just their body. 2. Confidence, or showing yourself as though you see your valuable is very important. 3. Treat a girl like a friend, it tales the pressure off, & makes them want you. But don't make yourself 100 % at their disposal or you will become a doormat. 4. Listen to what they say they like or don't like & use it to plan any future dates. 5. Make contact quickly if she intrest you, or you will appear weak. He who hesitates is lost. 6. When you talk about yourself, be positive. No girl wants a man who thinks himself a loser. 7. Men who get lots of women, & who act like jerks fit into 1 of 3 catagories. 1.Rich, 2.Celebrity,or 3. Great looking. Because of this special status women put up with their crap later on in the relationship. The rest of us have to be nice guys. 8. Compliments or kindness without sincerity is seen right through, so don't fake it. Look for something you can compliment and really mean. 9. Women can make an emotional connection with you if you let them tell you how they "feel", that doesn't mean you have to tell them how you feel. Leave that till they make a more solid connection with you. Just listen & tell them you understand why they feel that way. {I bet this really applies to us guys, as brothers of the gun} I would be sure it would scare off most women to know how strong we feel about things that scare them to death. So learning to listen to them even if you think what they are saying is stupid or boring can go a long ways to making a real emotional connection, which is very important to them. I am learning. I still think what Old Painless said is hilarious though. |
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I just finished a book on what makes women tick, it was easy to read. It consisted of 467 blank pages.
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Someone should PhotoShop an anatomic "cross-section" pic of a woman, and title it "What Makes A Woman Tick." Then paste a pic of a ticking time bomb over where her heart should be. |
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