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Posted: 9/6/2008 12:20:39 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
@ OP

Off topic but uh.... what is a "FUDD"?

My older bro is kind of like that... he doesn't like much besides bolt rifles.
Thinks anything else is stupid/pointless.

Fudds are the guys that would sell other gun owners down the river just so they can keep their "right to hunt". It has nothing to do with what type of firearms they own.

These guys. (warning, enter at your own risk. That organization is a known Brady Center front.)

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:29:27 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't believe you.

I'm contemplating IM'ing you in "strict confidence" and if you choose to ignore my request, you and ARFcom can take the heat for "publishing" it. (although I'd get named in any suit without doubt).

I believe if you think about it for a bit, you'll recognize it would amount to a massive waste of time and energy.

I swear that is what he said.

If any company representative told me that, I'd have their name in bold in the thread title.

this

being called a murderer is too far off the edge. absolutely unacceptable business practice and a disgusting breach of professionalism

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:30:58 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
@ OP

Off topic but uh.... what is a "FUDD"?

My older bro is kind of like that... he doesn't like much besides bolt rifles.
Thinks anything else is stupid/pointless.

Fudds are the guys that would sell other gun owners down the river just so they can keep their "right to hunt". It has nothing to do with what type of firearms they own.

These guys. (warning, enter at your own risk. That organization is a known Brady Center front.)

Whoa... I find it strange people can believe the only purpose for guns is for hunting.

For me hunting is an after thought.

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:42:03 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Name names or GTFO and LOCK.

Seriously. Fuck this guy if there is no name.

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:43:58 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
He says: "We provide services to hunters around here, not murderers."

ETA:

Quoted:
let's have the name

I'm not going to make this a "call out" type deal. It isn't a major manufacturer.

So you're NOT going to name this business. You'd rather that unsuspecting customers who actually SUPPORT your rights continue to give money to these assholes who DON'T? Why?

You'd rather that this business perpetuate its dogma of NFA owners = murderers?

Then this is a bullshit thread and you are doing anyone who purchases from this business a great disservice by keeping them ignorant of their divisiveness and disdain for the Second Amendment.

What a crock of shit. You're trolling either way and your account should be locked.

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:47:15 AM EDT

[#6]

Suggestion:

OP provides company name, or OP gets the banhammer.

You can't tell us there are jackasses like that within our midsts and then not give us what we need to root them out.

Companies with that mindset aren't just an annoyance, they are a threat.

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:47:30 AM EDT

[#7]

Ban

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:50:10 AM EDT

[#8]

If you weren't going to name names then you shouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

Calling owners of SBS "murderers" is beyond the pale, even for a "sporting" manufacturer & should not be tolerated under any circumstances.

So either tell us who they are so they can be righteously "Zumbo'ed" or drop the subject & ask that this thread be locked.

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:51:29 AM EDT

[#9]

This thread is a waste of my fucking time if I don't even know who not to buy from

Posted: 9/6/2008 12:56:29 AM EDT

[#10]

An SBS is something only a murderer would use? I guess what he means is that if it isn't
configured for hunting its only purpose is for murdering. Understood

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:00:38 AM EDT

[#11]

Yep, I'm hoistin' it.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:00:59 AM EDT

[#12]

It's ...

Pumps & More, Inc.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:01:24 AM EDT

[#13]

Posting a story like this and not naming the company/store who said it is just fucking stupid.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:02:54 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Yep, I'm hoistin' it.

I'll see that and raise you:

If a 'well known shotgun company' actually said that, out with the name, or you are making shit up.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:04:10 AM EDT

[#15]

Chicken fuckin shit.

The FIRST thing I would want to do is get the name out there. Hit them where it hurts.
If they dont support your rights, you shouldnt support them with your money.

Either this story is 100% BULLSHIT, or the thread starter is a pussy.

Sorry bro, un-ass the name, or GTFO.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:04:16 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

+

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:04:16 AM EDT

[#17]

(double)

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:07:07 AM EDT

[#18]

Why bother telling us this if you won't tell us who did it? Unless it didn't really happen, of course.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:10:53 AM EDT

[#19]

name or bAn for pointless shit stirring.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:24:54 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
I don't believe you.

Oh, and BTW, I guess I'm an evil murderer, since I own an SBS...

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:43:12 AM EDT

[#21]

since I'm currently in the market for a shotgun before waterfowl season starts here, please tell us the name, or someone baninate him. seriously.

otherwise, just IM me with the name so that I can avoid this manufacturer like the plague when I make my purchase.

seriously, this thread is worthless without a name, and accomplishes nothing. Way to go.

Posted: 9/6/2008 1:55:38 AM EDT

[#22]

Why even start the fucking thread if you aren't going to name the company?

That's like saying, "There is a bomb in one of those buildings over there, but I don't think I should say which one because the bombers might get mad at me

"

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:01:31 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
I don't believe you.

This.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:10:27 AM EDT

[#24]

name the fucker or

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:14:58 AM EDT

[#25]

The fact some of you folks think I give a flying fuck if you believe me is amusing.

Some of your less than charitable name-calling reflects your desperation to know who, because in your gut, you know it is true.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:17:59 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
The fact some of you folks think I give a flying fuck if you believe me is amusing.

Some of your less than charitable name-calling reflects your desperation to know who, because in your gut, you know it is true.

Someone needs to post the attention whore pic.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:20:47 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
The fact some of you folks think I give a flying fuck if you believe me is amusing.

Some of your less than charitable name-calling reflects your desperation to know who, because in your gut, you know it is true.

Ya know what, fuck it... I don't care anymore. Tell/don't tell, fake/real it makes no difference to me. I'm done with this nonsense.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:24:41 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
The fact some of you folks think I give a flying fuck if you believe me is amusing.

Some of your less than charitable name-calling reflects your desperation to know who, because in your gut, you know it is true.

Well what do you expect? You tell us there is a gun company that doesn't that doesn't support the Second Amendment, something we rabidly support and are willing to fight and die for, but then don't tell the name. Yeah, it kinda pisses people off.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:28:58 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Big shotgun name in Texas that is somewhat apprehensive to do tactical work

I have a pretty good idea who it is

their name start with a B?

if not I will delete my post

Yeah, they might get all choked up about NFA type stuff.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:28:58 AM EDT

[#30]

1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:32:30 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:33:12 AM EDT

[#32]

If you're telling the truth, what do you have to worry about? It's not slander if it's true.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:34:54 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
@ OP

Off topic but uh.... what is a "FUDD"?

My older bro is kind of like that... he doesn't like much besides bolt rifles.
Thinks anything else is stupid/pointless.

Fudds are the guys that would sell other gun owners down the river just so they can keep their "right to hunt". It has nothing to do with what type of firearms they own.

These guys. (warning, enter at your own risk. That organization is a known Brady Center front.)

Whoa... I find it strange people can believe the only purpose for guns is for hunting.

For me hunting is an after thought.

That bunch is a VPC bait&switch organization so that they can say that there are FUDDs that support their 'reasonable' controls on EBRs and a renewed AWB.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:35:43 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Jinx

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:36:26 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

Please brush up on the definition of slander.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:40:40 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Jinx

No jinx... I was 42 seconds ahead of you

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:42:20 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Yes, as I said.

Yet, somehow, the name-calling and BS flags should convince me that I should "plug in the hairdryer while sitting in the bathtub" by naming the name?

If some think it's false and call me a liar it ONLY increases the danger of "completing the circuit" by saying who, because truth is one's only defense and I don't tape record every phone call I make. Further, Mr. Fudd Shotgun Co. Customer Service Rep. will only lie, deny and make shit up when confronted with the fact he basically called a potential customer a murderer for asking for a legal bit of gunsmithing.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:44:55 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Yes, as I said.

Yet, somehow, the name-calling and BS flags should convince me that I should "plug in the hairdryer while sitting in the bathtub" by naming the name?

If some think it's false and call me a liar it ONLY increases the danger of "completing the circuit" by saying who, because truth is one's only defense and I don't tape record every phone call I make. Further, Mr. Fudd Shotgun Co. Customer Service Rep. will only lie, deny and make shit up when confronted with the fact he basically called a potential customer a murderer for asking for a legal bit of gunsmithing.

Oh the drama of it all!

And you know what? Just like you will be will taking my "rational" view on the existence of God into account in the future, I will be taking your "irrational" behavior in this thread into account in the future.

Touché

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:46:39 AM EDT

[#39]

Why did you post this thread?

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:48:58 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Yes, as I said.

Yet, somehow, the name-calling and BS flags should convince me that I should "plug in the hairdryer while sitting in the bathtub" by naming the name?

If some think it's false and call me a liar it ONLY increases the danger of "completing the circuit" by saying who, because truth is one's only defense and I don't tape record every phone call I make. Further, Mr. Fudd Shotgun Co. Customer Service Rep. will only lie, deny and make shit up when confronted with the fact he basically called a potential customer a murderer for asking for a legal bit of gunsmithing.

You don't want any potential legal trouble, that's perfectly reasonable. But then why even make the thread in the first place? Without naming the company for us to boycott, what do you want us to do? Hug you because you got your feelings hurt?

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:49:56 AM EDT

[#41]

IM me their name, I will call requesting the same as you did, and if I get the same response, I will post their name here. Can you do this?

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:50:51 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Why did you post this thread?

drama

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:51:46 AM EDT

[#43]

Tag.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:51:55 AM EDT

[#44]

AROptics,

You have your IM Function turned off.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:52:26 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1. Some don't believe me
2. Because I won't name the name
3. So I should name the name
4. And after naming the name, I may be seen to have "slandered" (were it false) a company that likely has attorneys on retainer
5. So I may be subject to a lawsuit
6. Where victory or defeat depends on being believed?

That's the logic of naming the name?

it's not slander if it's true.

Yes, as I said.

Yet, somehow, the name-calling and BS flags should convince me that I should "plug in the hairdryer while sitting in the bathtub" by naming the name?

If some think it's false and call me a liar it ONLY increases the danger of "completing the circuit" by saying who, because truth is one's only defense and I don't tape record every phone call I make. Further, Mr. Fudd Shotgun Co. Customer Service Rep. will only lie, deny and make shit up when confronted with the fact he basically called a potential customer a murderer for asking for a legal bit of gunsmithing.

Are you serious?

How old are you?

This childish.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:52:37 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
AROptics,

You have your IM Function turned off.

I can't imagine why?

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:53:50 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
AROptics,

You have your IM Function turned off.

How convenient.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:54:13 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why did you post this thread?

drama

bingo

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:56:12 AM EDT

[#49]

If you're bored, cook up a wal mart story or post a car wash adventure. Don't invent some outrageous event with a firearms manufacturer. You should well know that this community will get to the bottom of it and make sure a major infraction like that will get corrected.

Posted: 9/6/2008 2:56:58 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
Why did you post this thread?

1. Because it is true, happened yesterday. I've got an old Scattergun Tech 870 with accessories that require the old "light profile" barrel that seems now to only be available with ribs. Police 870 replacement barrels are no longer the so-called "light profile" and are too fat too take the old accessories. No one wants to deal with removing ribs so I was calling around to see if anyone would or could provide me an NFA light profile 870 barrel, or cut one I provided.

Also, the 870 came with a out of spec Mossberg replacement barrel that hangs up at the barrel lug an ancient Laser Technologies (now Surefire) foreend.

2. Because I wanted to know how other deals with egregious cases of Fuddgetry.

3. Now that I see your second post I see you are irked so go ahead and lock the thread rather than lock me for telling the truth about a genuine incident.

4. IM inbound

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