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I will be there on 1/20 to stand with my VA neighbors.
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That would seal the Republicans doom as a state-level party in Virginia. ETA: I kinda like it, it leaves room for a true pro-liberty party. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Those of you saying not to carry a long gun on 1/20 better rethink your stance. ETA: I kinda like it, it leaves room for a true pro-liberty party. |
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So if the left has decided that what we all fear is inevitable and they are going to try to push this all to go hot....
Why Virginia? What about Virginia gives them an advantage? |
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All the more reason to be openly defiant. View Quote Like when LEOs say they will never comply with antigun orders, most will. When patriots say they will not comply with antigun laws, most will. I guess we will find out where both sides stand on the 20th |
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lol When would the public carry one be in effect? Certainly not by the 1/20 rally? It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats. |
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Well, huh. A few minutes ago I had some other stuff to say. Now I don't.
Either being intentionally provoked, or they think they can do whatever they want. Or both. |
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Fuck these people.
We need to be making as much noise on every form of social media possible about this. We need the whole god damned world watching us. And then we need to jam this up their collective assholes sideways. |
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So if the left has decided that what we all fear is inevitable and they are going to try to push this all to go hot.... Why Virginia? What about Virginia gives them an advantage? View Quote After it goes hot (not when, after) - they can blame it on "South will Rise Again" Racists, Nazis, etc. I'm personally to the point where I do not believe there is a way for Virginians to retain their rights without ultimately violent resistance. The amount of bills pre-filed and the attempts to shut down any sort of dissent show me they are all in, and don't care. |
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So if the left has decided that what we all fear is inevitable and they are going to try to push this all to go hot.... Why Virginia? What about Virginia gives them an advantage? View Quote |
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If they actually pass the HB 426 Prohibited public carrying of certain firearms bill, this year it might not send a strong enough message (tho, still think with that many people showing, it'll be strong enough). But if done next year, and a lot of people show up open carrying, then it'll show liberals that gun owners don't care about their unconstitutional laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol When would the public carry one be in effect? Certainly not by the 1/20 rally? It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats. |
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Hell down here in Flo we will be losing our weapons via amendment next election. It wont be our lawmakers that screw us but our neighbors
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Every single one of those bills is trash. They solve no problem and only create criminals out of thin air. View Quote |
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Good luck and Godspeed to the good, freedom loving citizens of Virginia. I hope you guys can beat this. As someone from New York I used to dream about escaping and fleeing to a free state. Now a lot of those states have fallen or are in danger from the Left.
If you guys can't hold the line this cancer will only spread. Also remember that the MSM is not your friend, and will actively work against you. |
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I see this coming to ahead and God I hope it does not happen but I fear that there are going to be some of those who have no more f**** to give and I are going to act out in a way that there's going to be bloodshed
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I encourage every out of stater going to VA to have an E&E plan out of Richmond.
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Fyck that, they're rubbing salt in the wound. Sheriff's already say that leo won't comply. My buddy from VAi seen last week said. Nobody gives a fyck what they think they're gonna do. So fyck'em.
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These people might want to rethink what they are wagering before they roll the dice.
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Those laws will destroy any career or life you might of had and make becoming a hit-man or assassin very attractive.
Hopefully Jan 20 will be a very strong presence to make them retreat their ideas. |
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This is Battle of Athens type shit. Just because you get elected doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
If there was ever a Hill to pick this is it. |
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They are doubling down again. If I missed any, please let me know. (Updated... I missed some!) HB 426 Prohibited public carrying of certain firearms; penalty. Prohibited public carrying of certain firearms; penalty. Prohibits the carrying of a loaded shotgun or rifle in places open to the public in certain cities and counties. Current law prohibits the carrying in such locations of certain loaded firearms with high-capacity magazines, silencers, folding stock, or long ammunition or a loaded shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered. The bill also eliminates a current exception to the prohibition on carrying such firearms in places open to the public for persons having a valid concealed handgun permit. SB 240 Firearms; removal from persons posing substantial risk of injury to himself, etc., penalties. Firearms; removal from persons posing substantial risk; penalties. Creates a procedure by which any attorney for the Commonwealth or any law-enforcement officer may apply to a general district court, circuit court, or juvenile and domestic relations district court judge or magistrate for an emergency substantial risk order to prohibit a person who poses a substantial risk of injury to himself or others from purchasing, possessing, or transporting a firearm. If an emergency substantial risk order is issued, a judge or magistrate may issue a search warrant to remove firearms from such person. An emergency substantial risk order shall expire on the fourteenth day following issuance of the order. The bill requires a court hearing in the circuit court for the jurisdiction where the order was issued within 14 days from issuance of an emergency substantial risk order to determine whether a substantial risk order should be issued. Seized firearms shall be retained by a law-enforcement agency for the duration of an emergency substantial risk order or a substantial risk order or, for a substantial risk order and with court approval, may be transferred to a third party 21 years of age or older chosen by the person from whom they were seized. The bill allows the complainant of the original warrant to file a motion for a hearing to extend the substantial risk order prior to its expiration. The court may extend the substantial risk order for a period not longer than 180 days. The bill provides that persons who are subject to a substantial risk order, until such order has been dissolved by a court, are guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor for purchasing, possessing, or transporting a firearm; are disqualified from having a concealed handgun permit; and may not be employed by a licensed firearms dealer. The bill also provides that a person who transfers a firearm to a person he knows has been served with a warrant or who is the subject of a substantial risk order is guilty of a Class 4 felony. The bill creates a computerized substantial risk order registry for the entry of orders issued pursuant to provisions in the bill. HB 355 Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks, penalty. Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks; penalty. Requires a background check for any firearm transfer and requires the Department of State Police to establish a process for transferors of firearms to obtain such a check from licensed firearms dealers. A transferor who fails to obtain a required background check and sells the firearm to another person is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The bill exempts transfers (i) between immediate family members; (ii) that occur by operation of law; (iii) by the executor or administrator of an estate or by the trustee of a testamentary trust; (iv) at firearms shows in accordance with law; (v) that are part of a buyback or give-back program; (vi) of antique firearms; (vii) that occur at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or any other area designed for the purpose of target shooting or for use during target practice, a firearms safety or training course or class, a shooting competition, or any similar lawful activity; or (viii) that are temporary transfers that (a) occur within the continuous presence of the owner of the firearm or (b) are necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. The bill removes the provision that makes background checks of prospective purchasers or transferees at firearms shows voluntary. HB 425 Transfer of multiple firearms; report to the Department of State Police. Transfer of multiple firearms; report to the Department of State Police. Requires any dealer who sells, trades, or transfers more than two firearms to an individual in a single transaction to report such transaction to the Department of State Police. The bill also provides that the State Police shall maintain multiple firearms transaction records for 12 months. Current law states that State Police shall maintain multiple handgun transaction records for 12 months. HB 427 Manufacture, import, sale, transfer, or possession of undetectable firearms; penalty. Manufacture, import, sale, transfer, or possession of undetectable firearms; penalty. Creates a Class 5 felony for any person who manufactures, imports, sells, transfers, or possesses any firearm that, after removal of all parts other than a major component, defined in the bill, is not detectable as a firearm by the types of detection devices, including X-ray machines, commonly used at airports for security screening. The bill updates language regarding the types of detection devices that are used at airports for detecting plastic firearms. HB 421 Firearms, ammunition, etc.; control by localities by governing possession, etc., within locality. Control of firearms by localities. Grants localities authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance, resolution, or motion governing the possession, carrying, storage, or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof in the locality. Various provisions limiting such authority are repealed. Provisions limiting the authority of localities and state governmental entities to bring lawsuits against certain firearms manufacturers and others are also repealed. The bill also provides an exception to the requirement that an ordinance enacted regarding the disposition of certain firearms acquired by localities must provide that any firearm received be offered for sale by public auction or sealed bids to a person licensed as a dealer. The bill allows such ordinance to provide that if the individual surrendering the firearm requests in writing that the firearm be destroyed, then such firearm will be destroyed by the locality. HB 463 Allowing access to firearms by minors; penalty. Allowing access to firearms by minors; penalty. Provides that any person who negligently leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any person under the age of 18 is guilty of a Class 6 felony. Current law provides that any person who recklessly leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any child under the age of 14 is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. HB 459 Possession or transporttion of firearms following convictions for certain misdemeanor crimes. Possession or transportation of firearms following convictions for certain misdemeanor crimes; restoration of rights; penalty. Prohibits a person who has been convicted of assault and battery when the person intentionally selects the person against whom a simple assault is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color, or national origin from possessing or transporting a firearm. A person who violates this provision is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The bill provides for a process by which a person convicted of such crimes may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his right to possess or transport a firearm. HB 458 Purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms; fugitives; penalty. Purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms; fugitives; penalty. Provides that it is a Class 1 misdemeanor for any person who is a fugitive to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm. The bill also updates the criminal history record information check form to inquire if the applicant is a fugitive, as defined in the bill. HB 450 Appeal of involuntary admission order; possession of firearms; penalty. Appeal of involuntary admission order; possession of firearms; penalty. Provides that a person who is involuntarily admitted or ordered to mandatory outpatient treatment may not purchase, possess, or transport a firearm until his right to do so is restored by a court regardless of the outcome of any appeal of that order. A violation of this prohibition is a Class 1 misdemeanor. A third or subsequent offense is punishable as a Class 6 felony. HB 318 Ammunition for a firearm on school property; Class 1 misdemeanor for possession, penalty. Possession of ammunition on school property; penalty. Provides that a person is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor if he knowingly possesses ammunition for a firearm upon (i) the property of any public, private, or religious elementary, middle, or high school, including buildings and grounds; (ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (iii) any school bus owned or operated by any such school. HB 260 Firearms; transfer, criminal history record check delay. Transfer of firearms; criminal history record check delay; penalty. Increases from the end of the next business day to within five business days the time in which State Police must advise a dealer if its records indicate that a firearms buyer or transferee is prohibited from possessing or transporting a firearm and the time after which a dealer may complete the sale or transfer without a response from the State Police. The bill removes the option in current law that a dealer may immediately complete the sale or transfer if he is advised by the State Police that a response will not be available within the required timeframe. HB 264 Concealed handgun permits; demonstration of competence. Concealed handgun permits; demonstration of competence. Removes the option for concealed handgun permit applicants to demonstrate competence with a handgun by completing an electronic, video, or online course conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor. The bill does not affect any in-person means of satisfying the requirement to demonstrate competence with a handgun under current law. View Quote |
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This is their answer to the planning of a peaceful and lawful assembly of people. How can Lobby Day be a success when dealing with these types? I'm still going! View Quote |
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Please remember that billionaires paid for these people's election campaigns. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. Until you gents in VA figure out some effective points of leverage on those people, they won't care what you have to say. They can't care. They owe Bloomberg and Soros for all that money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is their answer to the planning of a peaceful and lawful assembly of people. How can Lobby Day be a success when dealing with these types? I'm still going! |
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They did this to reduce the number of folks that show up. Probably less then 15 folks show up open carrying rifles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is their answer to the planning of a peaceful and lawful assembly of people. How can Lobby Day be a success when dealing with these types? I'm still going! If anything, this may embolden more on our side. |
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I watched this happen in VT. They rammed it through and when people came out and said "hey, wait a minute!" they just brushed them aside and passed it anyway. Our "Republican" governor said "If you bring me that gun bill, I'll sign it, just get it here." for fucks sake. They are just ramping this up in VA even bigger.
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