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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:39:53 AM EST
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fnh
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:40:10 AM EST
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^ that's the truth, Americans often take our societal values for granted and assume the rest of humankind adheres to them.
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Dude. I watched a marine administer half a dozen anchor shots in Fallujah. On fucking NBC news. They were house clearing and in a hurry.

"Our values" are very situational. I think you'll find that's the case everywhere.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:41:13 AM EST
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Are there possible "war crimes" on an invading force??? I think it's an oxymoron. Defend by all means necessary. ALL MEANS.



[BTW I am not an UkeBro, but I advocate for natural law]
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Go ask the Kia in Iraq and Chris Stevens while you are curious

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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:41:42 AM EST
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fuck russia

They 10k slaughtered women and children in Bucha.

if they want to not die, then fucking leave

he got what he deserved.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:43:23 AM EST
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Are these YouTube videos the type that get get paid for clicks ?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:43:48 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:01 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:02 AM EST
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When you invade another country and slaughter civilians, it usually doesn't turn out like a fucking children's story.
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This

FUCK RUSSIA and its pussy soldiers. I hope they all bleed out crying for mom.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:08 AM EST
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime.  "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict."

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But it's OK if Putin does it 1000X over. We get what you are doing.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:45:38 AM EST
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That’s not how you’re going to your nato membership
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:39 AM EST
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I wouldn't kill like that, but I also have not had a foreign army occupy my country.
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...and blow your family to bits.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:44 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:49 AM EST
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War, no rules except the ones on paper that each side bitches about the other side is not following.

Drones are the new snipers. Demoralizes the enemy because there is no such thing as ground cover anymore.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:50:11 AM EST
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That's silly.

You can't surrender to a drone.
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A Russian did surrender to a drone recently.  He threw away his weapon raised his hands and indicated that he wanted to walk over to Ukrainian lines.  The Ukrainians dropped notes and used drones to guide him in while the Russians tried to kill him with artillery.  He made it across and was taken prisoner.

Raising your hands while not leaving your position is different.  Does "please don't drone me" count as surrendering, if you make no attempt to enter enemy custody?  Is that surrendering, or merely pleading for them to change the rules of engagement now that the shoe is on the other foot?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:51:09 AM EST
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Orcs killing other orcs
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:52:10 AM EST
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Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies.  ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off.  

I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing,  when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in  warcrime invasion, this is what you get.  

Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially?  Putin.  He'll eventually get what's coming to him.
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+1 and fuck Russia.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:52:17 AM EST
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The pics of the little bodies they were pulling out of rubble is where my fucks ran out for fucking dead orcs.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:54:33 AM EST
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It really sucks when you start a war, murder every human being, commit every war crime, and then get your silk panties in a wad when you get paid back. Life should really suck when you invade a nation and seek to wipe them out for the pure evil of killing. I pray Putin and his enabler minions get their due. War is hell and Putin deserves the hottest part of it.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:29 AM EST
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LOL he did the jazz hands.

I feel bad for that guy but what is he doing out in the open with no long gun or side arm?  He's on his back looking directly at a drone hovering at 12:00 if he had a side arm or long gun he could of blasted that drone back to china.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:37 AM EST
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UKR-Bois are gathering now for their IO offensive on this thread, of that you can be sure.
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Looks like they aligned on shouting "Russia bad russia bad" until this goes away

Still funny how Ukraine constantly creates work for their own information operations support by letting shit like this get out.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:47 AM EST
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To all the "guys" whining about war crimes, laws, conventions in the face of an invading country:

So, if someone shot your wife in the face, then laid down their gun and surrendered, you would follow the law and wait for the police to hopefully show up and arrest them? You wouldn't be legally allowed to shoot them.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:57 AM EST
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The pics of the little bodies they were pulling out of rubble is where my fucks ran out for fucking dead orcs.
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Which dead orcs?  The Ukrainians or the Russians?  Cause both groups are orcs.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:57:26 AM EST
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Neither sides gives a damn about the rules of war.
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:57:38 AM EST
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Let's consider this. It seems like the argument that this was wrong goes something like this: if you're about to be blown up, you put your hands up and act like you surrender. If you're not about to be blown up, you just carry on engaging in combat operations. So you're not a fair target if your hands are up? How does that work? I need to change my magazine: I put my hands up, and I'm off limits, then I can go back to fighting when I'm done. Is that it? Is that a serious position that GD wants to defend?


Where is that Tweet pointing out the impetus and purpose of Russian disinfo?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:58:05 AM EST
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Where are all the Uk fan bois
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I’m over here not giving a fuck. Invader in a foreign land tried getting an RC Toy to stop dropping grenades on him? Surrender is only feasible if it’s feasible. Yeah one guy surrendered to a drone once before and was led out to Ukrainians nearby. Maybe there weren’t any within walking distance. Maybe they didn’t want a Russian walking up to their concealed position. Maybe they couldn’t logistically. handle prisoners or ti would have slowed/stopped their advance. They aren’t obligated to take them. This isn’t a kids game where you throw your hands up and the other side HAS to stop shooting. So fuck’em. You don’t want to die, don’t invade foreign lands.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:59:12 AM EST
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Looks like they aligned on shouting "Russia bad russia bad" until this goes away

Still funny how Ukraine constantly creates work for their own information operations support by letting shit like this get out.
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Let’s make a deal. I’ll keep apologizing for Ukraine as long as you keep apologizing for a pedophile
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:01:05 AM EST
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Slav on Slav crime.

Just another day in Chicago Ukraine.
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Yep both are Or*s doing Or* shit.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:13 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:40 AM EST
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Ukrainian Drone operator footage is russian disinfo
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Probably. Believe half you see and nothing you hear.  It's narrated as such, but who is really who?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:41 AM EST
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Really? What war crimes Germany did AFTER the Soviets crushed them?!?!? Actually, the result was total domination of Eastern Europe for half a century with little further local resistance.
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Are you serious?

The infamous Commissar order, Einstatzgruppen, penning up Soviet POWs in the open and deliberately starving them, a policy of food theft that starved civilians in occupied Soviet territory that rivalled the Holodmor, rape and wholesale murder enraged the Soviet people and led to a drumbeat of official vengeance propaganda (see Ilya Ehrenburg).

Soviet soldiers murdered and raped Germans in a frenzy of "vengeance" on German (and Polish and Hungarian) territory that was semi-condoned despite high level orders.

2 million rapes - some women gang raped 60+ times.  Strafing refugee columns (a German act also).  The Treuenbrietzen massacre and rapes.  In 1974 the German government estimated 400,000 deaths due to Soviet vengeance in east Germany (millions had fled before the Red Army).

Defeated, conquered, occupied and disarmed Germany was going to do what?

The Germans started it.  They got it back in spades.  Neither side was a moral beacon of good guys, but the Germans started it with their Slavic untermenschenen endlosung liebrnsraum bullshit.

Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:55 AM EST
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That's silly.

You can't surrender to a drone.

You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die.

But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret.
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime.  "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict."


That's silly.

You can't surrender to a drone.

You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die.

But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret.
Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there?

Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:04:13 AM EST
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There are no timeouts in war.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:05:00 AM EST
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Let’s make a deal. I’ll keep apologizing for Ukraine as long as you keep apologizing for a pedophile
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No, keep doing what you're doing. Ukraine's online power fans are one of the best things about seeing them lose.

and lol, scott ritter again? The guy outed as a perv by a sting op, but being into members of the opposite gender of child bearing age, so he's more normal than most of those ukraine flag accounts on twitter
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:05:09 AM EST
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They should paint “I surrender” on top of all of their bunkers.
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Perfect! Then Ukraine couldn't bomb them! It works fine for my eight year old.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:07:27 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:08:10 AM EST
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Under the Geneva and Hague conventions, as well as the laws and customs of war, the bombing of Japan was a legitimate action.

The US didn't machine guns Japanese sailors in the water (the Japanese did, and behead US sailors pulled from the water).
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Firebombing the residential part of Tokyo was legitimate? Knowing that the structures were all wood and using incendiaries deliberately is totally okay?

But dropping a grenade on a soldier is a war crime???

LOL!
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:28 AM EST
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"Look around you Colonel.....this, is not Geneva"
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:37 AM EST
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Answer: "This is our country, our homes, our families. They have no honor, and I give them no hope or refuge. I'll give bullets to anyone who fights evil. May the Orcs die and never see the Sun rise again. I surrender my freedom to no one."
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:37 AM EST
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What makes that a war crime? How is that any different than artillery hitting a troop concentration several times?

It's an honest question...
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:11:10 AM EST
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Let the Uke bros/Rus bros shit slinging begin.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:12:05 AM EST
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime.  "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict."

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Where does it say Orcs are protected by the Geneva Convention? The monsters can't even read.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:12:56 AM EST
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That's silly.

You can't surrender to a drone.

You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die.

But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret.
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Yet people have surrendered to drones.  And to attack helicopters (on the Highway of Death)

It is disingenuous to say "you can't" when it has actually happened.

Humans surrendered to a drone for the first time in 1991 .

Russian soldier surrenders to Ukrainian drone outside Bakhmut


It might be "difficult", but it is possible and a legitimate action.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:13:16 AM EST
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Unlike some modern Superpowers. Russian Soldiers are conscripts. Dude probably didn't want to be there either.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:13:32 AM EST
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Not a “war”, Putin only declared it a “special military action”.
Can you still have War Crimes if it’s not a war?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:14:03 AM EST
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Firebombing the residential part of Tokyo was legitimate? Knowing that the structures were all wood and using incendiaries deliberately is totally okay?

But dropping a grenade on a soldier is a war crime???

LOL!
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Fuck yea that is OK. I bet most of their citizens were joyous on December 7th 1941. If they became remorseful as the war went on it was only because they realized they might lose, not because they felt guilty. Also the Japanese had industry everywhere on their island. There wasn't (and even to this day isn't) a super clear delimitation of this area is for war production and this area is for living. A lot of little shops all around Japan fed larger factories with barrels, ammunition, and parts.

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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:15:10 AM EST
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Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there?

Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge.
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime.  "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict."


That's silly.

You can't surrender to a drone.

You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die.

But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret.
Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there?

Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge.


He had a choice.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:26 AM EST
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If they were in (insert your state here) raping and killing Americans, would you still feel the same way about Geneva conventions?

Honest question.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:33 AM EST
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Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there?

Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge.
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Yes, he did have a choice. Three million Russians left the country rather than murder Ukrainians. They knew right from wrong and chose wisely. Screw those who didn't.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:42 AM EST
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Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there?

Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge.
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Are you saying he had no choices between the war starting and the second drop?

I know four different guys who dodged mobilization. Two left the country. One payed off the registrar. And the last one knocked up his girlfriend and got married.
So the only people getting sent to front against their will are both stupid and poor.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:17:02 AM EST
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Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies.  ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off.  

I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing,  when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in  warcrime invasion, this is what you get.  

Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially?  Putin.  He'll eventually get what's coming to him.
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Where are all the Uk fan bois



Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies.  ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off.  

I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing,  when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in  warcrime invasion, this is what you get.  

Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially?  Putin.  He'll eventually get what's coming to him.




This is why this website is a fucking ghostown.
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