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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:43:09 AM EDT
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I wouldn't send them squat. What happened the last time we sent them? Off to the smelters. If I were to send something I would damn sure want a return receipt. 96Ag |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:44:43 AM EDT
[#2]
I think you'd better get a packed lunch 
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:46:44 AM EDT
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Just like in the States he will get arrested on suspicion and just like in 99.99% of the cases will be released without charge. If the Police really were being serious they would have challenged Bail, they didn't, the arrest is just going through the motions while the Public Prosecutor has a look at the facts. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:47:02 AM EDT
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too fucked up
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:48:20 AM EDT
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And as usual you would be wrong. All those guns were dumped at sea into Beauforts Dyke in 1945 at the express orders of the US .Gov… |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:52:21 AM EDT
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Yep… Once again the ARFCOM 'experts' are stating what the law in the UK is about assaulting 'fleeing felons'… and conveniently ignore the fact that assaulting a 'fleeing felon' is also an offence in plenty of jurisdictions in teh US. Next thing we will have all the 'experts' along to tell us (a) we have no guns, and (b) it's illegal to use a weapon on an intruder, and (c), shoooting an intruder means you will automatically go to jail. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 4:56:00 AM EDT
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I suppose I will be vacationing in France next year rather than England.
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:05:28 AM EDT
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IF this had happened in the US, at least in Mississippi, he most certainly would NOT have been arrested. If an autopsy revealed that something had happened, like he had been beaten unconcious before the fall, he would THEN get arrested. We don't typically arrest people on posibility when there might not have even been a crime. If I find a person in my house in the early AM I can do whatever I want. His family can't even sue me. It's called "Castle Doctrine." I hope (and bet) you are right about him not being formaly charged. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:07:35 AM EDT
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You should of just let the guy take what he wanted an no one would of been hurt.
Things you can do to protect the said robber. 1: Pretend to sleep while he is in your room. 2: Offer tea to the man, It may make him think twice. 3: Offer him the stuff that has no meaning to you, Help him carry it to his car. 4: Tell him if he comes back later you will not be around and would make it safer for him to gather things. 5: Keep a burlap bag filled with expensive things so they can just grab it and leave quickly as to not wake you up. Maybe leave it on the front porch if you have one or have the neighbourhood just pile the stuff outside on the street. 6: Make a safe room with nothing in it and sleep there till morning. Keep a peep hole in the door to see if any one is still there. If they are, ask them how long they will be, Try to wake up early to do this to not be late for work, do not frighten the guy to early. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:09:23 AM EDT
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My police report would be very favorable to the homeowner.
Why was the homeowner arrested? Even in messed up NYC I gotta' believe even the most jack booted of Mayor Bloomberg's blue polyester minions would have a hard time arresting the homeowner. The burglar is the perp! The homeowner is the victim! Not the other way around.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:12:55 AM EDT
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Dusty I would raise you 15 on that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:14:04 AM EDT
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there are quite a few states that would allow you to kill an intruder in your house. you are going to head to the station afterwards to answer a few questions, but you won't be "arrested", there won't be any bail involved, hell you can't even be held liable in a civil lawsuit anymore in many states. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:14:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:17:20 AM EDT
[#14]
Once again socialism at its best.
It is only a matter of time when we have it happen here. max |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:18:26 AM EDT
[#15]
That is not funny.....  |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:20:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:35:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:37:34 AM EDT
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http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/fulltext/sb396.htm Pertinent paragraph: "16-3-23.1. A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, relating to the use of force in defense of self or others, Code Section 16-3-23, relating to the use of force in defense of a habitation, or Code Section 16-3-24, relating to the use of force in defense of property other than a habitation, has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use force as provided in said Code sections, including deadly force." also: 16-3-24.2. A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, 16-3-23, 16-3-23.1, or 16-3-24 shall be immune from criminal prosecution therefor unless in the use of deadly force, such person utilizes a weapon the carrying or possession of which is unlawful by such person under Part 2 or 3 of Article 4 of Chapter 11 of this title." I think I am allowed to throw an intruder out a 4th story window by my reading of this law. However, the loaded handgun I am allowed to keep by my bed will work faster. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:49:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Sounds like a joke article. Why do the Brits put up with that nonsense?
Why. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:55:06 AM EDT
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If you go bring a couple a bricks of 22lr and randomly drop handfuls in odd places. That will keep the hazmat teams and investigators tied up for months. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:02:02 AM EDT
[#21]
Summed up my thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:02:27 AM EDT
[#22]
Light the fires up!!! Too many stupid people. Let's also remove a lot of consumer safety warnings and we won't have to pay for as many stupid people to live to a ripe old age. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:04:33 AM EDT
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That is literally one of the top 10 most stupid things I have ever heard. UK should be ashamed of themselves.
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:09:53 AM EDT
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They are only trying to be fair, burglers have rights too
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:12:25 AM EDT
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I'd laywer up before you tried it… To amend Article 2 of Chapter 3 of Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to justification and excuse as a defense to certain crimes, so as to provide that a person who is attacked has no duty to retreat; to provide that such person has a right to meet force with force, including deadly force; It states 'a person who is attacked' and 'such person has a right to meet force with force'… In this case the homeowner surprised an unarmed perp and there is a prima fascea case that he then grabbed the perp and propelled him out of a window… Wouldn't that no longer be 'standing your ground' but innitiating a revenge assault? |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:15:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:23:20 AM EDT
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In several states there is a presumption that an intruder in your home is a deadly threat. There is no need to prove "he was coming right at me" in order to justify force, including lethal force, to end that threat. That means I don't have to warn him and give him the opportunity to flee. I don't have to show he was armed and I knew it. I don't have to explain why I pushed him out the window or hit him over the head with a bat while he was looking in a closet. So long as he was there in my home unlawfully he's shit out of luck. This is certainly as it should be. How is it 'revenge' to force an intruder of unknown intent from your home? |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:25:05 AM EDT
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It's called sarcasm.  ETA... and I should have read more of the thread before I replied. Looks like a bunch of people already said it! 
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Posted: 8/9/2007 7:07:24 AM EDT
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"A person who is justified in threatening or using force against another under the provisions of Code Section 16-3-21, relating to the use of force in defense of self or others, Code Section 16-3-23, relating to the use of force in defense of a habitation" 16-3-23 "A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other´s unlawful entry into or attack upon a habitation; however, such person is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if: (1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent and tumultuous manner and he or she reasonably believes that the entry is attempted or made for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the assault or offer of personal violence; (2) That force is used against another person who is not a member of the family or household and who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using such force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred; or (3) The person using such force reasonably believes that the entry is made or attempted for the purpose of committing a felony therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the commission of the felony. " I'll be in defense of my habitation. Sure, it also depends on your local police department. In Atlanta metro, they may take you downtown after shooting you and planting drug evidence. In Oconee county, the local police may buy you a beer. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 11:01:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Much the same as over here… as my local PoPo told me, if I ever have to shoot a burglar make sure he's facing me when I zap him… keeps the paperwork simple.
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Posted: 8/9/2007 11:06:37 AM EDT
[#31]
Was the burglar on his way off the balcony (IOW, "fleeing") when he was "pushed"? If no, then the burglar wasn't "fleeing", he was still in the act of committing a felony. No rights for burglars - I hope the homeowner walks free and the burglar goes to prison. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 11:15:21 AM EDT
[#32]
I hate to say it, but:
France 2 England 0 |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 11:27:06 AM EDT
[#33]
It's going to be like that here in the U.S. soon too, we have a system to deal with crime, people cannot take anything in to their own hands its not fair to the criminal. Yeah, ok their boss.......??????
You would thank me for throwing you out the window, I would be going easy on your ass if I did. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 12:08:53 PM EDT
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Homeowner arrested after the burglar he confronted falls 30ft
It is now official. "Nigel", the generic Brit, is no longer permitted to have a dick. It's truly said that what was once a world power is now a pathetic joke. That being said, it's our turn next folks unless you make the politicians fear you and your wrath. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 12:32:54 PM EDT
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Hell, in Texas you can shoot a 12 year old boy in your driveway at night, if he's stealing your rims or stereo. As for pushing intruders out of YOUR OWN DAMN HOUSE: Texas, Oklahoma, Florida for sure - must be others. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:21:08 PM EDT
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I'll be the first to admit that we have our crime problems, but we are still a long way from having events like This as regular occurences
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:26:48 PM EDT
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C'mon Streetfighter! You know the plot here! No guns in Britain = Crime out of control… …even if only 57 people were killed by firearms last year and 90% of those were drug related gangland killings.
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:32:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Wow what a bunch of bullshit. Sadly America is following in their footsteps.
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:36:10 PM EDT
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Churchill lost the 1945 election. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:43:41 PM EDT
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Believe me in Texas if you threw an intruder out of the third floor window of your house at night, all that would happen is the police would come take a statement, and take away the body, and give you a pat on the back. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:44:33 PM EDT
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Its not socialism. That does have some redeeming features. Its liberalism in it purest form that is the problem. Other than that - ditto. England today is a foreign country to me when I go back to visit now. Unfortunately, I see the same slippery slope opening up here. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:54:44 PM EDT
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We've played this little game so many times. The adjusted rates are nearly identical. The UK houses about 60 million people. We house more than 1/2 of that in the state of California. Comparing the numbers of firearms related deaths is just silly. The per capita violent crime rates are not very far apart. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 2:02:10 PM EDT
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Socialism was the mortal disease for Britain, it has been a long slow, painful, and agonizing death since this cancer took hold. Socialism has: 1. All but destroyed the middle class in the UK. 2. Turned a once proud nation into beggary dependent on government handouts. 3. Eroded completely British values, customs, and culture. 4. Gutted the military. 5. Made Britain a haven for criminals and illegal immigrants. 6. Destroyed British pride. 7. The rule of law is non-existent. 8. Done its damn best remove Christian morals and teaching from the fabric of British society. 9. Robbed the British people of all they once held so dear, and forced so many evils upon them. 10. Forced Britons to be second class citizens in their OWN nation. Did I miss anything? Basically if I wanted to think of the worst things I could do to destroy a country, it would be all the evils entailed in Socialism. 
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Posted: 8/9/2007 2:05:14 PM EDT
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True, in Scotland one of the most popular weapons for homicide is not a gun, but yes you guessed it, the trusty old Macgregor 7 iron. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 2:41:36 PM EDT
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A "revenge attack" might be if you throw your TV out the window, down onto his motionless body 30ft below.
That might be a bit excessive. Struggling with a man, who then ends up falling out the window? Not excessive. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 2:45:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2007 2:49:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Hell yes he was forced. And rightly so! The only people that should be arrested are the idiots that arrested the guy for defending himself/home. |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:52:43 PM EDT
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I just wanted to say a quick word: some of you have a misunderstanding of liberalism. Remember that this country is founded on liberal ideals. Liberalism is individualism. True liberalism has the upmost respect for private property. IMHO, private property, and one's ability to defend his own property, is the backbone of liberalism.
People being charged for such crimes as throwing a intruder out of the window is NOT liberalism; it is a demonstration of statism and socialism. The same holds true for most elected Democrats: they are not truly liberal, they are socialist. |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 4:11:37 AM EDT
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Amen. I mean, unless the intruder was an anemic 130 pound weakling and the homeowner was a steroid gobbling MMA fighter who picked the skinny guy up and turned him into the world's largest lawn dart, the conclusion that the homeowner did something worthy of criminal prosecution seems most excessive. |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 7:54:37 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that none of our Brit Brethren haven't weighed in on this subject.
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