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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:26:56 PM EDT
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There's been one sitting in the AR rack of my local store for at least a year. Another 6 months of cheap ARs on the market and I'm low balling an offer on it  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. There's been one sitting in the AR rack of my local store for at least a year. Another 6 months of cheap ARs on the market and I'm low balling an offer on it Sure, if you want an outdated antique. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:27:07 PM EDT
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He and Costa should get back together. They have a dynamic relationship. People change after 7 years. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:27:41 PM EDT
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i was watching these a couple months ago... funny to see costa with a goatee and he has so much shit attached to his carbine... a lot of the fundamentals are still the same so i guess it's good for that.. i think dynamic handgun holds up a lot better..
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:34:29 PM EDT
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i was watching these a couple months ago... funny to see costa with a goatee and he has so much shit attached to his carbine... a lot of the fundamentals are still the same so i guess it's good for that.. i think dynamic handgun holds up a lot better.. At a $100 bucks, that set is a steal. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:36:46 PM EDT
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Sure, if you want an outdated antique. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. There's been one sitting in the AR rack of my local store for at least a year. Another 6 months of cheap ARs on the market and I'm low balling an offer on it Sure, if you want an outdated antique. It'd go on the rack next to my 03A3 and Krag as historic American milsurps |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:38:13 PM EDT
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. There's been one sitting in the AR rack of my local store for at least a year. Another 6 months of cheap ARs on the market and I'm low balling an offer on it Sure, if you want an outdated antique. It'd go on the rack next to my 03A3 and Krag as historic American milsurps I don't think they're C&R eligible yet, but it won't be long.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:41:32 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete!
Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:47:47 PM EDT
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DVDs with an expiration date. I like it.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:50:53 PM EDT
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DVDs with an expiration date. I like it. If PMAGs can expire, DVDs certainly can. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:53:15 PM EDT
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All a sales gimmick.
Hey I no longer work with Magpul so dont buy those videos... But hey, I have a new series of DVDs you can buy... Pft.. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:56:27 PM EDT
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I actually have that...on VHS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I only use top of the line training materials. http://www.glockstore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/g/pgroup_8110_image.jpg I actually have that...on VHS. How is it? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:57:22 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete! Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 3:59:33 PM EDT
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How about we just use his videos as a foundation and stick to
basics... Physical fitness and muscle memory. I like their videos BTW. Good stuff for your kitbag, ultimately you Have to decide what works for you and your situation. Free |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:06:59 PM EDT
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:14:16 PM EDT
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I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill Chris has only one and it is serial #1 ... so I'm betting it spends most of it's life out of bright sunlight. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:14:47 PM EDT
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How is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I only use top of the line training materials. http://www.glockstore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/g/pgroup_8110_image.jpg I actually have that...on VHS. How is it? IIRC (It's been near 20yrs), it was decent for its day. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:22:07 PM EDT
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lol at people who need a dvd to tell them how to use the five controls on their rifle.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:31:01 PM EDT
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lol at people who need a dvd to tell them how to use the five controls on their rifle. I don't think you get it. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryTap, rack, bang. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:40:09 PM EDT
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Here was his response on that FB post:
Mostly because I created, produced and directed these. So I know the material very well. There is a lot that I would take back and add which we do now in our programs. The Panteao videos are a massive improvement as it pertains to material and even those are becoming older and need to be updated. So no it wont get you killed, but there is better material since then. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:41:38 PM EDT
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Firearms have been around since the what, 1400's ? But alot has changed since then, especially the last 7 years. Yeeaah...right......ummm...
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:43:34 PM EDT
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If he didn't claim that they were old, he wouldn't be justified in releasing new dvds. If he didn't claim that training has changed so quickly in 7 years then he wouldn't be able to justify teaching new classes.
That being said - I think he (travis) has been introduced to more speed/competition shooters and therefore a lot of the body mechanics and fundamentals and effort has gone into this box. He's a fast shooter for sure, but anyone with a million dollar + revenue a year built around shooting/training/selling tactical goodies has no excuse not to be. Hell, if I had a blank check for ammo and a range nearby I'd be a hell of a shooter too.... |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:44:36 PM EDT
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I got a new phrase out of the comments... "bro science".
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:45:37 PM EDT
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They broke up!!??
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He and Costa should get back together. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:46:54 PM EDT
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Tap, rack, bang. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Tap, rack, bang. Hit ? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:52:02 PM EDT
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Chris has only one and it is serial #1 ... so I'm betting it spends most of it's life out of bright sunlight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill Chris has only one and it is serial #1 ... so I'm betting it spends most of it's life out of bright sunlight. Did you stop making them or something? I can't really imagine not buying and using one or two of my signature rifles if someone were making them. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:54:50 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete! Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." 
You don't operate, do you son? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:34:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think you get it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol at people who need a dvd to tell them how to use the five controls on their rifle. I don't think you get it. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:36:47 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete! Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." are they the pants from Heat? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:37:41 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete! Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:37:52 PM EDT
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Damn I'm a sucker for box sets.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:39:09 PM EDT
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DO NOT BUY THESE VIDEOS! They are outdated and obsolete! Watch these videos and you will end up buying the wrong pants, and everyone at the range will laugh at you for being so "low speed." are they the pants from Heat? wwz |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:41:38 PM EDT
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I did not realize they were still selling those videos new. Subtle NOS liquidation ad is not so subtle.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:57:26 PM EDT
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Did you stop making them or something? I can't really imagine not buying and using one or two of my signature rifles if someone were making them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill Chris has only one and it is serial #1 ... so I'm betting it spends most of it's life out of bright sunlight. Did you stop making them or something? I can't really imagine not buying and using one or two of my signature rifles if someone were making them. The agreement is for a total of just 500 rifles. So far, there have been 3 runs of 125 each made. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:14:05 PM EDT
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I learned how to be a Tier 1 operator by watching Tabpul Dynamic's "Art of the Dynamic Cola Warrior".
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:15:13 PM EDT
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I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard he doesn't even use that JACK carbine he made that was supposed to be the shiznit. I doubt he does use it. unless maybe a camera is around, its nothing special anyway you got me thinking, and I went on Costa's FB page and looked at his picture in the last few years worth, there is not even a picture of him using his Costa branded Larue gun damn near every picture he has a KAC or something I have always thought the instructors putting their names on guns was a shill. or just fucking stupid. BCM really has a special place for getting big names to shill He moved his training out to Wyoming, so now he's no longer dressing like an Operating Operator, he's running around in Wranglers and Justins dynamically pimping the kinesthetic Operator LVOA from Salient, with Operational backup from his Operational athlete K9s. Currently conducting Operations to secure more Operator products to shill for overpriced, flavor of the day, Operationally essential kit. Can't be an Operator without your $3,000 SAI Glock, $4,000 Warsport carbine and $500 Arcteryx Operator pants. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:26:32 PM EDT
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<snip> He moved his training out to Wyoming, so now he's no longer dressing like an Operating Operator, he's running around in Wranglers and Justins dynamically pimping the kinesthetic Operator LVOA from Salient, with Operational backup from his Operational athlete K9s. Currently conducting Operations to secure more Operator products to shill for overpriced, flavor of the day, Operationally essential kit. Can't be an Operator without your $3,000 SAI Glock, $4,000 Warsport carbine and $500 Arcteryx Operator pants. You could run your own tactical / dynamic writing class. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:38:53 PM EDT
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Tap, rack, bang. Hit ? You're damn right I would!!! |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:42:57 PM EDT
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These videos are too far behind the dynamic curve. 7 years ago these would offer the dynamic paradigm suitable for operations against the Iraqi insurgency and Taliban but threats change bro. If you're running this sort of ancient kit and techniques these days,might as well be packing a .38 in a basket weave flap holster and shooting from the dueling stance. It's your life bro,I'm just trying to save it. http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2011/06/32.jpg That gun is pure sex 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:43:26 PM EDT
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I don't care, personally. I don't watch the videos. It seems akin to watching porn and thinking you're going to be good in the sack. But I do find it funny that he's straight up saying "DO NOT BUY THESE". Sure, things change, but not that drastically, in 7 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In! Here is his comment on FB in reference to the Magpul videos: I've had a lot of people ask me about this: Be careful buying training DVDs that 7 yrs old. If you know how adaptive we are in our training programs then you get my point... If you don't then here: DO NOT BUY THESE. "yes this message is approved by Travis Haley." https://www.facebook.com/travis.haley.18/posts/10205126414590391 Oh, the drama.
I don't care, personally. I don't watch the videos. It seems akin to watching porn and thinking you're going to be good in the sack. But I do find it funny that he's straight up saying "DO NOT BUY THESE". Sure, things change, but not that drastically, in 7 years. No shit. Not to mention BUT FOR Magpul and their still pretty damn good videos , I wouldn't know who he is, nor would he be as famous as he is (not as quickly anyway). Marketing fail, IMHO. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:47:15 PM EDT
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The Carbine/handgun are the really old ones. A lot of the gunstuff/equipment they were recomending is old and newer better stuff is out there. So I think thatss what he is saying. Think AFGs, slings, rails, optics. How many times can you reinvent the wheel? Gun, ammo, perhaps a light and sling if necessary. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote Historywho's that? can I buy her videos? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:54:20 PM EDT
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No shit. Not to mention BUT FOR Magpul and their still pretty damn good videos , I wouldn't know who he is, nor would he be as famous as he is (not as quickly anyway). Marketing fail, IMHO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In! Here is his comment on FB in reference to the Magpul videos: I've had a lot of people ask me about this: Be careful buying training DVDs that 7 yrs old. If you know how adaptive we are in our training programs then you get my point... If you don't then here: DO NOT BUY THESE. "yes this message is approved by Travis Haley." https://www.facebook.com/travis.haley.18/posts/10205126414590391 Oh, the drama.
I don't care, personally. I don't watch the videos. It seems akin to watching porn and thinking you're going to be good in the sack. But I do find it funny that he's straight up saying "DO NOT BUY THESE". Sure, things change, but not that drastically, in 7 years. No shit. Not to mention BUT FOR Magpul and their still pretty damn good videos , I wouldn't know who he is, nor would he be as famous as he is (not as quickly anyway). Marketing fail, IMHO. Yep. He could of said watch those for the basics and check out my Panteo stuff for the advanced stuff or something like that. Or, he could of said nothing at all. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:56:46 PM EDT
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How many times can you reinvent the wheel? Gun, ammo, perhaps a light and sling if necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Carbine/handgun are the really old ones. A lot of the gunstuff/equipment they were recomending is old and newer better stuff is out there. So I think thatss what he is saying. Think AFGs, slings, rails, optics. How many times can you reinvent the wheel? Gun, ammo, perhaps a light and sling if necessary. When your a firearms instructor you need to have bright and shiny new shit to sell people. People won't want to be taught the same thing over and over again so ya have to create cool new tactical ways of shooting. Granted I'm sure you find little things to tweak but they have done some serious 180s. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:00:10 PM EDT
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I don't care, personally. I don't watch the videos. It seems akin to watching porn and thinking you're going to be good in the sack. But I do find it funny that he's straight up saying "DO NOT BUY THESE". Sure, things change, but not that drastically, in 7 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In! Here is his comment on FB in reference to the Magpul videos: I've had a lot of people ask me about this: Be careful buying training DVDs that 7 yrs old. If you know how adaptive we are in our training programs then you get my point... If you don't then here: DO NOT BUY THESE. "yes this message is approved by Travis Haley." https://www.facebook.com/travis.haley.18/posts/10205126414590391 Oh, the drama.
I don't care, personally. I don't watch the videos. It seems akin to watching porn and thinking you're going to be good in the sack. But I do find it funny that he's straight up saying "DO NOT BUY THESE". Sure, things change, but not that drastically, in 7 years. Sure they do. Now days we use phased plasma rifles in the 40 Watt range. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:01:07 PM EDT
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How about we just use his videos as a foundation and stick tobasics... Physical fitness and muscle memory. I like their videos BTW. Good stuff for your kitbag, ultimately you Have to decide what works for you and your situation. Free This post is sorely lacking in both GD-righteous indignation, critical levels of derp and downright dumbaddsdry. Please try harder next time to avoid so much common sense. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:02:08 PM EDT
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Currently seeking a dynamic partnership with Corey Jackson for my upcoming class, "The art of the wannabe warrior".
Curriculum includes the following... 1. How to look like an Operator. Looking cool is first and foremost in the dynamic Operator world, as everyone knows. It's what sets true Operators apart from those 11B wannabes. My class will teach you the skills needed to spend tens of thousands on gear you probably don't know how to use, but damned if you won't look badass. 2. Operator hairstyles. Beards. You can't Operate without one. We'll show you the secrets you need to know in order to survive and get off the X. You'll learn the proper way to seal your doomsday prep gas mask with a full warrior beard. We've spared no expense, and brought James Yeager to you for his knowledge of hairstyle products and vehicle Operations. 3. How to defend your Operator style from LSHD internet forum critics. Once we've taught you how to be an Operator, it's up to you to spread the word far and wide about how you're a true subject matter expert. So what if you've never cleared a room with enemy combatants inside, you've taken a course from someone wearing all the latest Operator gear. That practically makes you certified to be an instructor! That's why we have Corey Jackson to teach you his ways. The master of padding a training resume, claiming military service, and looking like a true tier one operator, Jackson will show you how to degrade anyone that dares suggest you might not even Operate, then backpedal and disappear when actual Operators call you out. Now taking reservations for upcoming classes. $2,000 for a two day course of instruction. To be scheduled as soon as Jacksons parents let us use the backyard range again. 100% deposit required for reservations. No refunds. We assume no liability for hurt feelings on AR15.com. Subject to cancellation depending from complications related to microvalve prolapshnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggh |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:02:53 PM EDT
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lol at people who need a dvd to tell them how to use the five controls on their rifle. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:06:02 PM EDT
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7 years ago they weren't even recommending carrying a trunk monkey to hold your muzzle for you, stuff can get you killed man.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:06:35 PM EDT
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Here was his response on that FB post: Mostly because I created, produced and directed these. So I know the material very well. There is a lot that I would take back and add which we do now in our programs. The Panteao videos are a massive improvement as it pertains to material and even those are becoming older and need to be updated. So no it wont get you killed, but there is better material since then. I wonder how many of our GD pistoleros will blast right by his updated comments. |
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