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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:04:38 AM EDT
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He should have been shot as soon as they found him, And by that I mean shot dead. Fuckin piece of shit.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:05:52 AM EDT
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Because the cops were good cops and they followed the rules. I'm sure they all wanted to kill him, but he has a right to a trial just like anyone else. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:06:04 AM EDT
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Because he has rights Just because everyone knows he killed three people and that he is a liar and that he has a long history of violence doesn't mean he should not be treated with respect! Oh no...this man must be given his day in court (again) until the state proves he is actually guilty. In the mean time...the victims of this crime has no rights what so ever. They are just dead. SGatr15 |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:06:34 AM EDT
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Fellas, what we have is a "Legal system," not a "Justice system."
Big difference. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:06:59 AM EDT
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Sad isn't it? When are own country stops enforcing it's own laws. Sgatr15 |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:14:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Which lawyers should be killed? The ones who defend ppl accused of a crime, or just plain all of the them? BTW, if the lawyer moved the court to have him appear "unrestrained" and the judge, knowing this guy's propensities (wasn't he caught with two shanks on Thursday?!) granted the motion, then the judge made a mistake in granting the motion. And what about the Sherrif who knew of this guy's propensities, does he get any blame for not doing his fucking job in that courtroom (and out of it- remember, his escape from custody NOT happen in the courtroom)? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:14:56 AM EDT
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Darn. I was hoping he'd do himself in and save us court expenses.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:16:11 AM EDT
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My hat off to SGTAR15. This type of situation goes right back to allowing females to have positions they have NO damn business occupying. Police, military, etc. have been compromised just because of political correctness. The best man will ALWAYS be better than the best woman for jobs such as this. It would be interesting to find out if the murdered people were proponents of political correctness. Prayers to the families.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:24:55 AM EDT
[#9]
Yep. I had a Judge tell me we have Courts of Law not Courts of Justice... 
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:25:25 AM EDT
[#10]
Very. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:29:19 AM EDT
[#11]
Well said and sadly true. This scumbag should have been worm food long ago for other shit he has done. Im still so sick of the PC assholes already trying to deflate the issue of a woman gaurding a animal like this. When will comon sense come back in fashon. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:33:22 AM EDT
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Bullshit! The only rason that piece of shit is alive is because of witnesses. He had every opportunity to go to trial yesterday, he chose not to. He needed to die. The department that picked him up has had many "good shoots" and this would have been another one under the right circumstance. 
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:38:49 AM EDT
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I hope that the woman who was held by him that made the call ends up with the $65k that was offered.
Bets on if this guy get's a High Profile type attorney for the area? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:42:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Waiting for the next liberal bumper sticker
"FREE NICHOLS"... |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:44:18 AM EDT
[#15]
Ah, so you're saying GA cops are murderers? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:48:56 AM EDT
[#16]
All sarcasm aside, what exactly are you advocating here? Are you upset that posters are treating him as if he is guilty before his trial has taken place? DO you think it's wrong to believe an accused rapist should have been restrained? What exactly is your point of contention? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:54:19 AM EDT
[#17]
I hope his dog is OK, and those bastard JBTs remembered that he's innocent until proven guilty.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 9:57:46 AM EDT
[#18]
Sarcastic or idiotic? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:00:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Hi, my names Lumpy. Nice to meet you
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:00:19 AM EDT
[#20]
No shit. Innocent till proven guilty is a courtroom concept. The thinking man outside of the system is not under the same restraints. Only idiots, lawyers or newsmen will say "allegedly" about this piece of shit. Guilty as charged. Only the formalities remain. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:02:44 AM EDT
[#21]
Nope, they just don't take kindly to armed and dangerous people. This asshole would qualify.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:06:43 AM EDT
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Lumpy could be described as sarcastic, or acerbic, or caustic, or irascible, or mordent, or sardonic, or trenchant... but he can't be described as idiotic. The boys opinionated as hell, but he can always support his opinions. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:09:38 AM EDT
[#23]
I agrre so I'll go with sarcasm. Even the most rabid of morons here would have a hard time yelling "Jaybeetee" regarding any aspect of this situation. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:11:43 AM EDT
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I work across the street from the FBI building off Clairemont avenue, the building where they first took him. We watched them drive by on their way to the booking.......glad they got him. I live up the highway from where he was captured.......just goes to show you that carrying a gun is a smart thing to do in this crazy world.
Ric |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:17:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Its times like this I'm glad I'm not an LEO. I'm afraid JBT would be a label a little short of the mark if I was on this arrest team.
 If he blinked an eye, it would have been attempted escape! Flame away! |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:26:27 AM EDT
[#26]
( all based on politicly correctness ) Fixed it for ya. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:28:56 AM EDT
[#27]
Not the one that defends him in court, but the onces that defend him AFTER he is found guilty. And any lawyer that worked to put women in dangerous jobs like these. In other words, any lawyer that belongs to the ACLU should be punished severe (not necessarily shot since that would be against the law). SGatr15 |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:32:29 AM EDT
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I think this may be one of the major issues between Joe Citizen and Police. Joe Citizen (like me) believes the laws do not get enforced fairly on hardened criminals, yet are excessive for smaller crimes (ie DUI and they take your car). In the mean time the cops are how we see as representatives of the law and the cops themselves no the system is not fair. Yet they are still the one's forced to enforce it. I swear I am living in a world that no-longer makes sense to me. Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:42:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Nice deflection. BTW: Judges are lawyers too, and this one paid the ultimate price for his decision. Of course, his decision might have been motivated by a desire not to be overturned on the appeal that the scumbag's lawyer would have filed for allowing him to be seen in court in handcuffs. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:45:15 AM EDT
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Can't disagree with that. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 10:53:19 AM EDT
[#31]
I agree. Look for an album featuring him, 50 Cent, and The Game..........................Yes, our society is f#cked up enough to allow this. I'm sure he can negotiate a rap album contract from prison. Expect them to prohibit LEO's from carrying any firearms in or near courts......Thats liberal logic. And feel bad for the Perp........he probably wasn't breast fed or some bullsh#t as a child........(sarcasm) |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:12:46 AM EDT
[#32]
Think the're going to keep him in leg irons and cuffs now?
 I know it might prejudice the jury somewhat, but it might be prudent.  Maybe they could even have 2 Male guards available to escort him.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:14:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Pollitical correctness kills again.
This terrible sequence of events occured because a female deputy could not keep control of her pistol and was over powered by the thug. Sweet young things simply cannot perform every job a man can. Keeping control of crimminals with nothing left to lose is one job they cannot do. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:15:20 AM EDT
[#34]
She wasn't young. 52 I think they said. 
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:24:24 AM EDT
[#35]
Ouch! The truth hurts. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:30:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Deflection says what? If that is what I was doing, you just continued my "deflection". Of course it wasn't deflection, I was addressing a subject brought up by someone else. Read much? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:32:38 AM EDT
[#37]
i really think a person should lose their right to any type of trial when they shoot up a courtroom and kill a judge. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:35:57 AM EDT
[#38]
Gotcha, thanx for replying. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 11:57:04 AM EDT
[#39]
TJ, WE don't agree on a LOT, but we agree on THIS. +1! |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:00:53 PM EDT
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And thank you for a reasonable question asked of me. It stopped and made me think. Sgatr15 |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:02:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:59:21 PM EDT
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Georgia, huh? So THAT's where Chief Moose ended up. I knew he'd be involved in another high-profile case sometime...
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Posted: 3/12/2005 1:08:58 PM EDT
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She (the deputy, still alive) is 51, 5'5", and 130# (actualy pretty good proportioned) He is 33, 6'1", 210# (better proportioned). That was a total breakdown in security to have her escort him uncuffed w/o back-up. Look for the victims families to have a class action civil/wrongful death suit towards the county. Guarenteed...
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Posted: 3/12/2005 1:09:14 PM EDT
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Only if the killing was while the agent was on duty or was a result of the agent’s position or on-duty activities. Strikes me as really strange that (as far as we know right now) the only person Nichols killed after escaping the Courthouse area was an armed Fed. Did Nichols know the agent was armed and wanted the handgun (IIRC the one he had was nearly empty)? Was the agent carrying his handgun visibly? Did the agent have any decal or such on his truck indicating he was a FLEO? Or maybe the agent tried to arrest Nichols and lost out on the encounter? Just strange! |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 1:13:20 PM EDT
[#45]
It looks like the murder of the ICE agent was random. Nichols approached him as he was off duty and working on the construction of his new home. Why he murdered him is anyones guess though I doubt that he was armed while doing construction work. More likely, his weapon and Creds. were in his truck which Nichols took from the scene.. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 1:44:24 PM EDT
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Women as a group are both less strong and less aggressive than men as a group, no argument.
IIRC, a few years ago there was a somewhat similar situation with a female US Marshal who had her firearm taken by a prisoner just convicted of murder. The prisoner used the firearm to kill another marshal and a local LEO. And I certainly agree that asking a lone female deputy to escort this guy was irresponsible, esp. given his track record. However, the actual issue is more of her being alone, rather than of her sex. Having a lone male deputy escorting this guy would probably have reduced the likelihood of what happened, but there’s certainly no guarantee that it would have prevented the same occurrence. Lots of LEO’s have been killed with their own firearms – and many of them were men.
Thanks for the update. Just one of those coincidences, I guess. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 2:09:07 PM EDT
[#47]
I think he killed the ICE agent for the truck.
Its a goverment vehicle. Who would think of stopping it? Isn't there a federal law on Car Jacking? |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 3:18:13 PM EDT
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Advocating death as a penalty for defending accused criminals in court is insanity. Advocating death as a penalty for promoting a client's interest in legal proceedings is insanity. My point of contention is that any number of asswipes have posted in this thread that this guy's lawyer should be held responsible for his crimes because the lawyer asked that his client not appear before the jury in chains. My point is this: If Brian what's-his-name doesn't get a defense, neither do you. Secondarily, the guy's opportunity didn't arise because he was unshackled before the jury; he wasn't even in the building where the trial was to be held when he started his spree. Five-O, re-read: there's no reference in my post to the presumption of innocence. The guy is clearly guilty. He deserves to die, after a jury says so. Are you saying he doesn't get a trial? Are you saying that any lawyer who represents him should be killed? I sincerely hope that each of you who has expressed these unworthy and foolhardy sentiments finds himself or a loved one wrongly accused of a vicious and unforgiveable crime. The reason that the guys who wrote the 2d amendment also wrote the 6th is that every man accused of a crime gets a vigorous defense with a lawyer who serves only his interests, or nobody does. They wrote the 6th amendment because they remembered the fear that John Hancock or Sam Adams might be tried and sentenced without counsel and without a jury in some special prerogative court ginned up by Parliament to ensure that they hanged. Those of you who have condemned his lawyer for representing him, who have condemned criminal defense attorneys in general for vigorously defending their clients, are un-American. You may not deserve to roast in hell, but you don't deserve to meet George Washington in Heaven, either. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 6:53:30 PM EDT
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Believe me, we ENFORCE the big laws much more entusiastically than the little ones... What cop does not want a few murderers, robbers, trafficers, etc under their belt? I know I am very proud of my "big" arrests. The disporportionate adjudication and punishment regarding those crimes does not rest on the shoulders of the police. |
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Posted: 3/12/2005 7:05:05 PM EDT
[#50]
That's what I meant Five-0. The cops make the arrest, but the courts don't always provide equal justice.
SGatr15 |
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