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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:00:39 PM EDT

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I seem to recall reading that several firms have offered to buy the design from VLTOR and the just refuse to let it go.

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Everybody knows the "new" Bren Ten.

It's been 10 years or so.

I seem to recall reading that several firms have offered to buy the design from VLTOR and the just refuse to let it go.

It's being worked on. Haven't bought the rights to the pistol yet as the auto mag is front and center. Maybe less than 3 mos out. Maybe a .22 conversion for AM as well.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:10:58 PM EDT

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The MSAR pistol caliber bullpup carbines that were going to take Glock mags.

ETA Has it really been 10 years for the VLTOR Bren Ten debacle?

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:11:57 PM EDT

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I was gonna bring that one up. The most famous one of all - the fucking shrike.

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What's the belt fed ar upper? Shrike or something?

I was gonna bring that one up. The most famous one of all - the fucking shrike.

A couple of years ago I was with a friend (who was getting a barrel made) at a local guys private workshop. This place was an Aladdin's cave of guns and gun parts, crazy stuff stashed everywhere.

Got permission to rummage around and found an original, dust covered Shrike in a drawer.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:13:27 PM EDT

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POF PSG 9mm.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:15:46 PM EDT

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I was so fucking pissed about that fucking rifle! I plotted for months on getting that fucking thing and the conversion kits and different barrel lengths only to have it sold out and then buried for some fucking painfully ignorant fucking reason. Fucking motherfuckers.

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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:16:17 PM EDT

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HK 293 or 243 basically a semi auto G36.

Yes. I hate you too HK

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There is an HK 243 for sale here in NZ at gun city, an absolute bargain at $8500

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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:18:12 PM EDT

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This is the one. Remember when the CEO posted that video that they would be out in Q3 2016? Still waiting...

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:20:03 PM EDT

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Everybody knows the "new" Bren Ten.

It's been 10 years or so.

I'm looking for more recent nominations.

Like, past 2 years or so.

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HMG™ Sturmgewehr

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Yup. Supposed to come out early this summer. Only like one prototype vid of it shooting like twice,lol. No updates, nothing.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:34:10 PM EDT

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What happened to the improved AR180 that was going to be reintroduced?

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:35:10 PM EDT

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They're being sold under a different label, now.

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Shrike.

Wow, I forgot about that ordeal. A few were shipped. Any resolve after that?

They're being sold under a different label, now.

Same company, different name for the upper, the MCR.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:36:17 PM EDT

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Past two years?

Serbu SU-15
Radom MSBS
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SMG FG42
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That.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:37:48 PM EDT

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6.5 CBJ

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/07/08/the-amazing-6-5x25mm-cbj/

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:40:30 PM EDT

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6.5 CBJ

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I want so fucking bad. That or 22TCM, either with threaded barrels. Gots to be quiet, you know.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:41:45 PM EDT

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Still waiting on the LWRCI .45 PCC

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Out of everything that is the thing I want the most.

My first thoughts were the Bren Ten and the magpul FMG9 which would be awesome if sold as a semi auto sbr.

Now I will say I think it is worth giving HK props for actually bringing in the sp5k. It took like 3 years to get but we actually got it. Now if they would only bring in a sp94....

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:45:19 PM EDT

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MD Arms double stack Saiga 12 mags. Blue balls were had by many.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:47:05 PM EDT

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The MSAR pistol caliber bullpup carbines that were going to take Glock mags.

ETA Has it really been 10 years for the VLTOR Bren Ten debacle?

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Yes, yes it has.

I have a book, Bren Ten the Heir Apparent with an author inscription talking about the Fortis-Bren Ten project dated around 2006.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:50:04 PM EDT

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There's a company out there supposed to be making metal magazines for the VEPR 7.62x54R (right now only options are 5 round OEM and the out-of-spec SGM 10 rounders. Thats it, no other choices).

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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:53:45 PM EDT

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On a positive note concerning vaporware.

This is the first time in almost a decade that investments can be made without the likely possibility of everybody losing their ass due to regulations.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:54:26 PM EDT

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CZ Shadow 2.

Hype it in Feb, and in December they still aren't released.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:55:22 PM EDT

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Glock Carbine

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They finally brought out a single stack 9mm, so we're about 10 years away from finally getting the carbine.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:55:27 PM EDT

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Glock single stack 9MM.....oh wait, never mind.

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:56:33 PM EDT

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CZ Shadow 2.

Hype it in Feb, and in December they still aren't released.

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To be fair, they were released to everybody else (just not the US market).

Posted: 11/25/2016 11:59:39 PM EDT

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To be fair, they were released to everybody else (just not the US market).

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CZ Shadow 2.

Hype it in Feb, and in December they still aren't released.

To be fair, they were released to everybody else (just not the US market).

Doesn't help me if some dude in China can buy one.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:00:33 AM EDT

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+1

I had hopes of their Kalashnikov Alpha rifle, but got tired of waiting on the vaporware.

James

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:00:34 AM EDT

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The MSAR pistol caliber bullpup carbines that were going to take Glock mags.

ETA Has it really been 10 years for the VLTOR Bren Ten debacle?

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Speaking of Microtech disappointments...

Their Archangel 9mm looked pretty sweet, especially with the AUG style waffle mags

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:02:01 AM EDT

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So everyone that bought in lost their deposit? Any lawsuits come from that?

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Shrike.

Wow, I forgot about that ordeal. A few were shipped. Any resolve after that?

They're being sold under a different label, now.

So everyone that bought in lost their deposit? Any lawsuits come from that?

Last I heard everyone got their upper or got a refund. ARES had a dealer account on here a couple of years ago. Not sure what happened but from everything I've seen all of the depositors where made whole. And the uppers are being sold, a couple of dealers have them in stock. One sold on gunbroker last week for $2900. That was a good deal.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:03:06 AM EDT

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Everybody knows the "new" Bren Ten.

It's been 10 years or so.

I'm looking for more recent nominations.

Like, past 2 years or so.

My nomination?

HMG™ Sturmgewehr

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This

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:04:00 AM EDT

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Colt retro models, like the AR6720LECAR. None were ever produced.
Colt has announced even more retro models, like the XM177. Not holding my breath.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:09:26 AM EDT

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There was a 5.56 upper that was supposed to work with Mac-10/Mac-11 lowers, magazine fed.
I think the company took a good but of money for down payments, then folded, and none or very few ever shipped.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:12:14 AM EDT

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There was a 5.56 upper that was supposed to work with Mac-10/Mac-11 lowers, magazine fed.
I think the company took a good but of money for down payments, then folded, and none or very few ever shipped.

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Saber. Design got sold to a second company who then folded.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:16:03 AM EDT

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I was thinking along these lines, although more about the caliber conversions for the ACR.

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Magpul Masada

I was thinking along these lines, although more about the caliber conversions for the ACR.

The ACR is almost an orphaned platform. Bushmaster's done next to nothing to advance or popularize the rifle since 2009, which is what people figured would happen when Magpul sold them the production rights.

If they offered M-Lok handguards and new barrel lengths/profiles/calibers, and sold it for less than $1500 it would be closer to Magpul's vision for the Masada.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:29:38 AM EDT

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MSAR 9mm blowback AUG

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:30:21 AM EDT

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Past two years?

Serbu SU-15
Radom MSBS
VLTOR Bren Ten
SMG FG42
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Ummm...they have been in production for a couple of years now:

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Or were you referring to the Type 1 FG42?
According to SMG's website, the Type 1 sample went to ATF for approval at the end of April.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:30:50 AM EDT

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TNVC super cool two way pressure switch
SB Tactical cool braces: folding MP5k, SBPDW collapsing aR brace, etc
Fostech Echo trigger isn't there yet but not far.

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:33:56 AM EDT

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Colt Snakes

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:34:00 AM EDT

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SilencerCo Maxim 9

Posted: 11/26/2016 12:44:13 AM EDT

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Everybody knows the "new" Bren Ten.

It's been 10 years or so.

I'm looking for more recent nominations.

Like, past 2 years or so.

My nomination?

HMG™ Sturmgewehr

This

Does anyone know if those guys are still in business? I'm waiting for one of the CETME L kits that was supposed to ship 3 fucking months ago.

Posted: 11/26/2016 1:14:24 AM EDT

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http://trib.com/business/poor-management-unfilled-orders-lead-to-glenrock-business-s-failure/article_ed53d03c-7138-5c34-9806-a80817f29ff6.html

Posted: 11/26/2016 1:18:23 AM EDT

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Does anyone know if those guys are still in business? I'm waiting for one of the CETME L kits that was supposed to ship 3 fucking months ago.

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Everybody knows the "new" Bren Ten.

It's been 10 years or so.

I'm looking for more recent nominations.

Like, past 2 years or so.

My nomination?

HMG™ Sturmgewehr

This

Does anyone know if those guys are still in business? I'm waiting for one of the CETME L kits that was supposed to ship 3 fucking months ago.

yup they are. They were posting stuff working with the guy from Forgotton Weapons Nd his Cetme L kit. Those got delayed, as th stermgewher... appearently they are a small shop that got in way over their heads.

Posted: 11/26/2016 1:26:03 AM EDT

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Did that little Serbu SBR ever get released?

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Nope, Mark occasionally puts updates out, but its just delay after delay so far. He will eventually get them done I think.

Meanwhile, my serbu lower has been form 1'd, approved, engraved, assembled, and has been collecting dust for around a year now

It does look cool in the pictures

Posted: 11/26/2016 1:27:23 AM EDT

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So everyone that bought in lost their deposit? Any lawsuits come from that?

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Shrike.

Wow, I forgot about that ordeal. A few were shipped. Any resolve after that?

They're being sold under a different label, now.

So everyone that bought in lost their deposit? Any lawsuits come from that?

Interestingly enough, I know three people within 30 miles of me that have Shrike uppers. I've shot two of them (the upper).

Posted: 11/26/2016 1:52:02 AM EDT

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OP, you motherfucker! Just when I think I've gotten over my butthurt with the Bren Ten, you bring it right back!!!

Posted: 11/26/2016 2:13:12 AM EDT

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Nope, Mark occasionally puts updates out, but its just delay after delay so far. He will eventually get them done I think.

Meanwhile, my serbu lower has been form 1'd, approved, engraved, assembled, and has been collecting dust for around a year now

It does look cool in the pictures

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Did that little Serbu SBR ever get released?

Edit: SU15 is its name.

Nope, Mark occasionally puts updates out, but its just delay after delay so far. He will eventually get them done I think.

Meanwhile, my serbu lower has been form 1'd, approved, engraved, assembled, and has been collecting dust for around a year now

It does look cool in the pictures

Not much point in it since Sig beat them to market with the MCX.

Posted: 11/26/2016 2:17:14 AM EDT

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MD Arms double stack Saiga 12 mags. Blue balls were had by many.

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They also pimped a 60 round, quad stack AK74 mag pretty hard. Was supposed to be a copy of one the Russians made. They showed some prototype pics... then poof, just stopped talking about it.