Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Site Notices
Page / 2
Next Page Arrow Left
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:53:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


FIFY
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
That sucks. Fucking thieves. At least the old man got one of one of his guns back though and the remnants of one.


FIFY


Also, you owe the old man either the money you got for the parts, or a list of the people who got the parts.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:54:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Then why the thread you are saying you are to the point of tears?

Why wouldn't you want it anymore?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Dude, give the cops your number and ask them to give it to the old guy. Tell them you know his son and would buy it off of him.


I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.



Then why the thread you are saying you are to the point of tears?

Why wouldn't you want it anymore?


I bet the heroin addict that stolen it had tattoos, and he just can't stand the thought that an inky touched it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:56:08 PM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:02:39 PM EDT
[#4]
This happened to my brother who bought a 1911 in California in the 1990s, and another friend who bought a used single action Ruger in Maryland around the same time.

People assume if you buy a used gun from an FFL that he gun isn't stolen.  People assume too much.

Not all used guns are checked.  Even then, some are reported later.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:04:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Po-Po?

What are you a pothead or fucking what?
View Quote


I've met OP, and he's not a pothead.

I only recall this single post you made online, and my opinion of you is currently much, much lower.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:08:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Heroin addicted Granddaughter and her Felon boyfriend.

Seems they stole a bunch of nice jewelry and a couple guns (one was a P-38)  from her other Grandmother and her son (I know him too) called the gun owner to see if he was missing anything. That's when he discovered the broken lock on his wardrobe. The po-po said he said that he had not looked at the guns in years.....Bad health and all.



One of the pitfalls of pawn shop buying I guess....It happened to me a couple years ago....Same type of deal.

By law they have to have guns they buy from walk-ins checked to see if they were stolen. 10 days after that they can put them out for sale. That's in case they are reported stolen.

The trouble is if someone files a stolen property report afterwards and the gun was sold through the shop they "go after" the new owner to recover the stolen property.

That "possession is nine tenths of the law" thing does not quite work that way.  
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:

So who stole them?


Heroin addicted Granddaughter and her Felon boyfriend.

Seems they stole a bunch of nice jewelry and a couple guns (one was a P-38)  from her other Grandmother and her son (I know him too) called the gun owner to see if he was missing anything. That's when he discovered the broken lock on his wardrobe. The po-po said he said that he had not looked at the guns in years.....Bad health and all.

Quoted:
Stolen goods at a pawn shop!?!

Unpossible.


One of the pitfalls of pawn shop buying I guess....It happened to me a couple years ago....Same type of deal.

By law they have to have guns they buy from walk-ins checked to see if they were stolen. 10 days after that they can put them out for sale. That's in case they are reported stolen.

The trouble is if someone files a stolen property report afterwards and the gun was sold through the shop they "go after" the new owner to recover the stolen property.

That "possession is nine tenths of the law" thing does not quite work that way.  

It actually does, if you want to be a dick about it. I think the tort is conversion because the store and you both believed that you legally acquired the property even though it did not belong to the person who sold it to the store.

If you wanted to be a super-dick about it, you could have told them that you'll give it back when they go to court and get a writ of replevin. This takes time and costs money, so many people won't bother.

Since the store promised to make it right to you, you're probably best off not being a dick, or a super-dick.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:35:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Just buy guns people would be too embarrassed to report stolen.















Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:56:54 PM EDT
[#8]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

That "possession is nine tenths of the law" thing does not quite work that way is just some bullshit old saying.  

View Quote
FIFY.



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:57:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Same thing happened to me. Bought a beautiful Persian Mauser and 2 weeks later a sheriff calls me up while I'm at Annual Training and tells me I bought a stolen rifle.Sheriff told me the guys grandson stole guns and sold them. Fucking gun shop said they didn't have the cash to pay me back. The owner of the gun shop is dead now. Fuck it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:12:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

It actually does, if you want to be a dick about it. I think the tort is conversion because the store and you both believed that you legally acquired the property even though it did not belong to the person who sold it to the store.

If you wanted to be a super-dick about it, you could have told them that you'll give it back when they go to court and get a writ of replevin. This takes time and costs money, so many people won't bother.

Since the store promised to make it right to you, you're probably best off not being a dick, or a super-dick.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

So who stole them?


Heroin addicted Granddaughter and her Felon boyfriend.

Seems they stole a bunch of nice jewelry and a couple guns (one was a P-38)  from her other Grandmother and her son (I know him too) called the gun owner to see if he was missing anything. That's when he discovered the broken lock on his wardrobe. The po-po said he said that he had not looked at the guns in years.....Bad health and all.

Quoted:
Stolen goods at a pawn shop!?!

Unpossible.


One of the pitfalls of pawn shop buying I guess....It happened to me a couple years ago....Same type of deal.

By law they have to have guns they buy from walk-ins checked to see if they were stolen. 10 days after that they can put them out for sale. That's in case they are reported stolen.

The trouble is if someone files a stolen property report afterwards and the gun was sold through the shop they "go after" the new owner to recover the stolen property.

That "possession is nine tenths of the law" thing does not quite work that way.  

It actually does, if you want to be a dick about it. I think the tort is conversion because the store and you both believed that you legally acquired the property even though it did not belong to the person who sold it to the store.

If you wanted to be a super-dick about it, you could have told them that you'll give it back when they go to court and get a writ of replevin. This takes time and costs money, so many people won't bother.

Since the store promised to make it right to you, you're probably best off not being a dick, or a super-dick.


No, not being a dick...changes and processes came about in some areas because of abuse of the system, it may have been a bullshit report to begin with, a family member, a crack deal, victim wants his stuff back but doesn't want to sign a complaint/affidavit, or changed his mind about pursuing a charge against a family member, a friend, of just doesn't want to be bothered, disappears.. Not just guns, burglaries, but back in the day when 'crack rentals' ( cars loaned out for dope, but later reported stolen) was prevelent.

After a number of lawsuits I know some police wouldn't even think about seizing reported stolen property without an affidavit signed, maybe even some type of warrant or alias warrant issued, and sometimes a search warrant by the court to seize a particular item...and if an innocent third party requested so, a show cause hearing would be set so a judge decided who gets the property after hearing from both parties.  Regardless of what other charges may result, it's not very attractive to a district attorney if the 'victim' no longer wants to be the victim.

Gets even murkier when stolen property gets Inputted into NCIC police computer database and now you're dealing with other agencies, other states, non unique serial numbers, serial numbers that get transposed, property that had been recovered but never cleared from the computer, victims who can't be located and so on
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:36:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


No, not being a dick...changes and processes came about in some areas because of abuse of the system, it may have been a bullshit report to begin with, a family member, a crack deal, victim wants his stuff back but doesn't want to sign a complaint/affidavit, or changed his mind about pursuing a charge against a family member, a friend, of just doesn't want to be bothered, disappears.. Not just guns, burglaries, but back in the day when 'crack rentals' ( cars loaned out for dope, but later reported stolen) was prevelent.

After a number of lawsuits I know some police wouldn't even think about seizing reported stolen property without an affidavit signed, maybe even some type of warrant or alias warrant issued, and sometimes a search warrant by the court to seize a particular item...and if an innocent third party requested so, a show cause hearing would be set so a judge decided who gets the property after hearing from both parties.  Regardless of what other charges may result, it's not very attractive to a district attorney if the 'victim' no longer wants to be the victim.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

So who stole them?


Heroin addicted Granddaughter and her Felon boyfriend.

Seems they stole a bunch of nice jewelry and a couple guns (one was a P-38)  from her other Grandmother and her son (I know him too) called the gun owner to see if he was missing anything. That's when he discovered the broken lock on his wardrobe. The po-po said he said that he had not looked at the guns in years.....Bad health and all.

Quoted:
Stolen goods at a pawn shop!?!

Unpossible.


One of the pitfalls of pawn shop buying I guess....It happened to me a couple years ago....Same type of deal.

By law they have to have guns they buy from walk-ins checked to see if they were stolen. 10 days after that they can put them out for sale. That's in case they are reported stolen.

The trouble is if someone files a stolen property report afterwards and the gun was sold through the shop they "go after" the new owner to recover the stolen property.

That "possession is nine tenths of the law" thing does not quite work that way.  

It actually does, if you want to be a dick about it. I think the tort is conversion because the store and you both believed that you legally acquired the property even though it did not belong to the person who sold it to the store.

If you wanted to be a super-dick about it, you could have told them that you'll give it back when they go to court and get a writ of replevin. This takes time and costs money, so many people won't bother.

Since the store promised to make it right to you, you're probably best off not being a dick, or a super-dick.


No, not being a dick...changes and processes came about in some areas because of abuse of the system, it may have been a bullshit report to begin with, a family member, a crack deal, victim wants his stuff back but doesn't want to sign a complaint/affidavit, or changed his mind about pursuing a charge against a family member, a friend, of just doesn't want to be bothered, disappears.. Not just guns, burglaries, but back in the day when 'crack rentals' ( cars loaned out for dope, but later reported stolen) was prevelent.

After a number of lawsuits I know some police wouldn't even think about seizing reported stolen property without an affidavit signed, maybe even some type of warrant or alias warrant issued, and sometimes a search warrant by the court to seize a particular item...and if an innocent third party requested so, a show cause hearing would be set so a judge decided who gets the property after hearing from both parties.  Regardless of what other charges may result, it's not very attractive to a district attorney if the 'victim' no longer wants to be the victim.


In Virginia it does not matter if the gun owner wants to press charges against his granddaughter or not.

Once a report has been filed with the police then boom, instant felony charge for the preps. Grandpa no longer has a dog in the race other than recovering the property.

All involved on the stolen end of things are classified as a "victim". In this case the gun owner, the pawn shop owner, myself, and one other person that bought a Win. Red Letter M-37 from the shop.

In fact I filled out paperwork for restitution after I signed over the M1886 so maybe in a couple years I'll get a restitution check like the last time this happened.

Now if grandpa chooses not to receive restitution then that's on him....The felony charges go forward.



Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:39:20 PM EDT
[#12]
I had to surrender a pre-89 Daewoo at the fun shop before I could even take possession.  
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 11:20:58 PM EDT
[#13]
Ok I did not know that about Virginia. In many states where criminal justice seems to favor the criminal, the court gives him due process which often includes an opportunity to ask certain questions of the witnesses against him...and if the guy who owned the gun, changes his mind about being the victim, or whether it was really stolen, exchanged for sex, or lost in a card game, or any other far out defense offered up, going forward with that charge, or any charge as a result could be like a house of cards....that's not to say that the police will stop policing, arresting, seizing and so on
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 12:26:42 PM EDT
[#14]
I went down to the pawn shop and they made me whole or close enough to it to suit me.

They had a like new 12 ga 2-3/4 - 3" 28" barreled CZ Mallard O/U shotgun (Turk made for CZ) I'd fondled a couple of times and liked and I said I'd take it instead of cash.

It's made with a bit higher comb and DTs that suit me. It came with five choke tubes, wrench, and a Boyt canvas case.

Meh, not a M1886 Win. but shells are a lot easier to find.




Link Posted: 4/21/2016 12:35:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 12:46:21 PM EDT
[#16]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
I've never had a gun I bought at pawn shop come back stolen.

But your case seems unique with the delayed reporting.
View Quote

We had to enter every pawn or purchase into a state database in Florida, then sit on the item for 30 days. It seemed to discourage thieves from selling to pawn shops, but it also meant that when we did get a piece of stolen property, the theft was managed in a way that prevented discovery for a long time. One guy stole a few thousand dollars worth of jewelry from his girlfriend's safe just before she dumped him. It was mostly over priced junk set in gold, but she collected it and kept it in the original boxes in the safe. He took the jewelry and left the boxes.

A few months passed before she opened the boxes and discovered the theft. That stuff was scrapped as soon as it was able to be sold.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 12:56:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

I've never had a gun I bought at pawn shop come back stolen.

But your case seems unique with the delayed reporting.
View Quote


Hell this is the second time it's happened....Same type of crime, stealing guns from family members to support a heroin addiction.

The officer that recovered the M1886 said there has been a huge up-tick in family theft crimes the last couple years due to heroin addiction. he said it's really bad in our area.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 2:59:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Ok I did not know that about Virginia. In many states where criminal justice seems to favor the criminal, the court gives him due process which often includes an opportunity to ask certain questions of the witnesses against him...and if the guy who owned the gun, changes his mind about being the victim, or whether it was really stolen, exchanged for sex, or lost in a card game, or any other far out defense offered up, going forward with that charge, or any charge as a result could be like a house of cards....that's not to say that the police will stop policing, arresting, seizing and so on
View Quote


VA isn't just a Commonwealth in name only
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:15:37 PM EDT
[#19]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Nah, I view the rifle as tainted goods now and want no parts of it....Telling them what it was worth was me solving the potential "greed" problem and it being stayed solved.



I'll be made whole for what I paid by the pawn shop and that will be the end of it. I'll sell/trade the cartridges for more than I paid so it's all good.



Oddly enough I don't feel the least bit guilty about parting out the Savage. At least I made out on that one.

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:



That blows OP.   nice rifle there but happy for the old man...  I feel bad for him.




I already called his son (not the bad seed's father) and talked to him and told him what the rifle was worth and suggested that he ask for it after he said his Dad was getting pretty feeble and can't even go down the steps to the basement where the guns are/were kept anymore.



He said his Dad was just broken-hearted about the whole Granddaughter thing.



She is looking at a bunch of time and she has three kids. Felon BF has 20 probation years hanging over his head from jump-street.



In Virginia a gun theft is a automatic felony. Even if Granddad would not press charges for theft the state will, especially in this case with the number of guns stolen.







Since you know the family, if you can't buy the rifle from him, perhaps offer up the box of ammo if he lets you shoot it a few times?




Nah, I view the rifle as tainted goods now and want no parts of it....Telling them what it was worth was me solving the potential "greed" problem and it being stayed solved.



I'll be made whole for what I paid by the pawn shop and that will be the end of it. I'll sell/trade the cartridges for more than I paid so it's all good.



Oddly enough I don't feel the least bit guilty about parting out the Savage. At least I made out on that one.





 
This might not be over
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:17:49 PM EDT
[#20]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Quoted:



Dude, give the cops your number and ask them to give it to the old guy. Tell them you know his son and would buy it off of him.




I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.

Are you collecting the full amount you paid from the pawn shop for the 2 guns even though you parted out the savage?

 
Something tells me this is not ending up right?
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:23:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:24:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Well I hope that the OP is not so damned stupid that he would chop the original barrel on a nice 86 Winchester.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
What if the OP would have SBR'd that rifle and it was now in the NFA registry?  I assume the cops couldn't just take it then?


Well I hope that the OP is not so damned stupid that he would chop the original barrel on a nice 86 Winchester.



Well, he did buy them at a pawn shop full of stolen goods.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:25:38 PM EDT
[#23]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Well I hope that the OP is not so damned stupid that he would chop the original barrel on a nice 86 Winchester.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
What if the OP would have SBR'd that rifle and it was now in the NFA registry?  I assume the cops couldn't just take it then?


Well I hope that the OP is not so damned stupid that he would chop the original barrel on a nice 86 Winchester.


Lol..might want go to check out my thread
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:26:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 3:51:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Anyone else recall the statue at the UN building cast from melted down recovered guns?
One giant illegal obtained heap of crass propaganda.
View Quote

Link?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 4:28:13 PM EDT
[#26]
I hate thieves. That said, my son is one and is in jail at the present for B&E.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 5:42:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Are you collecting the full amount you paid from the pawn shop for the 2 guns even though you parted out the savage?   Something tells me this is not ending up right?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Dude, give the cops your number and ask them to give it to the old guy. Tell them you know his son and would buy it off of him.


I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.


Are you collecting the full amount you paid from the pawn shop for the 2 guns even though you parted out the savage?   Something tells me this is not ending up right?


Negative......I did not require restitution/reimbursement on the Savage as I did very well on it parting it out.

One thing I did find out today (I ran into the officer this morning at the pawn shop) is if the state would by chance lose the case (or drops charges in some kind of deal) I get the rifle back as I was the last legal owner.

The pawn shop and the guy that bought the M37 would also get their guns back. The guns in question will not be returned to grandpa till after the case is settled in court.

All kinds of weird shit can go on in these family theft cases particularly if drugs are involved but at least charges were filed this morning on the perps.

 
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 5:45:44 PM EDT
[#28]
I like your shotgun.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 6:00:53 PM EDT
[#29]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Negative......I did not require restitution/reimbursement on the Savage as I did very well on it parting it out.



One thing I did find out today (I ran into the officer this morning at the pawn shop) is if the state would by chance lose the case (or drops charges in some kind of deal) I get the rifle back as I was the last legal owner.



The pawn shop and the guy that bought the M37 would also get their guns back. The guns in question will not be returned to grandpa till after the case is settled in court.



All kinds of weird shit can go on in these family theft cases particularly if drugs are involved but at least charges were filed this morning on the perps.



 

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:



Dude, give the cops your number and ask them to give it to the old guy. Tell them you know his son and would buy it off of him.




I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.





Are you collecting the full amount you paid from the pawn shop for the 2 guns even though you parted out the savage?   Something tells me this is not ending up right?





Negative......I did not require restitution/reimbursement on the Savage as I did very well on it parting it out.



One thing I did find out today (I ran into the officer this morning at the pawn shop) is if the state would by chance lose the case (or drops charges in some kind of deal) I get the rifle back as I was the last legal owner.



The pawn shop and the guy that bought the M37 would also get their guns back. The guns in question will not be returned to grandpa till after the case is settled in court.



All kinds of weird shit can go on in these family theft cases particularly if drugs are involved but at least charges were filed this morning on the perps.



 

Dropping the criminal case does not change the legal ownership of the gun (Guns still belonged the old guy), plus you have already been compensated by the pawn shop so tech they would be but I do not believe either you or the pawn shop ever had legal ownership of the guns.

 
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 7:03:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Dropping the criminal case does not change the legal ownership of the gun (Guns still belonged the old guy), plus you have already been compensated by the pawn shop so tech they would be but I do not believe either you or the pawn shop ever had legal ownership of the guns.  
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Dude, give the cops your number and ask them to give it to the old guy. Tell them you know his son and would buy it off of him.


I know him and he's only about a half-mile away...I just don't want it anymore.


Are you collecting the full amount you paid from the pawn shop for the 2 guns even though you parted out the savage?   Something tells me this is not ending up right?


Negative......I did not require restitution/reimbursement on the Savage as I did very well on it parting it out.

One thing I did find out today (I ran into the officer this morning at the pawn shop) is if the state would by chance lose the case (or drops charges in some kind of deal) I get the rifle back as I was the last legal owner.

The pawn shop and the guy that bought the M37 would also get their guns back. The guns in question will not be returned to grandpa till after the case is settled in court.

All kinds of weird shit can go on in these family theft cases particularly if drugs are involved but at least charges were filed this morning on the perps.

 
Dropping the criminal case does not change the legal ownership of the gun (Guns still belonged the old guy), plus you have already been compensated by the pawn shop so tech they would be but I do not believe either you or the pawn shop ever had legal ownership of the guns.  


Yeah, I was all like too but that is what I was told.

It has more to do if grandpa went to court or told the po-po before then that he "forgot" he gave the guns to his Granddaughter. 82 years old and feeble of mind and body according to his son....What's going to happen to him anyway if he does?

When push comes to shove family members will do some strange shit to protect other family members that have gone astray.....Pressure on grandpa from kit and kin and possibly his desire for the whole issue to go away is very powerful.

In that case the guns do belong to the pawn shop/buyers as they would then be considered gifted guns and the shop bought them from the "legal owner".

At least since there was a felon accomplice (BF) he might get the 20 hanging over his head for selling the P-38.


Link Posted: 4/21/2016 9:33:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Since you know the family, if you can't buy the rifle from him, perhaps offer up the box of ammo if he lets you shoot it a few times?
View Quote

I like this idea!!   Gently ask the son to buy the gun from the estate if and when it becomes available.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 9:46:45 PM EDT
[#32]
Your situation went a little better than mine.  I bought a Browning BPS years ago from a local pawn shop, one that had been reported stolen several years prior to that and had been in the LEADS system for several months before I bought it.  Even with the serial number in the system, local sheriff department flat out missed it and was never flagged...until I had it for a month or two.  Sheriff's Department flat out didn't give a damn whether I was made whole or not, was wishy washy whether anyone would actually be charged with the theft, and threatened to charge me with possession of stolen property....ultimately ended with me being trespassed from the local sheriff's detective office.

I was eventually refunded by the pawn shop, but the entire fiasco left me with a less than favorable impression of local LEO's....
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 10:10:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Po Po? I'll bet you go Pee Pee and Poo Poo, don't you?
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 10:22:25 PM EDT
[#34]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:





Wrong
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Quoted:

So the pawn shop out the money? Here I think the pawn shop gets to keep the stolen goods if owner doesn't pay the pawn shop

cost. In other words owner has to pay to get his property back. I may be entirely wrong though.


Wrong
He's not wrong. That's the way it works here in FL.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 2:43:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
He's not wrong. That's the way it works here in FL.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So the pawn shop out the money? Here I think the pawn shop gets to keep the stolen goods if owner doesn't pay the pawn shop
cost. In other words owner has to pay to get his property back. I may be entirely wrong though.

Wrong
He's not wrong. That's the way it works here in FL.

I ran a pawn shop in Florida. The pawn shop can relinquish the item or it can refuse to do so until the owner gets a writ of replevin from the county court. When the shop gets served with the writ, they must return the item.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:15:49 AM EDT
[#36]
seems that the word Po Po  gets some hackles up around here.  
maybe everyone should start using it more. it's just a fucking phrase.  
get over yourselves.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:25:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



I ran a pawn shop in Florida. The pawn shop can relinquish the item or it can refuse to do so until the owner gets a writ of replevin from the county court. When the shop gets served with the writ, they must return the item.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So the pawn shop out the money? Here I think the pawn shop gets to keep the stolen goods if owner doesn't pay the pawn shop
cost. In other words owner has to pay to get his property back. I may be entirely wrong though.

Wrong
He's not wrong. That's the way it works here in FL.


I ran a pawn shop in Florida. The pawn shop can relinquish the item or it can refuse to do so until the owner gets a writ of replevin from the county court. When the shop gets served with the writ, they must return the item.


From what I understand the owner here could have done something similar. I don't know if the process is called the same or not.

I think he's about like me and does not want to mess with it. Small town and all so it would not take long for the kit and kin to make him out like a dick even though he's a victim too. Better to let the police have them and be shed of the possession issue.

Thing is he will still have to go to court and testify as to the circumstances of the sale.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:32:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Same thing happened to me. Bought a beautiful Persian Mauser and 2 weeks later a sheriff calls me up while I'm at Annual Training and tells me I bought a stolen rifle.Sheriff told me the guys grandson stole guns and sold them. Fucking gun shop said they didn't have the cash to pay me back. The owner of the gun shop is dead now. Fuck it.
View Quote

You killed him?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:32:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
seems that the word Po Po  gets some hackles up around here.  
maybe everyone should start using it more. it's just a fucking phrase.  
get over yourselves.
View Quote


It didn't get my hackles up, it just sounds stupid. Just because a non-word gets used a lot doesn't mean it doesn't sound idiotic. Now you can get over yourself.
Page / 2
Next Page Arrow Left
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top