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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:32:47 PM EDT
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Outstanding!!!! There is no doubt, that passage of the ammendment will set the tone for other states that are half sane or better. Missouri taking the lead...I like it! Well, we need to pass it first. 
It just dropped to only 64% Yes, with 2,972 precincts reporting. Scary that 35% of people would vote against a state amendment that basically mirrors the Second Amendment. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:33:43 PM EDT
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The margin is getting a little smaller again... Constitutional Amendment 5 2609 of 3898 Precincts Reported YES 490,565 66.264% NO 249,755 33.736% Total Votes:740,320 And those blue precincts still aren't reporting... They always wait until last.........to see how many votes are needed to affect the outcome.....and always for the left. Personally I would like to see NO reporting until all precincts are counted and then all Counties would be required to report at the same time. It would stop any fudging by the big urban areas. STL and KC reporting last has always been suspicious, I am old enough to remember when they were first and that was before we had all the technology we have today.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:34:28 PM EDT
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Lookin good so far
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:35:04 PM EDT
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230k votes ahead with 80% of precincts reporting.
I've seen worse. Still nervous about STL & KC. ETA - nice to see the transportation tax shut down. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:36:28 PM EDT
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St. Louis is in: 36,604 yes and 51,178 no.
St. Louis City is in too: 6,120 yes and 15,208 no. ETA: Total is 63.45% yes right now. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:40:02 PM EDT
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Now if the MO legislature would only pass a right to work law, things would be really awesome.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:40:45 PM EDT
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AP just marked Amendment 5 a winner.
ETA - Linky http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2014/by_state/MO_Page_0805.html?SITE=KMBCTVELN&SECTION=POLITICS |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:41:08 PM EDT
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Thats what 'except' means, Poindexter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unalienable, except... 
Who writes this shit? someone who can't grasp the definition of unalienable?
Thats what 'except' means, Poindexter. in·alien·able adjective \(?)i-'nal-y?-n?-b?l, -'na-le-?-n?-\
: impossible to take away or give up there's no crying in baseball and no "except" in impossible, Bunky. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:42:31 PM EDT
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Constitutional Amendment 5
3147 of 3898 Precincts Reported YES 549,929 63.583% NO 314,968 36.417% Total Votes:864,897 |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Nice to see, keep up the good work.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:46:09 PM EDT
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We should just let Illinois annex St Louis and Kansas can take Kansas City....their state is in the name and all.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:47:52 PM EDT
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What kind of commie fuckhead votes against the right to keep and bear arms  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Back over 70% so far... Constitutional Amendment 5 664 of 3898 Precincts Reported YES 152,191 70.130% NO 64,821 29.870% Total Votes:217,012 Dammit, Goatboy. Why is it ignoring my spaces? What kind of commie fuckhead votes against the right to keep and bear arms The kind that realize that they can't give you rights. They are giving you a privilege. People are licking it up. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:48:05 PM EDT
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We should just let Illinois annex St Louis and Kansas can take Kansas City....their state is in the name and all. Only if we can exchange KCK for KCMO and then cut KCK out of the equation. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:48:37 PM EDT
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I think we'll pass it, but it's sad that this is only at 62% yes.
And comparatively, Missouri is a very pro-gun state. I wonder if it had anything to do with the level of voter turnout. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:49:28 PM EDT
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:50:22 PM EDT
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Only if we can exchange KCK for KCMO and then cut KCK out of the equation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We should just let Illinois annex St Louis and Kansas can take Kansas City....their state is in the name and all. Only if we can exchange KCK for KCMO and then cut KCK out of the equation. Nope. The 'dotte is all yours. 
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:51:37 PM EDT
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:51:51 PM EDT
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I think we'll pass it, but it's sad that this is only at 62% yes. And comparatively, Missouri is a very pro-gun state. I wonder if it had anything to do with the level of voter turnout. Remember, in 1999 CCW was rejected by MO voters (51.7% to 48.3). We've come a long way and are moving in the right direction. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:52:23 PM EDT
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I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? No, its removing the exclusion. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:52:44 PM EDT
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One thing we have learned about Constitutions is that they are just words on paper unless those words are also written into your heart! Here's to Missouri's continued win over evil.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:53:42 PM EDT
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No, its removing the exclusion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? No, its removing the exclusion. Ahh! Very nice! Welcome to the club! |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:53:48 PM EDT
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I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? I think we both missed it. The bold brackets omit that clause from the existing law.
I don't fully understand what that does to CCW in MO. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:55:07 PM EDT
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I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:55:43 PM EDT
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I hit it.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:56:59 PM EDT
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The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. The amendment amends the state constitution. The parts in brackets are being removed, the bolded parts are being inserted. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:58:20 PM EDT
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It's done, we won, and the farm bill is going to pass. Woot!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:00:33 PM EDT
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Not ideal. But it's a step in the right direction.
At least they leave open carry as an option. Even though I believe in Constitutional Carry. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:01:34 PM EDT
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needs to be mire like my sig line
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:02:27 PM EDT
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Not ideal. But it's a step in the right direction. At least they leave open carry as an option. Even though I believe in Constitutional Carry. How are you reading this to be against constitutional carry ? |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:04:58 PM EDT
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I did my part and I live in STL.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:05:10 PM EDT
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needs to be mire like my sig line "Keep and bear" what? Your sig line is missing an important word. 
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:07:17 PM EDT
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I did my part and I live in STL. As did I my friend |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Goodbye ccw requirement. Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. IMHO the way the Amendment reads, this could now be used to call into question the entire permitting process ... hello Constitutional Carry!! I think they did this on purpose to stick it in Nixon's ass... See below: The prosecuting attorney for Boone County said, fundamentally, this amendment is not necessary for Missourians to have the right to bear arms, law-abiding citizens already have that right, and it is not going to go away. However, if this proposed amendment is incorporated into Missouri's constitution, Daniel Knight said it would likely cause more harm than good. "If this amendment passes, reasonable laws that are on the books to protect the public safety dealing with individuals carrying concealed firearms very likely will be eliminated, Knight said. He is referring to the change which would remove the clause about carrying concealed weapons. Supporters say this clause is outdated and needs to be removed, but Knight said removing it would allow people to challenge the ban on concealed weapons in public area, such as schools or daycare facilities. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lookin good so far Your comment with your avatar. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:08:00 PM EDT
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okay it's late and I'm confused , do I no longer need a permit for CCW in MO or not
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:13:04 PM EDT
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okay it's late and I'm confused , do I no longer need a permit for CCW in MO or not I expect a test case will be needed. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: okay it's late and I'm confused , do I no longer need a permit for CCW in MO or not For now yes... but having a CCW permit is likely going to be challenged in court now. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:14:04 PM EDT
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Rat Bastards...
Kansas City Y- 12,145 N- 25,167 St. Louis Y-64,887 N-89,351 St. Louis City Y-6,120 N-15,208 |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:14:16 PM EDT
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The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:16:49 PM EDT
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Remember, in 1999 CCW was rejected by MO voters (51.7% to 48.3). We've come a long way and are moving in the right direction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we'll pass it, but it's sad that this is only at 62% yes. And comparatively, Missouri is a very pro-gun state. I wonder if it had anything to do with the level of voter turnout. Remember, in 1999 CCW was rejected by MO voters (51.7% to 48.3). We've come a long way and are moving in the right direction. That was because of Mel Carnahan's daughter, (forget her name, but she's a liberal retard) wrote the ballot summary and there was a huge deal about how it was misleading and written in a such a manner as to prevent its passing. They tried to do the same thing this time, (the Anti's) buy suing to change the ballot summary, but lost in court. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:17:15 PM EDT
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Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. Got it, I was confused about that part currently being part of the law. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:18:02 PM EDT
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Rat Bastards... Kansas City Y- 12,145 N- 25,167 St. Louis Y-64,887 N-89,351 St. Louis City Y-6,120 N-15,208 Did you expect anything less from the sheeple of the metropolitan areas? |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:18:10 PM EDT
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Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. As-amended, it will read as follows: Section 23. That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms, ammunition, and accessories typical to the normal function of such arms, in defense of his home, person, family and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned. The rights guaranteed by this section shall be unalienable. Any restriction on these rights shall be subject to strict scrutiny and the state of Missouri shall be obligated to uphold these rights and shall under no circumstances decline to protect against their infringement. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the general assembly from enacting general laws which limit the rights of convicted violent felons or those duly adjudged mentally infirm by a court of competent jurisdiction.[6] Emphasis mine. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:18:54 PM EDT
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Got it, I was confused about that part currently being part of the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Goodbye ccw requirement.
Liberals heads are exploding right now. I read the amendment to specifically exclude CCW. Did I miss something? The way I took it, it excluded the ccw but was in brackets if you notice, The explanation for the brackets was that portion would not be enacted and intended to be omitted in the law. Currently a part of the law that this amendment would remove. Got it, I was confused about that part currently being part of the law. 
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:19:14 PM EDT
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They always wait until last.........to see how many votes are needed to affect the outcome.....and always for the left. Personally I would like to see NO reporting until all precincts are counted and then all Counties would be required to report at the same time. It would stop any fudging by the big urban areas. STL and KC reporting last has always been suspicious, I am old enough to remember when they were first and that was before we had all the technology we have today.
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The margin is getting a little smaller again... Constitutional Amendment 5 2609 of 3898 Precincts Reported YES 490,565 66.264% NO 249,755 33.736% Total Votes:740,320 And those blue precincts still aren't reporting... They always wait until last.........to see how many votes are needed to affect the outcome.....and always for the left. Personally I would like to see NO reporting until all precincts are counted and then all Counties would be required to report at the same time. It would stop any fudging by the big urban areas. STL and KC reporting last has always been suspicious, I am old enough to remember when they were first and that was before we had all the technology we have today.
They do it in that order so the little guy still feels motivated to vote, and doesn't feel like it is over before it's over. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:22:11 PM EDT
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Rat Bastards... Kansas City Y- 12,145 N- 25,167 St. Louis Y-64,887 N-89,351 St. Louis City Y-6,120 N-15,208 Fuck cities! At least this time they didn't rule the state. Good job MO. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:24:21 PM EDT
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i didn't know this was even on the ballot. there's been nothing on the st louis news that i saw.. glad to see it passing.. You didn't see it on the ballot when you went to vote? |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:30:59 PM EDT
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That was because of Mel Carnahan's daughter, (forget her name, but she's a liberal retard) wrote the ballot summary and there was a huge deal about how it was misleading and written in a such a manner as to prevent its passing. They tried to do the same thing this time, (the Anti's) buy suing to change the ballot summary, but lost in court. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we'll pass it, but it's sad that this is only at 62% yes. And comparatively, Missouri is a very pro-gun state. I wonder if it had anything to do with the level of voter turnout. Remember, in 1999 CCW was rejected by MO voters (51.7% to 48.3). We've come a long way and are moving in the right direction. That was because of Mel Carnahan's daughter, (forget her name, but she's a liberal retard) wrote the ballot summary and there was a huge deal about how it was misleading and written in a such a manner as to prevent its passing. They tried to do the same thing this time, (the Anti's) buy suing to change the ballot summary, but lost in court. I was in college working at a gun store in '99. I remember that drama well. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:36:38 PM EDT
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I was in college working at a gun store in '99. I remember that drama well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we'll pass it, but it's sad that this is only at 62% yes. And comparatively, Missouri is a very pro-gun state. I wonder if it had anything to do with the level of voter turnout. Remember, in 1999 CCW was rejected by MO voters (51.7% to 48.3). We've come a long way and are moving in the right direction. That was because of Mel Carnahan's daughter, (forget her name, but she's a liberal retard) wrote the ballot summary and there was a huge deal about how it was misleading and written in a such a manner as to prevent its passing. They tried to do the same thing this time, (the Anti's) buy suing to change the ballot summary, but lost in court. I was in college working at a gun store in '99. I remember that drama well. I bought my Kimber Elite Carry that year in anticipation of being able to legally CCW the gun. I was seriously disappointed in the results of the election, but very much happy with the gun. Still have the gun, and now we have better than CCW in the state. Plus Charlie Dooley, (Criminal Dem St Louis County Executive) just lost the primary....so a fairly good night all things considered. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:38:15 PM EDT
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Yes582,944 62%
No354,554 38% Updated: August 05, 2014 11:12 PM YES!!!!!!!! |
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