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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:37:48 AM EDT
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The MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that’s technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that’s it. Serious? Jerry Tsai, a former editor of Recoil magazine wrote those words in the 4th issue. He was no longer the editor when the 5th issue came out. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:38:03 AM EDT
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nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rather have an m92 PAP. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile this gun was nothing more than a filler for when dracos weren't being imported after it happened, nobody gave a shit about them anymore Except the M92 PAP has a longer sight radius and doesn't have the piece of shit rear sight of the Draco. nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait All AKs are trash bud. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:38:57 AM EDT
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Am I the only person who has shot a MP7A1 and just wasn't impressed with it? I haven't shot one, but I do think the gun is pretty impressive. I have very serious doubts about the effectiveness of the round to stop fights though. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:40:41 AM EDT
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It has it's advantages....fits in a smaller trashcan.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:40:44 AM EDT
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How deep is your stack of corrosive 7.62x39? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rather have an m92 PAP. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile this gun was nothing more than a filler for when dracos weren't being imported after it happened, nobody gave a shit about them anymore Except the M92 PAP has a longer sight radius and doesn't have the piece of shit rear sight of the Draco. nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait How deep is your stack of corrosive 7.62x39? yes, because corrosion is only caused by corrosive ammo |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:40:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then how did these slimy hands get on it? http://i68.tinypic.com/2wqxus7.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/9tg0tt.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that’s technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that’s it. Then how did these slimy hands get on it? http://i68.tinypic.com/2wqxus7.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/9tg0tt.jpg Please???? I'm late to the party, but I'm happy with my 11.5" AR with a few mags of the Hornady SBR, or Black Hills 50 grain Barnes for defensive use, I use M193 for practice. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:41:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thread needs more short barrel 54R.............. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/43/38/28/4338282aff60dab8a4661ead08ab2e09.jpg |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:48:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:49:38 AM EDT
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yes, because corrosion is only caused by corrosive ammo Quote HistoryQuoted:
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nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait How deep is your stack of corrosive 7.62x39? yes, because corrosion is only caused by corrosive ammo I am sorry that illiterate 3rd world conscript child soldiers know how to clean guns but you don't. You should look for videos on Youtube on how to to that. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:52:20 AM EDT
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When you need more...
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:58:06 AM EDT
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nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rather have an m92 PAP. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile this gun was nothing more than a filler for when dracos weren't being imported after it happened, nobody gave a shit about them anymore Except the M92 PAP has a longer sight radius and doesn't have the piece of shit rear sight of the Draco. nice chrome lined barrel on the m92 oh wait When you shoot the barrel out of your $400 gun, you can spend $150-ish to replace it. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:58:21 AM EDT
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The drop in velocity from 11.5" to 7.5" is substantial. Not a practical firearm due to noise, blast, and sight radius. I have both a mini and a regular draco. they are fun but jebus you need like 3 layers of hearing protection just to pull the trigger and the blast will liquefy internal organs 3 stalls down. even with a can on the mini it is still very loud and not hearing safe. I couldn't imagine shooting it indoors at night in a narrow hallway. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:59:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:00:57 AM EDT
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I came for the trashcan gun, but I stayed for the T-Swift stalker. He has my attention as well It's actually pretty creepy. I had lost interest in this retarded rant thread and was about to close the tab. I'm now glad I did not. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:20:37 AM EDT
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It's actually pretty creepy. I had lost interest in this retarded rant thread and was about to close the tab. I'm now glad I did not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I came for the trashcan gun, but I stayed for the T-Swift stalker. He has my attention as well It's actually pretty creepy. I had lost interest in this retarded rant thread and was about to close the tab. I'm now glad I did not. I think those come with the album or something... |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:26:37 AM EDT
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More SLR porn please.
Also, yall seem to really like Holosuns. Got to admit, I'm pretty impressed with mine. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:33:51 AM EDT
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Range toy SBR:
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Real PDW (.300BLK, not Combloc garbage round) 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:37:22 AM EDT
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Wrong in so many ways. The "benchmark" for temporary cavity damage is about 2000 FPS. That's not to say that it doesn't happen at 1999, but it's an agreeable number. Below that 2000 FPS, your bullet tends to poke a hole in flesh and do little else. Now, yes, a bullet going 1900 FPS will break bones better than a bullet going 1200 FPS, all things equal, but our goal isn't to break bones. It's to fuck up cardiovascular or nervous systems. The 11.5" AR, with commonly found Fusion MSR ammo, will do this out to 200 yards. I don't even know if a micro Draco will even do it out of the muzzle. Your gun is bad and you should feel bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Since 7.62x39 isn't as dependent on velocity as .223/5.56 Wrong in so many ways. The "benchmark" for temporary cavity damage is about 2000 FPS. That's not to say that it doesn't happen at 1999, but it's an agreeable number. Below that 2000 FPS, your bullet tends to poke a hole in flesh and do little else. Now, yes, a bullet going 1900 FPS will break bones better than a bullet going 1200 FPS, all things equal, but our goal isn't to break bones. It's to fuck up cardiovascular or nervous systems. The 11.5" AR, with commonly found Fusion MSR ammo, will do this out to 200 yards. I don't even know if a micro Draco will even do it out of the muzzle. Your gun is bad and you should feel bad. The part in red: where are you getting this information? I tend to agree that 2000fps is roughly the magic number but can't find any documentation that supports it. Most "rifle" cartridges are over 2000 fps except maybe the older ones that use cast bullets. It would also support my contention that if the m1 carbine had about 2 or 300 fps more it would have been way ahead of it's time. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:38:00 AM EDT
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The Micro Draco isn't, because it's a heaping pile of shit. .223/5.56 sucks dick when it comes from a 7.5"-11.5" because it never has a chance for velocity. It never even has its gun. As the proud owner of 6 Colt 6920s with no furniture or trigger time and numerous AR-15s that have been liquidated for medical bills, I can say that I'm a proponent of the .223/5.56. They all have 16.1" barrels, though, which means that they're actually useful. If you have something that's less than 14.5", then you're basically carrying a cancer patient in the form of a gun. It's an anemic, key-holing safe filler that you'll occasionally take out to show your friends so that you can feel better about spending $200 on a tax stamp for an ineffective weapon. Or you'll just have Shockwave on it; in that case, you'll feel bad for spending ~$50. Here's some objective information regarding your velocity: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/Mazer18/velocity.jpg Notice how it excludes oddball lengths like 7.5"; that's because they're not even worth time on a chrono. http://www.operator7airsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/larry-vickers.jpg But the Mini Draco, even in a non-NFA registered configuration, offers a compact PDW in a time proven design. Also, your weapon will actually work when it's equipped with a side folding stock. http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsmfmcwcme.jpg Notice the velocity numbers from the Draco (which is slightly longer, but we'll lie and say that the Micro Draco has the same numbers. Energy has also been excluded from this chart because you already know that it's pretty high, so we don't need numbers: http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz28/pogi_pogi_pogi/762x39Velocities1.png Since 7.62x39 isn't as dependent on velocity as .223/5.56, the Micro Draco has a formidable advantage over similarly sized weapons. At a street price of $499-599, it offers an immense amount of value, fun, time, commitment, joy, compact, and wholehearted goodness that you won't find in any other platform. 
My 6.8 laughs as your silly 7.62x39. More accuracy, more velocity, more boner inducing blast! 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:45:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you trying to prove that you didn't read every post in the thread? 'cause that's how you prove you didn't read every post in the thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol @ the people saying than a short bbl AK isn't effective. Same guy prolly owns a 308 and talks shit at the range how he could kill a terrorist at 500m or 1000m with it. What's the fps on that bullet at 500/1000 again? Yeah. A short AK is perfectly acceptable as a pdw where you're engaging at very close ranges. Much more effective than any pcc and I see no evidence that it's less effective than a 556 either. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are you trying to prove that you didn't read every post in the thread? 'cause that's how you prove you didn't read every post in the thread. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Oh, but I did. And no one said that a short barreled AK is "ineffective". A crappy gun, sure, and that's true. 7.62 x 39 performs poorly in both gel and meat, producing mostly through and through holes with little or no additional tissue damage, yep, people said that, and both are true. But no one made the claim that they're ineffective. Either you have serious reading comprehension problems, or you set up the straw man (that people are saying that short AKs are ineffective) so you can knock it down, and therefore want to make your point in a dishonest way. If you have the truly terrible reading comprehension (giving you the benefit of the doubt), then perhaps you thought that these two were speaking seriously, and not loaded with huge amounts of sarcasm, which is what was actually happening. Quoted: Quoted: Everybody knows that you can't effectively defend yourself with a short, more concealable piece packing nearly 30/30 ballistics. Heck, ever since .223 and .300WM were invented, 30/30 won't even drop a 50 lb fawn anymore. Now, the OP, he called short ARs "ineffective", which is a just plain stupid thing to say. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:47:07 AM EDT
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My 6.8 laughs as your silly 7.62x39. More accuracy, more velocity, more boner inducing blast! <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mdar15manager/media/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/mdar15manager/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Micro Draco isn't, because it's a heaping pile of shit. .223/5.56 sucks dick when it comes from a 7.5"-11.5" because it never has a chance for velocity. It never even has its gun. As the proud owner of 6 Colt 6920s with no furniture or trigger time and numerous AR-15s that have been liquidated for medical bills, I can say that I'm a proponent of the .223/5.56. They all have 16.1" barrels, though, which means that they're actually useful. If you have something that's less than 14.5", then you're basically carrying a cancer patient in the form of a gun. It's an anemic, key-holing safe filler that you'll occasionally take out to show your friends so that you can feel better about spending $200 on a tax stamp for an ineffective weapon. Or you'll just have Shockwave on it; in that case, you'll feel bad for spending ~$50. Here's some objective information regarding your velocity: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/Mazer18/velocity.jpg Notice how it excludes oddball lengths like 7.5"; that's because they're not even worth time on a chrono. http://www.operator7airsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/larry-vickers.jpg But the Mini Draco, even in a non-NFA registered configuration, offers a compact PDW in a time proven design. Also, your weapon will actually work when it's equipped with a side folding stock. http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsmfmcwcme.jpg Notice the velocity numbers from the Draco (which is slightly longer, but we'll lie and say that the Micro Draco has the same numbers. Energy has also been excluded from this chart because you already know that it's pretty high, so we don't need numbers: http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz28/pogi_pogi_pogi/762x39Velocities1.png Since 7.62x39 isn't as dependent on velocity as .223/5.56, the Micro Draco has a formidable advantage over similarly sized weapons. At a street price of $499-599, it offers an immense amount of value, fun, time, commitment, joy, compact, and wholehearted goodness that you won't find in any other platform.
My 6.8 laughs as your silly 7.62x39. More accuracy, more velocity, more boner inducing blast! <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mdar15manager/media/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/mdar15manager/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg</a> LOL 2007 called and wants its cartridge back |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:49:40 AM EDT
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The Micro Draco isn't, because it's a heaping pile of shit. .223/5.56 sucks dick when it comes from a 7.5"-11.5" because it never has a chance for velocity. It never even has its gun. As the proud owner of 6 Colt 6920s with no furniture or trigger time and numerous AR-15s that have been liquidated for medical bills, I can say that I'm a proponent of the .223/5.56. They all have 16.1" barrels, though, which means that they're actually useful. If you have something that's less than 14.5", then you're basically carrying a cancer patient in the form of a gun. It's an anemic, key-holing safe filler that you'll occasionally take out to show your friends so that you can feel better about spending $200 on a tax stamp for an ineffective weapon. Or you'll just have Shockwave on it; in that case, you'll feel bad for spending ~$50. Here's some objective information regarding your velocity: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/Mazer18/velocity.jpg Notice how it excludes oddball lengths like 7.5"; that's because they're not even worth time on a chrono. http://www.operator7airsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/larry-vickers.jpg But the Mini Draco, even in a non-NFA registered configuration, offers a compact PDW in a time proven design. Also, your weapon will actually work when it's equipped with a side folding stock. http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsmfmcwcme.jpg Notice the velocity numbers from the Draco (which is slightly longer, but we'll lie and say that the Micro Draco has the same numbers. Energy has also been excluded from this chart because you already know that it's pretty high, so we don't need numbers: http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz28/pogi_pogi_pogi/762x39Velocities1.png Since 7.62x39 isn't as dependent on velocity as .223/5.56, the Micro Draco has a formidable advantage over similarly sized weapons. At a street price of $499-599, it offers an immense amount of value, fun, time, commitment, joy, compact, and wholehearted goodness that you won't find in any other platform.
My 6.8 laughs as your silly 7.62x39. More accuracy, more velocity, more boner inducing blast! <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mdar15manager/media/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/mdar15manager/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg</a> LOL 2007 called and wants its cartridge back Big talk for a guy shooting a cartridge designed in 1943. Gramps you're low speed and high drag - I actually want to hit the targets at range. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:51:28 AM EDT
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real SEALs know Mk18s just tickle hajis
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:55:18 AM EDT
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? Because I don't waste my time with pop culture. I couldn't think of what her name was for 10 minutes, but I realized it was that singer. And it seemed odd for a grown man to have photos with notes scribbled on them, stalker like, of some celebrity woman. But then I learn through the massive suppository of mostly useless information that is GD, that perhaps she included these copies of Polaroids in her latest CD or album. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:57:04 AM EDT
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LOL 2007 called and wants its cartridge back Huh... 1943 sent a telegram. Keep Combloc garbage round STOP. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:01:00 AM EDT
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Because I don't waste my time with pop culture. I couldn't think of what her name was for 10 minutes, but I realized it was that singer. And it seemed odd for a grown man to have photos with notes scribbled on them, stalker like, of some celebrity woman. But then I learn through the massive suppository of mostly useless information that is GD, that perhaps she included these copies of Polaroids in her latest CD or album. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? Because I don't waste my time with pop culture. I couldn't think of what her name was for 10 minutes, but I realized it was that singer. And it seemed odd for a grown man to have photos with notes scribbled on them, stalker like, of some celebrity woman. But then I learn through the massive suppository of mostly useless information that is GD, that perhaps she included these copies of Polaroids in her latest CD or album. Really explains why you felt the need to ask about/comment on them, eh? 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:04:30 AM EDT
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? The aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on... I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:11:11 AM EDT
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I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? The aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on... I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? You should see the room I have built for her. Plush pillows, scented candles, a restored antique vanity, and a mini fridge stocked with her favorite bottled water, Diet Coke, and cookie dough ice cream sandwiches in the freezer. She'll never want to leave. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:14:51 AM EDT
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Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? You should see the room I have built for her. Plush pillows, scented candles, a restored antique vanity, and a mini fridge stocked with her favorite bottled water, Diet Coke, and cookie dough ice cream sandwiches in the freezer. She'll never want to leave. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? The aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on... I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? You should see the room I have built for her. Plush pillows, scented candles, a restored antique vanity, and a mini fridge stocked with her favorite bottled water, Diet Coke, and cookie dough ice cream sandwiches in the freezer. She'll never want to leave. There's a fine line between "want" and "be able to". |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:15:33 AM EDT
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Eh, why would you use shit ammo that needs high velocity in a PDW?
My 7.5" .223 TSX load seems effective. 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:15:43 AM EDT
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I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are those Taylor Swift stalker photos? Why do so many people seem to have a problem with these pictures? The aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on... I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos. Dude, the pics come with the album. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:17:47 AM EDT
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If I am shopping for a PDW (or scuba gear, parachutes, etc.), "affordability" is not one of my prime considerations. Just limit your diving to 15 ft and don't parachute from higher than 15 ft
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:18:07 AM EDT
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Dude, the pics come with the album. If you asked me which I'd rather have watching my back... a creepy celeb photo stalker or somebody who bought a Taylor Swift album... I'd have to give it some serious thought. 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:26:12 AM EDT
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24" of PDW goodness. 110 VORTX is expensive ammo but expands out past 200 yards in my 8.5" 300 blackout and has worked well on Georgia whitetail.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:27:06 AM EDT
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If you asked me which I'd rather have watching my back... a creepy celeb photo stalker or somebody who bought a Taylor Swift album... I'd have to give it some serious thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, the pics come with the album. If you asked me which I'd rather have watching my back... a creepy celeb photo stalker or somebody who bought a Taylor Swift album... I'd have to give it some serious thought.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:49:45 AM EDT
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The Micro Draco isn't, because it's a heaping pile of shit. .223/5.56 sucks dick when it comes from a 7.5"-11.5" because it never has a chance for velocity. It never even has its gun. As the proud owner of 6 Colt 6920s with no furniture or trigger time and numerous AR-15s that have been liquidated for medical bills, I can say that I'm a proponent of the .223/5.56. They all have 16.1" barrels, though, which means that they're actually useful. If you have something that's less than 14.5", then you're basically carrying a cancer patient in the form of a gun. It's an anemic, key-holing safe filler that you'll occasionally take out to show your friends so that you can feel better about spending $200 on a tax stamp for an ineffective weapon. Or you'll just have Shockwave on it; in that case, you'll feel bad for spending ~$50. Here's some objective information regarding your velocity: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/Mazer18/velocity.jpg Notice how it excludes oddball lengths like 7.5"; that's because they're not even worth time on a chrono. http://www.operator7airsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/larry-vickers.jpg But the Mini Draco, even in a non-NFA registered configuration, offers a compact PDW in a time proven design. Also, your weapon will actually work when it's equipped with a side folding stock. http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsmfmcwcme.jpg Notice the velocity numbers from the Draco (which is slightly longer, but we'll lie and say that the Micro Draco has the same numbers. Energy has also been excluded from this chart because you already know that it's pretty high, so we don't need numbers: http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz28/pogi_pogi_pogi/762x39Velocities1.png Since 7.62x39 isn't as dependent on velocity as .223/5.56, the Micro Draco has a formidable advantage over similarly sized weapons. At a street price of $499-599, it offers an immense amount of value, fun, time, commitment, joy, compact, and wholehearted goodness that you won't find in any other platform.
My 6.8 laughs as your silly 7.62x39. More accuracy, more velocity, more boner inducing blast! <a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/user/mdar15manager/media/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/mdar15manager/6_8%20SPC/IMG_20160117_210344401_zpsokgp7tn0.jpg</a> LOL 2007 called and wants its cartridge back 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:52:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on.. I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos.
Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? Quote HistoryThe aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on.. I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos.
Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? You should see the room I have built for her. Plush pillows, scented candles, a restored antique vanity, and a mini fridge stocked with her favorite bottled water, Diet Coke, and cookie dough ice cream sandwiches in the freezer. She'll never want to leave. Reminds me of the guy with the girl in the basement vid from last week, but nicer
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:56:40 AM EDT
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Step your game up to 75 gr TULA "hollow point". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot 62 gr wolf out of my 10.5'' and 11.5''. Don't care about expansion blah blah blah - stand in front of it at 300 yards and lmk how it fares for ya. Step your game up to 75 gr TULA "hollow point". Tula is just about the only cartridge that I have problems with. Wolf is good to go. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:03:12 PM EDT
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Oh, but I did. And no one said that a short barreled AK is "ineffective". A crappy gun, sure, and that's true. 7.62 x 39 performs poorly in both gel and meat, producing mostly through and through holes with little or no additional tissue damage, yep, people said that, and both are true. But no one made the claim that they're ineffective. Either you have serious reading comprehension problems, or you set up the straw man (that people are saying that short AKs are ineffective) so you can knock it down, and therefore want to make your point in a dishonest way. If you have the truly terrible reading comprehension (giving you the benefit of the doubt), then perhaps you thought that these two were speaking seriously, and not loaded with huge amounts of sarcasm, which is what was actually happening. If you're saying that it IS effective, nothing else you said is relevant and you agree with me completely. Welcome to team AK SBR. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:04:23 PM EDT
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Reminds me of the guy with the girl in the basement vid from last week, but nicer
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The aspie crowd sees something that does not belong, and that's all they concentrate on.. I think we are all just waiting for the taser and duck tape to show up in the photos.
Who in their right mind would use those items on Tay Tay? You should see the room I have built for her. Plush pillows, scented candles, a restored antique vanity, and a mini fridge stocked with her favorite bottled water, Diet Coke, and cookie dough ice cream sandwiches in the freezer. She'll never want to leave. Reminds me of the guy with the girl in the basement vid from last week, but nicer
Thank you, I think. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:06:39 PM EDT
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Tula is just about the only cartridge that I have problems with. Wolf is good to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot 62 gr wolf out of my 10.5'' and 11.5''. Don't care about expansion blah blah blah - stand in front of it at 300 yards and lmk how it fares for ya. Step your game up to 75 gr TULA "hollow point". Tula is just about the only cartridge that I have problems with. Wolf is good to go. Huh. Zero issues here. (aside from standard Russki atrocious accuracy). |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:22:32 PM EDT
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This is a weird thread
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:26:07 PM EDT
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Jerry Tsai, a former editor of Recoil magazine wrote those words in the 4th issue. He was no longer the editor when the 5th issue came out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know that’s technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and that’s it. Serious? Jerry Tsai, a former editor of Recoil magazine wrote those words in the 4th issue. He was no longer the editor when the 5th issue came out. Party Pooper. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:26:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I am shopping for a PDW (or scuba gear, parachutes, etc.), "affordability" is not one of my prime considerations. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:27:57 PM EDT
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fucking gross, thanks for ruining my breakfast op! Thanks for saying this more elegantly than my planned "I'd rather be shot by any of that x39 shit than by fusion or gold dot out of any of those 5.56 sbr's"
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I have yet to see normal 7.62x39 expand, even from longer barrels. I've seen keyhole injuries, and some that are decades old that look just like a keyhole in paper. Crazy. It's one of the most survivable rifle cartridge injuries in the world because of projectile construction and lack of speed on impact. The BCs are so bad, by the time it's on target even at closer ranges common in contact, it doesn't do much other than penetrate and perforate through and through. The data in the OP about short barrels is false, especially for 11.5". 11.5" 5.56 velocity is impressive. 10.5" with Brown tip will smoke your bags. So will M855A1 from 10.5" guns. I believe it. Fackler did a lot of testing and concluded that, even when it yaws, x39 is kind of a shitty cart. If I had to choose my opponents rifle for a gunfight... AK vs AR... I'd want him to have an AK every single time. Thanks for saying this more elegantly than my planned "I'd rather be shot by any of that x39 shit than by fusion or gold dot out of any of those 5.56 sbr's"
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:28:49 PM EDT
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If you asked me which I'd rather have watching my back... a creepy celeb photo stalker or somebody who bought a Taylor Swift album... I'd have to give it some serious thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, the pics come with the album. If you asked me which I'd rather have watching my back... a creepy celeb photo stalker or somebody who bought a Taylor Swift album... I'd have to give it some serious thought. 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:32:11 PM EDT
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Huh... 1943 sent a telegram. Keep Combloc garbage round STOP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL 2007 called and wants its cartridge back Huh... 1943 sent a telegram. Keep Combloc garbage round STOP. That's funny, cause 1891 sent a guy on a horse saying something about 7.62x54r still being used in modern precision rifles and something about the age and political background of a round having nothing to do with its performance |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:32:22 PM EDT
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Range toy SBR: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dcloudy777/media/630cc93a-91fa-4962-aae4-3b3ddeae6ccf_zpsyafo8520.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/dcloudy777/630cc93a-91fa-4962-aae4-3b3ddeae6ccf_zpsyafo8520.jpg</a> Real SBR: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dcloudy777/media/370d894b-36f1-445e-a902-29416ec1ee7e_zps6zlx8h3j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/dcloudy777/370d894b-36f1-445e-a902-29416ec1ee7e_zps6zlx8h3j.jpg</a> Real PDW (.300BLK, not Combloc garbage round) <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dcloudy777/media/eb56de3a-8908-4457-b901-fe5a31d5277d_zpsidxo5vza.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/dcloudy777/eb56de3a-8908-4457-b901-fe5a31d5277d_zpsidxo5vza.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dcloudy777/media/1a2e5f37-4e17-415e-80c9-a04c25be9cfb_zpskestmtql.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/dcloudy777/1a2e5f37-4e17-415e-80c9-a04c25be9cfb_zpskestmtql.jpg</a> "Deep cover" PDW: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dcloudy777/media/2bee4150-c86a-43f1-a292-e3da5402f7a3_zpsoswytawv.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/dcloudy777/2bee4150-c86a-43f1-a292-e3da5402f7a3_zpsoswytawv.jpg</a> Jelly |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're saying that it IS effective, nothing else you said is relevant and you agree with me completely. Welcome to team AK SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh, but I did. And no one said that a short barreled AK is "ineffective". A crappy gun, sure, and that's true. 7.62 x 39 performs poorly in both gel and meat, producing mostly through and through holes with little or no additional tissue damage, yep, people said that, and both are true. But no one made the claim that they're ineffective. Either you have serious reading comprehension problems, or you set up the straw man (that people are saying that short AKs are ineffective) so you can knock it down, and therefore want to make your point in a dishonest way. If you have the truly terrible reading comprehension (giving you the benefit of the doubt), then perhaps you thought that these two were speaking seriously, and not loaded with huge amounts of sarcasm, which is what was actually happening. If you're saying that it IS effective, nothing else you said is relevant and you agree with me completely. Welcome to team AK SBR. Hell, it doesn't even mean "competitive". It just means that yes, you can shoot someone with it and stop them, which is a long way from it being the best, or even good, as a choice for PDW. So, no, I'm not on team AK SBR. The Draco and two actual SBR AKs I have (AK-104 clone and Krink) are range toys, and are way, way down the list if I have need to fight with a gun, because AKs are very outclassed by nearly every other semi-auto I have. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:09:00 PM EDT
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I've seen those TS photos in person
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