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I just go to my safe and grab something and do a mag dump off the back porch.
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It blows my mind people can't walk in/walk out with a gun.
With my FL CWP I bypass the 3 day waiting period on handguns, long guns are same day regardless. I've bought 4+ guns within a few days of each other. Murica. I feel bad for our brothers behind enemy lines. Now I feel bad walking into walmart and out with a case of 1,000 booolets of death. |
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I feel for you OP. I truly can't imagine living in a nanny state like NY.
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yes it can. Colorado. Maryland. Connecticut. New York. All those within the last year. 89 fed ban 94 fed ban brady bill 68 gun control act Don't think we've seen the end of it. |
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I have only been to both the state of New York and to Manhattan, once, so please forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but what part(s) of New York City does this encompass? And if you were a hunter, and wanted to own a rifle in the affected city(ies) limit(s), it is the same process?
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South Carolina? We're a signature away from expanding gun rights here, from a Governor who has already committed to signing the legislation (see SC Restaurant Carry). |
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yes it can. Colorado. Liberal hippy wasteland Maryland. Liberal hippy wasteland Connecticut. Liberal hippy wasteland New York. Liberal hippy wasteland All those within the last year. 89 fed ban 94 fed ban brady bill 68 gun control act Don't think we've seen the end of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. No. yes it can. Colorado. Liberal hippy wasteland Maryland. Liberal hippy wasteland Connecticut. Liberal hippy wasteland New York. Liberal hippy wasteland All those within the last year. 89 fed ban 94 fed ban brady bill 68 gun control act Don't think we've seen the end of it. Arizona is not a Liberal hippy wasteland. We have our share of Derp, but it's more of a libertarian/tin foil flavor. |
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You have to buy a new gun ? You can't transfer one you already own upstate into the city to be inspected ? That is an option, yes. Buy an new one (from upstate dealer, of course) just to give NYC an extra FU. |
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South Carolina? We're a signature away from expanding gun rights here, from a Governor who has already committed to signing the legislation (see SC Restaurant Carry). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. No. Colorado? South Carolina? We're a signature away from expanding gun rights here, from a Governor who has already committed to signing the legislation (see SC Restaurant Carry). I am not worried for now on the state level either, but those of us in what are safe states still need to worry about the federal level. They have passed numerous bans before, and it is only a matter of time until another gets through. Even with that, your state may be safe for now, but think 20 years down the road. You don't know. I'm sure Colorado didn't see their laws coming twenty years ago. |
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Arizona is not a Liberal hippy wasteland. We have our share of Derp, but it's more of a libertarian/tin foil flavor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. No. yes it can. Colorado. Liberal hippy wasteland Maryland. Liberal hippy wasteland Connecticut. Liberal hippy wasteland New York. Liberal hippy wasteland All those within the last year. 89 fed ban 94 fed ban brady bill 68 gun control act Don't think we've seen the end of it. Arizona is not a Liberal hippy wasteland. We have our share of Derp, but it's more of a libertarian/tin foil flavor. Colorado wasn't always a hippy wasteland. It was a red state not so long ago. |
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South Carolina? We're a signature away from expanding gun rights here, from a Governor who has already committed to signing the legislation (see SC Restaurant Carry). View Quote There are many states that are safe for a while but do not underestimate the extreme left. I know people who moved from Southern CA to Montana and fully intend to do their best to change the political landscape of the state. I was there from 2003-2011 and saw a lot of changes in that short time, even though it is still a red state, it is moving towards blue. They say are "pro-2nd amendment " because they hunt, but they are complete Fudds. People like them and the FSA breed more than we do and they have a long-term plan. |
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No one has a lifetime CCW license in NY anymore
edit guess that was covered
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OP, after reading your post in its entirety, and with prior historical research of the subject I have concluded that it was faster, easier and more likely for a Jew to lawfully obtain a firearm in Nazi Germany at the height of the Third Reich.
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Fuck that bullshit. If their goal is to discourage the "legal" ownership of firearms, then do it illegally. It is absolutely fucking absurd.
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Sell your apartment in Manhattan and retire somewhere warm......and free!
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I have only been to both the state of New York and to Manhattan, once, so please forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but what part(s) of New York City does this encompass? And if you were a hunter, and wanted to own a rifle in the affected city(ies) limit(s), it is the same process? Edit: For typos. View Quote NYC = 5 boroughs. And yes. Intended use doesn't matter. |
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Just another nail in the coffin of me never, ever stepping foot in that place. ever. fuck them
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Quoted: There are many states that are safe for a while but do not underestimate the extreme left. I know people who moved from Southern CA to Montana and fully intend to do their best to change the political landscape of the state. I was there from 2003-2011 and saw a lot of changes in that short time, even though it is still a red state, it is moving towards blue. They say are "pro-2nd amendment " because they hunt, but they are complete Fudds. People like them and the FSA breed more than we do and they have a long-term plan. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: South Carolina? We're a signature away from expanding gun rights here, from a Governor who has already committed to signing the legislation (see SC Restaurant Carry). There are many states that are safe for a while but do not underestimate the extreme left. I know people who moved from Southern CA to Montana and fully intend to do their best to change the political landscape of the state. I was there from 2003-2011 and saw a lot of changes in that short time, even though it is still a red state, it is moving towards blue. They say are "pro-2nd amendment " because they hunt, but they are complete Fudds. People like them and the FSA breed more than we do and they have a long-term plan. From my current vantage point, I choose stolid optimism, for I can see Fort Sumter on most days from my window. 'Tis a sight to see. |
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It blows my mind people can't walk in/walk out with a gun. With my FL CWP I bypass the 3 day waiting period on handguns, long guns are same day regardless. I've bought 4+ guns within a few days of each other. Murica. I feel bad for our brothers behind enemy lines. Now I feel bad walking into walmart and out with a case of 1,000 booolets of death. View Quote Yeah well it works both ways. None of my NYC friends can believe I can walk in/walk out with a gun... The problem is the system is setup to brainwash a certain set of values while criminalizing another set. From pre k on up, media, jobs etc....you only see it after you move away. |
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This thread makes me like my old Kentucky home even more, here anyone who can legally buy a firearm can go in to a gun store and walk out in 10-15 mins with their gun. The way it should be everywhere.
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Well kind of...it doesn't necessarily expire...you just have to send in the renewal letter every 5 years, or else it is revoked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it makes you feel any better, your lifetime CHL from upstate now expires every five years. Well kind of...it doesn't necessarily expire...you just have to send in the renewal letter every 5 years, or else it is revoked. That's some NYC logic right there... Good OP though. I knew it was bad, but DAMN! |
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Great post OP, I had my pistol permit interview with the NYPD downtown a month ago, and you're spot on with your description of the entire process!
Only difference in my experience is that I applied for both licenses at once in queens (they're much more pleasant to deal with out there) and that my interviewing officer was actually pretty nice. People who think California, Chicago, or even D.C. are the most anti-2A areas in the country have no idea what it means to be a gun owner in NYC. I don't think you mentioned that not a single online ammo store would ship to a NYC address even before the "safe" act, that the FFL fees within NYC are $50+, and that the average yearly range membership is $300-$500, sometimes plus a surcharge each time you drop by to use the facility. Oh, and the pistol you register in NYC can now never, ever leave the state. You can take it hunting with you within New York State as long as you travel with it unloaded and locked in a case, and can only load it while you're in the field. I was told straight up at 1 police plaza that you will be arrested if the NYPD catches you coming back from a range outside NYC even with your "hunter authorization card". Oh.... Also if you do decide to sell a firearm apparently you need to give the NYPD a pile of personal information about the individual you are selling it to. ETA: I'm a 5th generation New Yorker, my family literally helped build this city and many of them are still here. My family members have always owned guns and reject the current crop of New Yorkers. My mother said the basement of her building growing up used to be filled with .22 casings from her brothers and uncles using it as a shooting range. My uncle has his Brooklyn Basement set up for reloading. There are plenty of gun friendly New Yorkers here in NYC, we just get overshadowed and out shouted. Most of the worst offenders here are transplants, example: Bloomberg is from Boston. Even though it pains me and there are things I do still love about the city, I realize that the city is lost and it's time to go, and I have finally started looking into jobs out of state. |
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I just hugged everything in my safe.
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laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. No. ......and never. Herp and derp. Never say never. I hope to escape to AZ one day, it'd be nice if it was still in America when I get there. |
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TL/NC = Too long / not constitutional. Hmmm would New Yorkers sit idly by if these hoops were placed on free speech, religion, voting, abortions? I think not.
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TL/NC = Too long / not constitutional. Hmmm would New Yorkers sit idly by if these hoops were placed on free speech, religion, voting, abortions? I think not. FBHO FNYC View Quote lol The Constitution isn't followed anymore. It's just a silly piece of paper they want us to argue over so we stay distracted while they do whatever they want. |
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I literally just moved out of that god forsaken state as of yesterday. I'll donate to the nysrpa, but i'll no longer do business there. Fuck the nazis in albany.
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I had the rifle permit and the pistol target permit when I lived in NYC
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Well...6 months after applying...I have been approved for a NYC handgun license...valid ONLY for possession in the home, and for target shooting. Not for carry. I primarily live in upstate NY, where I have a lifetime CCW permit, and where I keep most of my guns...but I have an apartment in Manhattan that I use for work quite often...so I figured I would get permits to possess some guns there. What did it take to apply for a NYC handgun possession / target permit? First, fill out the application, get passport photos taken, and get all kinds of notarized forms together. Notarized leases, notarized utility bills, notarized disposition reports from ANY run in the law you have EVER had (even speeding tickets), notarized letters stating you know NYS laws regarding use of deadly force and handgun laws, a notarized letter stating that you give up ALL privacy rights to your medical records...even notarized letters from anyone you may live with saying they are OK with you owning a handgun in the home... Oh and a $340 fee to apply, plus $99 for fingerprinting. Non-refundable...even if you are denied. Oh and you have to renew your permit, and resubmit $340 every 3 years. Where does that money go you ask? Since they don't do any more extensive background checks for renewals? It goes RIGHT into the NYPD pension fund...NONE goes to fund the actual handgun license renewals. What could you be denied for? ANYTHING. Too many speeding tickets? Denied. Not currently employed? Denied. Have a disability like epilepsy, a missing finger, or take any anxiety medications? DENIED. Have tax problems? Denied. Child support problems? Denied. Don't show proper respect to the NYPD gun license clerks? Denied. Seriously. It is all typed up in their official rules. So anyway, once you get all the applications and forms together, you have to take a half day or full day off work to submit the application, and get fingerprinted. Then you wait. About 1-2 months for a letter, asking you to bring in MORE paperwork, and schedule a personal interview with the investigator. Now I have to get notarized pay stubs from my work, or letters of employment...W2s and tax returns from the past few years, AND 3 character reference letters, from 3 people that have known you for 5 years or more, and that live in NYC. Non family members. How many non-family people do you keep in touch with closely for over 5 years?? Not easy to find. The character reference letters must say that they approve of you owning a handgun, and that you aren't crazy. What happens if all the people you know are anti gun? Or if you don't have any close friends? DENIED. So after getting all these additional forms together from friends and work and your accountant...you have to go in for your interview. So you take yet another day off from work, go to 1 Police Plaza, and get interviewed by some low IQ liberal that doesn't speak proper English...and is only 1 step from being a full blown ghetto rat. Not kidding. Then you wait...and wait...and wait...about 5 months. Then one fine day, you get a letter saying you are approved. But wait - there is a catch...if you don't return to 1 Police Plaza within 30 days to physically pick up your handgun license, your license approval is cancelled and you have to start over from scratch. And pay again. So what if you are out of town or on a long work trip for 4 weeks? Denied. Start over. Sorry. So you have to take yet ANOTHER day off work to go to the NYPD, pick up your license, and get a "purchase authorization card" allowing you to buy a handgun. And again, YOU MUST BUY A HANDGUN WITHIN 30 DAYS of picking up your license...if you don't, your license is cancelled, and you start from scratch. So you have your little plastic card license...and you have to buy a handgun within 30 days. What if you can't currently afford a handgun at that time? Sorry. Buy one NOW or your license is revoked forever. What if you want to spend more than 30 days researching the best gun for you (since you were never able to even TOUCH a handgun in NY until you have a permit in your hands)...Sorry, buy a handgun NOW or you are denied. So you buy a handgun, either from an FFL, a family member with a NYS handgun license, an LEO, or another NYS resident with a handgun license (but you must now get a background check for private sales, unless it is immediate family). So you bought a gun and you take it home...FINALLY right? NOT SO FAST...NOW, within 72 hours of purchase, you have to take YET ANOTHER day off work, return to 1 Police Plaza, and present the gun for "inspection." Here, they make sure it is legal in NY and NYC, and that you have only mags that are 10 rounds or less. They record the serial numbers, and print out a new plastic card with the handgun listed on the back. Now you legally own the handgun. Finally. But don't take it out of your home, unless you are going DIRECTLY to and from a shooting range or DEC hunting area. Hell, the NYPD even had to give a special "amnesty" to NYC handgun owners when Hurricane Sandy hit, and some people had to evacuate...just so these people could "temporarily" relocate their handguns to a safe place. The long gun permit you ask? So I can possess rifles or shotguns? Pretty much the same process, except they don't make you bring the gun in for inspection. What guns can you own in NYC? Well if it is semi auto, it can't have ANY evil features. No pistol grip, bayo lug, tele stock...nothing. Oh and NO long guns can have a capacity of more than 5 rounds. No long gun mags can be over 5 rounds. Pretty much eliminating ALL long guns suitable for self defense, no?? Oh and you can only buy / register ONE gun every 90 days. So...I guess my question is... NRA / SAF / NYSRPA / SCOPE...where are you? Fighting the unSAFE act I suppose... But honestly, everyone in the US needs to focus on getting the courts to toss NYC gun laws...they are BY FAR the worst in the entire nation...and until these are tossed...laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. View Quote I would just move to a free state and tell the commies to kiss my arrss. |
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You have a Home in the state of NY.
You also have a apartment in NYC. Lets see, move to a Southern free state with cheaper living costs. Rent both of these 2 over priced home's out in NY. Live a better life, i know a few guys that rent home out in BIG city's and use the over priced rent to live like kings down here. Its not hard. |
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laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. No. ......and never. Herp and derp. Never say never. I hope to escape to AZ one day, it'd be nice if it was still in America when I get there. If you visualize Arizona turning into New York you should stay planted exactly where you are. |
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That is ludicrous!
Here is what I did today. I bought a handgun over the phone a couple weeks ago. I shipped it to a ffl my buddy uses. I walked in today. I paid them $10. They did my background. I walked out 10 minutes later. |
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You may want NY because you have to, but it does not want you.
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So... Um... OP, what did you buy?
Edit to add: this seems like a great excuse for a custom 1911 with serial number FUCUOMO or FUBLOOMY or FUDEBLASIO or something similar.... |
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I'm curious, OP . . . what is it you do? What's really keeping you there?
A business upstate and in the city, you say. What says it has to be located in NY/NYC? It sounds to me like you've got the means to split anytime you want to. Folks with far less have done it. I guess it all comes down to whether, to you, your money or your rights are more important. Which is it? All that cash you're making worth it to abandon your principles? After all, by staying - and allowing your tax dollars to be used against folks like us . . . seems to me that question needs to be asked (of yourself). No offense, but I hope you don't have kids - cuz they're being brainwashed as I'm typing this! Your presence in their lives is no counter to the pressures and influences they're encountering everyday and, odds are, it'll be too late for them when you do decide to take yourself, your family, your business and your money out of that cesspool. They'll be modern NY'rs, through and through and that family tradition you speak of will be gone forever. ETA: and influences |
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My Mom lives in upstate NY. After her husband died she wanted a handgun for in-home defense.
She started into the process and decided it was too much hassle, so a couple of my brothers took her shopping for a shotgun. Dang, I like living in a free state. |
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So...I guess my question is... NRA / SAF / NYSRPA / SCOPE...where are you? Fighting the unSAFE act I suppose... View Quote They're already trying to get a case before the Supreme Court regarding handgun fees: Kwong v Bloomberg Kharn |
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Meh just move from NY... I did over 10 years ago. I can buy a crate full of hand guns if I wanted to now and my conceal permit took a week to get and cost $50.
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That is simply ludicrous. If you still can't carry in NYC, I wouldn't fuck with a handgun permit. Get a 12 gauge pump for HD and be done with it.
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That is simply ludicrous. If you still can't carry in NYC, I wouldn't fuck with a handgun permit. Get a 12 gauge pump for HD and be done with it. View Quote Hard to argue with this. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if 00/000 buckshot considered to be "of unusual lethality" or some shit! FNY. FNYC. FBHO. |
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Well...6 months after applying...I have been approved for a NYC handgun license...valid ONLY for possession in the home, and for target shooting. Not for carry. I primarily live in upstate NY, where I have a lifetime CCW permit, and where I keep most of my guns...but I have an apartment in Manhattan that I use for work quite often...so I figured I would get permits to possess some guns there. What did it take to apply for a NYC handgun possession / target permit? First, fill out the application, get passport photos taken, and get all kinds of notarized forms together. Notarized leases, notarized utility bills, notarized disposition reports from ANY run in the law you have EVER had (even speeding tickets), notarized letters stating you know NYS laws regarding use of deadly force and handgun laws, a notarized letter stating that you give up ALL privacy rights to your medical records...even notarized letters from anyone you may live with saying they are OK with you owning a handgun in the home... Oh and a $340 fee to apply, plus $99 for fingerprinting. Non-refundable...even if you are denied. Oh and you have to renew your permit, and resubmit $340 every 3 years. Where does that money go you ask? Since they don't do any more extensive background checks for renewals? It goes RIGHT into the NYPD pension fund...NONE goes to fund the actual handgun license renewals. What could you be denied for? ANYTHING. Too many speeding tickets? Denied. Not currently employed? Denied. Have a disability like epilepsy, a missing finger, or take any anxiety medications? DENIED. Have tax problems? Denied. Child support problems? Denied. Don't show proper respect to the NYPD gun license clerks? Denied. Seriously. It is all typed up in their official rules. So anyway, once you get all the applications and forms together, you have to take a half day or full day off work to submit the application, and get fingerprinted. Then you wait. About 1-2 months for a letter, asking you to bring in MORE paperwork, and schedule a personal interview with the investigator. Now I have to get notarized pay stubs from my work, or letters of employment...W2s and tax returns from the past few years, AND 3 character reference letters, from 3 people that have known you for 5 years or more, and that live in NYC. Non family members. How many non-family people do you keep in touch with closely for over 5 years?? Not easy to find. The character reference letters must say that they approve of you owning a handgun, and that you aren't crazy. What happens if all the people you know are anti gun? Or if you don't have any close friends? DENIED. So after getting all these additional forms together from friends and work and your accountant...you have to go in for your interview. So you take yet another day off from work, go to 1 Police Plaza, and get interviewed by some low IQ liberal that doesn't speak proper English...and is only 1 step from being a full blown ghetto rat. Not kidding. Then you wait...and wait...and wait...about 5 months. Then one fine day, you get a letter saying you are approved. But wait - there is a catch...if you don't return to 1 Police Plaza within 30 days to physically pick up your handgun license, your license approval is cancelled and you have to start over from scratch. And pay again. So what if you are out of town or on a long work trip for 4 weeks? Denied. Start over. Sorry. So you have to take yet ANOTHER day off work to go to the NYPD, pick up your license, and get a "purchase authorization card" allowing you to buy a handgun. And again, YOU MUST BUY A HANDGUN WITHIN 30 DAYS of picking up your license...if you don't, your license is cancelled, and you start from scratch. So you have your little plastic card license...and you have to buy a handgun within 30 days. What if you can't currently afford a handgun at that time? Sorry. Buy one NOW or your license is revoked forever. What if you want to spend more than 30 days researching the best gun for you (since you were never able to even TOUCH a handgun in NY until you have a permit in your hands)...Sorry, buy a handgun NOW or you are denied. So you buy a handgun, either from an FFL, a family member with a NYS handgun license, an LEO, or another NYS resident with a handgun license (but you must now get a background check for private sales, unless it is immediate family). So you bought a gun and you take it home...FINALLY right? NOT SO FAST...NOW, within 72 hours of purchase, you have to take YET ANOTHER day off work, return to 1 Police Plaza, and present the gun for "inspection." Here, they make sure it is legal in NY and NYC, and that you have only mags that are 10 rounds or less. They record the serial numbers, and print out a new plastic card with the handgun listed on the back. Now you legally own the handgun. Finally. But don't take it out of your home, unless you are going DIRECTLY to and from a shooting range or DEC hunting area. Hell, the NYPD even had to give a special "amnesty" to NYC handgun owners when Hurricane Sandy hit, and some people had to evacuate...just so these people could "temporarily" relocate their handguns to a safe place. The long gun permit you ask? So I can possess rifles or shotguns? Pretty much the same process, except they don't make you bring the gun in for inspection. What guns can you own in NYC? Well if it is semi auto, it can't have ANY evil features. No pistol grip, bayo lug, tele stock...nothing. Oh and NO long guns can have a capacity of more than 5 rounds. No long gun mags can be over 5 rounds. Pretty much eliminating ALL long guns suitable for self defense, no?? Oh and you can only buy / register ONE gun every 90 days. So...I guess my question is... NRA / SAF / NYSRPA / SCOPE...where are you? Fighting the unSAFE act I suppose... But honestly, everyone in the US needs to focus on getting the courts to toss NYC gun laws...they are BY FAR the worst in the entire nation...and until these are tossed...laws like this can and WILL spread to "free" states. View Quote Shit man, come on down to Georgia or any other free state where you can buy a machine gun for a lot less hassle. |
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Nice job. Nice write-up. Way to go. I love it. You navigated their waters with deft speed and accuracy. Curiosity - what if you're unemployed because you're independently wealthy? Go/NoGo? They would force you to prove that you have "sufficient" money in your accounts to "support yourself." What is sufficient? Who knows. Up to them. That sounds like grounds for a discrimination case. I thought libs loved the poor. |
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I honestly don't understand willful compliance of this shit. Not EVER.
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