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The Crown was so innocent ... Sorry, couldn't keep out. |
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Which IRA? Micheal Collin's IRA? The Post Irish Free State IRA or the Provos? Lots of groups have claimed the mantle of the IRA? It goes back to the Fenians in hte 1870's according to some.
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Micheal Collins' IRA was the best IRA, according to the movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117039/ |
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Hell, even Paul McCartney sang, "Give Ireland back to the Irish."
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Educate me. Tell me about the millions we sent to death squads in El Salvador. View Quote This unit was trained by SF and 82nd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion |
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The U.S. must've sent a lot of money, since their currency is the US Dollar. This unit was trained by SF and 82nd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Educate me. Tell me about the millions we sent to death squads in El Salvador. This unit was trained by SF and 82nd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion |
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At about 20 civilian deaths per year they werent exactly running up a huge death toll. Thats Friday night numbers in the Windy City.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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A bunch of commie assholes who liked targeting innocent people. They were terrorists before it was cool.
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Sigh..., The Crown was so innocent ... Sorry, couldn't keep out. View Quote People are right when they say a large number of civilians were killed, more than double the number of either the militants or the UK security forces killed actually. |
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Seemed inept to me. I think they are known for their failures than successes - they were/are the Evil Knievels of the terrorist world. https://img.memecdn.com/i-wish-i-had-a-ira-bf_c_7171808.jpg View Quote |
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The U.S. must've sent a lot of money, since their currency is the US Dollar. This unit was trained by SF and 82nd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion View Quote Probably folks who were supported by the "freedom loving peoples" that made the rifles in this photograph. Can't blame American gun stores for this one. |
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The modern iterations, 1960s onward, are marxist shitstains funded by the likes of Quadaffi and Brezhnev.
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Well the Crown did bring about the IRA and Loyalists did start the shit in '69 that brought about the Provo and INLA. People are right when they say a large number of civilians were killed, more than double the number of either the militants or the UK security forces killed actually. View Quote |
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As opposed to the jihadi Taliban scum AMERICAN tax dollars funded in the mid 80s? Which was about the same time we were supplying weapons to our good friends in Iran and intelligence to Saddam? Which was about the same time we were funding Salvadoran death squads.... Context is somewhat important. View Quote The taliban didn't exist in the 80s. Communism was the greater threats |
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Fuck the British army. Up the RA View Quote Failed To Load Title |
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The U.S. must've sent a lot of money, since their currency is the US Dollar. This unit was trained by SF and 82nd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion View Quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion You can believe the Truth Commission report or not but most observers agree that the American trained and funded Atlacatl Battallion murdered hundreds of their countrymen including men, women and children. |
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90% of their funding came from the USSR, the other 10% from the U.S., through various groups.
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Well the Crown did bring about the IRA and Loyalists did start the shit in '69 that brought about the Provo and INLA. People are right when they say a large number of civilians were killed, more than double the number of either the militants or the UK security forces killed actually. View Quote |
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"In the early 1990s, the Commission on the Truth for El Salvador (UNTC) investigated war crimes during the civil war. Their report concludes that the Battalion was responsible for the El Mozote massacre, the El Calabozo massacre, and the murder of six Jesuit priests. The Battalion was also implicated in the killing of "some 50 civilians on the banks of the Guaslinga river".[4] Human Rights Watch linked Atlacatl to additional massacres not cited in the UNTC report: dozens killed in Tenancingo and Copapayo in 1983, 68 in Los Llanitos, and three separate killings in 1989" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion You can believe the Truth Commission report or not but most observers agree that the American trained and funded Atlacatl Battallion murdered hundreds of their countrymen including men, women and children. View Quote I'm already familiar with Atlacatl. |
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"In the early 1990s, the Commission on the Truth for El Salvador (UNTC) investigated war crimes during the civil war. Their report concludes that the Battalion was responsible for the El Mozote massacre, the El Calabozo massacre, and the murder of six Jesuit priests. The Battalion was also implicated in the killing of "some 50 civilians on the banks of the Guaslinga river".[4] Human Rights Watch linked Atlacatl to additional massacres not cited in the UNTC report: dozens killed in Tenancingo and Copapayo in 1983, 68 in Los Llanitos, and three separate killings in 1989" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlacatl_Battalion You can believe the Truth Commission report or not but most observers agree that the American trained and funded Atlacatl Battallion murdered hundreds of their countrymen including men, women and children. View Quote That "American trained and funded" unit was fighting people who carried AK-47s. Weren't no imports from Century back then, especially with 3 selector positions. Dead commies are good commies. |
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And who were they fighting? Probably folks who were supported by the "freedom loving peoples" that made the rifles in this photograph. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
And who were they fighting? Probably folks who were supported by the "freedom loving peoples" that made the rifles in this photograph. Looks like the 2 most common weapons in that conflict were AKMs and M16A1s, used by both sides. The full-fledged civil war lasted for more than 12 years and saw extreme violence from both sides. It also included the deliberate terrorizing and targeting of civilians by death squads, recruitment of child soldiers and other violations of human rights, mostly by the military. An unknown number of people disappeared during the conflict, and the UN reports that more than 75,000 were killed. The United States contributed to the conflict by providing large amounts of military aid to the government of El Salvador during the Carter and Reagan administrations. |
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Check my post above. That "American trained and funded" unit was fighting people who carried AK-47s. Weren't no imports from Century back then, especially with 3 selector positions. Dead commies are good commies. View Quote |
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This 110% View Quote Realize that when you're white and don't like the Brits and you're located in Ireland you're sort of limited to who you can be allied with. So who hates the Brits and the west? Those whacky Soviets and their sympathizers and those whacky dictators in the middle East but Lybia in Africa was quite sympathetic for various reasons. The only other supporters are Irish heritage folks in the US who can be convinced that sending money and guns to fight for Irish independence is a good idea. |
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Depends on which IRA you are talking about. The Provos killed less than 2,000 between their founding in 1969 and their disarmament in 1997, 1,100 of those were soldiers or security personnel. They killed less than 700 civilians, many of whom were associated with militias, the government etc...not exactly "blameless" in the whole affair. That hardly makes them blood thirsty terrorists who murdered civilians at every opportunity. If that were actually the case, the body count is pretty damn small, it doesn't compute.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well the Crown did bring about the IRA and Loyalists did start the shit in '69 that brought about the Provo and INLA. People are right when they say a large number of civilians were killed, more than double the number of either the militants or the UK security forces killed actually. |
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Now you're stepping on your own ovaries. View Quote |
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No, you're the one that said context means nothing. Dirty terrorists are terrorists, forever and always and it's ok to send money to murder children in El Salvador but not in Northern Ireland. Either both are ok or neither are, or maybe context does matter? View Quote |
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Might as well also throw this out there regarding the Brits treatment of some Irish prisoners: The five techniques
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Provide proof that the US funded the communist IRA. View Quote It wasn't the US government, but there was financial aid collected from the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORAID |
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War is the same thing as murdering women and children? Show me where in US Military Doctrine that's an acceptable strategy. View Quote However, I'd certainly think that at this point, the GWOT would've been better fought if we'd treated Iraqi and Afghani cities like Dresden. |
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How many civillian deaths would it take to change your mind? What exact number would it be before it became wrong? View Quote |
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