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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:10:26 AM EDT
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The size of a P90 with the capacity of an FN five seven?
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Seriously.  This product makes no sense.

Besides, I already put money towards a PSA AR-V build and I've got these.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:17:30 AM EDT
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The PDW that I need is an HK MP7
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Yep
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:18:05 AM EDT
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Here is the pdw you need.

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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:19:38 AM EDT
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Meanwhile in Keltec land...

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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:27:45 AM EDT
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^ I'm reviewing that one next. :) Seems to be a lot of hate, but we gave it an honest review.  :)
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:29:45 AM EDT
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"mom can we get a new PDW?"

"No we have a PDW at home"

The PDW at home

http://www.kaliberinfo.hu/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/dbx-57x28jpg-800x445.jpg
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Is there enough room to grab the charging handle if you have an optic/mount that sits wider than the rail?

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:32:55 AM EDT
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Is there enough room to grab the charging handle if you have an optic/mount that sits wider than the rail?

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It sticks out a good ways. You can also flip it to make it angle up or downwards. I feel an aftermarket company could easily make a new CH for it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:33:29 AM EDT
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Not a fan of the round, And this design actually looks a little bulky for what it is.  But if it really does weigh just 3 pounds (and actually works), that's a pretty impressive design/engineering achievement.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:34:22 AM EDT
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I own a PMR-30 and CMR-30, and in terms of cheap those two fit that nicely, and this certainly doesn't feel cheap :D
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Pass....

The weight seems nice, but I wonder if it feels cheap?

I once watched a boxing documentary where a very wise Russia describing a revolver said "Heavy is good.  Heavy is reliable.  If it doesn't work you could always hit him with it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0MB7pJtKs
I own a PMR-30 and CMR-30, and in terms of cheap those two fit that nicely, and this certainly doesn't feel cheap :D

That Kel Tec P50 in 5.7 that runs P90 mags *should* end up dominating the home defense market.

"Should" meaning "logically."
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:34:38 AM EDT
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That's not a 2-handed battle axe!
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:35:46 AM EDT
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The primary benefit to a PDW over a handgun is that it is full-auto with a high cyclic rate.
Otherwise just get an extendo for your Glock.
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I'd say a stock and a forearm/grip are pretty big benefits as well.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:17 AM EDT
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^ I'm reviewing that one next. :) Seems to be a lot of hate, but we gave it an honest review.  :)
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^ I'm reviewing that one next. :) Seems to be a lot of hate, but we gave it an honest review.  :)

Odd reloads aside, I'm curious how the final "brace" adapter is gonna look.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:06:27 AM EDT
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Diamondback and then a KT, next thing you know it'll be fine knives from the BudK collection (wait, I think the penguin already covers that department).  
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:30:12 AM EDT
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The CMMG 5.7 upper on a SBR lower is all the PDW that I need.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:36:01 AM EDT
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The primary benefit to a PDW over a handgun is that it is full-auto with a high cyclic rate.
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Primary benefit is it has a stock, and a place for a real optic & your off hand.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:09:46 PM EDT
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Nice
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:16:05 PM EDT
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Can’t find any 5.7 ammo for the gun I have already
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Looks cool, but this. Quick ammoseek search reflects $2 per. The 10.5 AR will have to do.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:31:39 PM EDT
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I don't need any PDW I can't get ammo for.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:34:30 PM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 8:46:09 PM EDT
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Why do you say "five seven by twenty eight"  

Everyone who knows that "five seven" really means five point seven is going to also know it's x28.

If you are unexposed to the cartridge to the degree you don't know it's x28, then you now have just been told it's 57x28mm
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 8:47:20 PM EDT
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If that was true then Hi-Point would be king.
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Pass....

The weight seems nice, but I wonder if it feels cheap?

I once watched a boxing documentary where a very wise Russia describing a revolver said "Heavy is good.  Heavy is reliable.  If it doesn't work you could always hit him with it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0MB7pJtKs


If that was true then Hi-Point would be king.

If you said 'pick a gun to use to hit people with' Hi-Point would rank near the top of that list.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:08:59 PM EDT
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Why do you say "five seven by twenty eight"  

Everyone who knows that "five seven" really means five point seven is going to also know it's x28.

If you are unexposed to the cartridge to the degree you don't know it's x28, then you now have just been told it's 57x28mm
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Habit? I tend to get asked a lot if I show someone my fiveseven pistol, what round it's chambered in, and if I just say "5.7" they'll ask for the full designation.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 4:19:25 AM EDT
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Seriously.  This product makes no sense.

Besides, I already put money towards a PSA AR-V build and I've got these.

https://live.staticflickr.com/910/28061796268_e4887c7823_k.jpg
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The size of a P90 with the capacity of an FN five seven?


Seriously.  This product makes no sense.

Besides, I already put money towards a PSA AR-V build and I've got these.

https://live.staticflickr.com/910/28061796268_e4887c7823_k.jpg
I would have sex with that.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 4:29:56 AM EDT
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5.7. Hard pass.
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It's apparently almost impossible to reload.

That's a deal killer in this day and age.

If they made it in 7.62 Tok I would be very interested.

Link Posted: 1/28/2021 4:35:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/28/2021 4:57:05 AM EDT
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What is that optic?
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Aimpoint micro in what looks like a VFC sunshade mount
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 5:34:18 AM EDT
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Looks like a stribog.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 6:40:06 AM EDT
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The PDW that I need is an HK MP7
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Link Posted: 1/28/2021 11:40:18 PM EDT
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It's apparently almost impossible to reload.

That's a deal killer in this day and age.

If they made it in 7.62 Tok I would be very interested.

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It's like loading 5.56. Just be careful on the charge weight accuracy. WASH, not Tumble the brass. 4-6 loadings per case.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 12:07:22 AM EDT
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5.7. Hard pass.
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Yeah, looks like it's basically a Rattler form-factor.  Why not just go with a Rattler and the much better 300 BLK cartridge?
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 12:28:45 AM EDT
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Yeah, looks like it's basically a Rattler form-factor.  Why not just go with a Rattler and the much better 300 BLK cartridge?
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Because it’s a Sig product...
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:41:05 AM EDT
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Just remember who the owner of diamond back firearms voted for.
I do and they will not get my money.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:44:57 AM EDT
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No full auto no care.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 10:01:01 AM EDT
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Well, this is the PDW I have, so....

Link Posted: 1/29/2021 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Can’t find any 5.7 ammo for the gun I have already
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Yeah real talk though this is probably the worst time in history to release a new 5.7 gun. Which sucks because the world needs more 5.7 guns.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 12:09:09 PM EDT
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Because it’s a Sig product...
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You think Diamondback, the home of mediocre 9mm pistols, is better than Sig?
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 12:11:21 PM EDT
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You think Diamondback, the home of mediocre 9mm pistols, is better than Sig?
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Where or when did I ever claim that?
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:05:07 PM EDT
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The PDW that I need is an HK MP7
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Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:50:03 PM EDT
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You think Diamondback, the home of mediocre 9mm pistols, is better than Sig?
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Mediocre?

You really wish to give them that much credit?
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:51:49 PM EDT
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Ton of links in the OP, not one of them to plentiful ammo supply.  WIN!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 1:53:07 PM EDT
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same.   wish someone will fix the trigger. A 5lb trigger would be amazing.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 7:30:40 PM EDT
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same.   wish someone will fix the trigger. A 5lb trigger would be amazing.
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And a replaceable or reinforced stock hinge...  I’ve seen two broken stocks and one broken hinge.
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