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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:27:08 PM EDT
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I'm at the point where I've kept all of my gains and just added back my 5-10 pounds of chubb. I used to think my body was a nightmare but honestly I put on muscle very quickly and I don't lose it despite sitting on my ass. Only thing that happens is my gut shows back up and my tits go soft.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:28:04 PM EDT
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I've been a full blown meat neck before and I won't do it again. Good for throwing around a shit ton of iron but that's about it.
The happy medium is where it's at.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:28:22 PM EDT
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Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. - Mark Rippetoe
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:29:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:29:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:34:26 PM EDT
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I'm a skinny guy as is but in last 6 weeks from being laid off from work, I have lost 20 lbs from not working hard and being hungry very much. What is the best type of program to do at home with limited equipment and lack of a full fridge? I do tree work so its strength training and cardio everyday..
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:38:06 PM EDT
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I'm lifting a couple times a week and doing 1 hour 600 calorie burn sessions on my exercise bike twice a week on off days. When I lift I'm doing low rep 6-8 sets to failure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lots of conflicting opinions in this thread. Do you even lift.. Bros not really. what pretty much everyone has said is that it's not something to concern yourself about, unless 1: you're trying to lift in order to look pretty instead of get stronger and be healthy, or 2: your idea of cardio is running a marathon. do cardio. I'm lifting a couple times a week and doing 1 hour 600 calorie burn sessions on my exercise bike twice a week on off days. When I lift I'm doing low rep 6-8 sets to failure. 600 calories = a cheeseburger. i think your gains are safe. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:56:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow. just wow. the following is what you should have learned in high school: physical exertion requires energy, which is measured in calories. calories are present in food, and enter the body through eating and digestion. if you are exerting so much energy that your food intake does not provide enough calories, your body goes to its backup source--calories stored in fat. if you aren;t getting enough food, and have no fat, your body turns to its backup backup source--burning muscle. so unless you are exerting a tremendous amount of energy, eating poorly, and are already so shredded that your body has practically no fat to burn (say, under 4%), you aren't going to be burning muscle. this ignores the ambiguity of "muscle gain", which can imply either size or strength. the latter should be of primary concern, and is not going to be jeopardized by cardio unless you're basically starving. seriously man--it's about health, not glamor. I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. I guess that's got more to do with nutrition than cardio, though, so I'll shut up now. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 5:04:12 PM EDT
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This last year I went from 253 to 225 playing adult dodgeball for 3 to 4 hours straight every Tuesday night. I started running back in September and didn't see a damn change and actually gained weight. 2-3 miles a night either as constant pace or circuits. Now I lift three times a week power lifting. I still play dodgeball and run the same nights I lift. I weighed 241 last night. I'm 6'4" 32 years old.
I eat nothing but healthy food, no soda, no alcohol, try to keep my protein intake at 150 to 200 grams. I can Out play the 18 year olds on Tuesday and have extremely good energy.. I'm a good athletic build, getting real close to a realistic capt. America according to my girlfriend. 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 5:21:51 PM EDT
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I don't sweat my muscles cry.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 5:38:17 PM EDT
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Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. - Mark Rippetoe Interesting. That is posted in his gym.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:17:10 PM EDT
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I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. I guess that's got more to do with nutrition than cardio, though, so I'll shut up now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wow. just wow. the following is what you should have learned in high school: physical exertion requires energy, which is measured in calories. calories are present in food, and enter the body through eating and digestion. if you are exerting so much energy that your food intake does not provide enough calories, your body goes to its backup source--calories stored in fat. if you aren;t getting enough food, and have no fat, your body turns to its backup backup source--burning muscle. so unless you are exerting a tremendous amount of energy, eating poorly, and are already so shredded that your body has practically no fat to burn (say, under 4%), you aren't going to be burning muscle. this ignores the ambiguity of "muscle gain", which can imply either size or strength. the latter should be of primary concern, and is not going to be jeopardized by cardio unless you're basically starving. seriously man--it's about health, not glamor. I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. I guess that's got more to do with nutrition than cardio, though, so I'll shut up now. mine was the jock version--i'm not a nutritionerd. 
seriously though, for practical fitness, the possibility of very minor mass loss is vastly outweighed by the health dividends of cardio. for just about anyone outside of competitive bodybuilding, it's a trivial issue. if a guy is so obsessed with getting swoll that he is willing to damage his body, he might as well be juicing. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: mine was the jock version--i'm not a nutritionerd. seriously though, for practical fitness, the possibility of very minor mass loss is vastly outweighed by the health dividends of cardio. for just about anyone outside of competitive bodybuilding, it's a trivial issue. if a guy is so obsessed with getting swoll that he is willing to damage his body, he might as well be juicing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: wow. just wow. the following is what you should have learned in high school: physical exertion requires energy, which is measured in calories. calories are present in food, and enter the body through eating and digestion. if you are exerting so much energy that your food intake does not provide enough calories, your body goes to its backup source--calories stored in fat. if you aren;t getting enough food, and have no fat, your body turns to its backup backup source--burning muscle. so unless you are exerting a tremendous amount of energy, eating poorly, and are already so shredded that your body has practically no fat to burn (say, under 4%), you aren't going to be burning muscle. this ignores the ambiguity of "muscle gain", which can imply either size or strength. the latter should be of primary concern, and is not going to be jeopardized by cardio unless you're basically starving. seriously man--it's about health, not glamor. I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. I guess that's got more to do with nutrition than cardio, though, so I'll shut up now. mine was the jock version--i'm not a nutritionerd. seriously though, for practical fitness, the possibility of very minor mass loss is vastly outweighed by the health dividends of cardio. for just about anyone outside of competitive bodybuilding, it's a trivial issue. if a guy is so obsessed with getting swoll that he is willing to damage his body, he might as well be juicing. Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. Cardio might have some small effect on "muh gainz", but it has tons of other health benefits at the same time.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:48:55 PM EDT
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Fitness requires 4 things. Endurance Strength Speed The ability to recover. Flexibility Balance Explosiveness Agility |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:53:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:59:10 PM EDT
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If you lift enough, you don't need cardio ,,,,,,, because you don't hav to run from nuffin
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:59:32 PM EDT
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I'm a skinny guy as is but in last 6 weeks from being laid off from work, I have lost 20 lbs from not working hard and being hungry very much. What is the best type of program to do at home with limited equipment and lack of a full fridge? I do tree work so its strength training and cardio everyday.. This might intrest you. I posted looking for a poor mans dumbbell workout program. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:03:06 PM EDT
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I lift twice a week right now and do very little cardio. 6'2", medium slim and muscular build, currently 210lbs.
I did spend a whole summer two years ago lifting 3X a week and taking Krav Maga 2X a week while sticking to a 1400 calorie diet along with protein supplements. I got pretty cut and had a really hard time keeping the muscle I had built up, the smoke sessions and repeated max output striking etc. really burn you up. Going to start Krav again in a month or so and add in another day of lifting, but I think I need to research diet so that once I lose my current fat padding, I can keep my gains and maybe still put on some more mass and strength. My typical diet is oatmeal or two scrambled eggs with salsa for breakfast. Lunch is generally a cheeseburger Dinner is usually two servings of some sort of lean meat (fish, chicken, pork, or beef), a vegetable, and a potato. I use Creatine supplement prior to working out for a carb and recovery boost. I also drink a 20g protein shake after each workout. Anyone with more knowledge than myself have any diet hints or resources to share? |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:08:33 PM EDT
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What do you do for exercise?
I lift weights. What about cardio? I lift weights faster. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:12:19 PM EDT
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As others have said, unless you have no fat, don't eat enough and are training for a marathon or something it's not really something you need to be worried about. I was a swimmer in high school, and pretty much did't have any fat at all (like many high school athletes). Our hell week was the week before thanksgiving, and every day for a week we would have to swim 10,000 yards in two hours. My friends and I lost pretty much all body fat by Tuesday, and the rest of the week we were burning pure muscle seemingly despite eating at much food as we could physically consume. At the end of the week, we were always about 10 lbs lighter than when we started. Now, I do crossfit and don't worry about such things.  People can say what they want, but it works.  .
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:17:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis guy needs to find a bar and a squat rack and start squatting and deadlifting RIGHT NOW! |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:18:53 PM EDT
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I've read a few articles that say doing cardio will ruin your muscle gains from strength training by burning your muscles off. Discuss. I have the answer.... CrossFit!
No seriously, it DOES work if you go to a good CF gym and watch your diet. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:26:26 PM EDT
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HIIT training is the best way to either keep/add muscle while having a cardio program, or for when you want to cut. HIIT works wonders for me when I go into a cut phase every spring snd summer. http://i.imgur.com/GAGfPkt.jpg I remind my cousin of this every chance I get. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:26:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:47:14 PM EDT
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As others have said, unless you have no fat, don't eat enough and are training for a marathon or something it's not really something you need to be worried about. I was a swimmer in high school, and pretty much did't have any fat at all (like many high school athletes). Our hell week was the week before thanksgiving, and every day for a week we would have to swim 10,000 yards in two hours. My friends and I lost pretty much all body fat by Tuesday, and the rest of the week we were burning pure muscle seemingly despite eating at much food as we could physically consume. At the end of the week, we were always about 10 lbs lighter than when we started. Now, I do crossfit and don't worry about such things. A good read on t-nation about crossfit Disclaimer: never done crossfit in my life and like to mock the kipping as much as anyone else. But crossfit looks like real work, and fuck that. I'd rather just throw weight around the gym.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:56:54 PM EDT
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I get plenty of 'cardio' on leg day.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:58:26 PM EDT
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Do you even Fitness subforum bro?
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Posted: 1/17/2015 8:07:52 PM EDT
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I'm a skinny guy as is but in last 6 weeks from being laid off from work, I have lost 20 lbs from not working hard and being hungry very much. What is the best type of program to do at home with limited equipment and lack of a full fridge? I do tree work so its strength training and cardio everyday.. This might intrest you. I posted looking for a poor mans dumbbell workout program. Thanks bud, I have a few dumbbells and a bar with 100 lbs...i need to bulk back up but it is near impossible with my metabolism... |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 9:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks bud, I have a few dumbbells and a bar with 100 lbs...i need to bulk back up but it is near impossible with my metabolism... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm a skinny guy as is but in last 6 weeks from being laid off from work, I have lost 20 lbs from not working hard and being hungry very much. What is the best type of program to do at home with limited equipment and lack of a full fridge? I do tree work so its strength training and cardio everyday.. This might intrest you. I posted looking for a poor mans dumbbell workout program. Thanks bud, I have a few dumbbells and a bar with 100 lbs...i need to bulk back up but it is near impossible with my metabolism... |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:42:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:54:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it's not. Eat more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm a skinny guy as is but in last 6 weeks from being laid off from work, I have lost 20 lbs from not working hard and being hungry very much. What is the best type of program to do at home with limited equipment and lack of a full fridge? I do tree work so its strength training and cardio everyday.. This might intrest you. I posted looking for a poor mans dumbbell workout program. Thanks bud, I have a few dumbbells and a bar with 100 lbs...i need to bulk back up but it is near impossible with my metabolism... This. You also need to meet your macro nutrient needs or you will just be spinning your wheels at some point.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:00:25 AM EDT
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As others have said, unless you have no fat, don't eat enough and are training for a marathon or something it's not really something you need to be worried about. I was a swimmer in high school, and pretty much did't have any fat at all (like many high school athletes). Our hell week was the week before thanksgiving, and every day for a week we would have to swim 10,000 yards in two hours. My friends and I lost pretty much all body fat by Tuesday, and the rest of the week we were burning pure muscle seemingly despite eating at much food as we could physically consume. At the end of the week, we were always about 10 lbs lighter than when we started. Now, I do crossfit and don't worry about such things. People can say what they want, but it works. .http://broscience.co/horrible-deadlifts-crossfit-games/ Watching cross fitters attempt to deadlift is the funniest fucking thing on the planet. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:00:51 AM EDT
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dam... I may start doing cardio 4 times a week... I'll do it
When I get an idea in my head nothing stops me. I just want to be in perfect shape... like spider man! I'm 6-3" and 209 lbs. I've been working out regularly for 4 months now and dieting for 7 so I'm serious about results. I was into body building in my early to mid 20's so I'm waiting for that muscle memory to kick in.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:04:25 AM EDT
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Sprints. Interval training.
Longer runs at low and moderate heart rate change the metabolism, increase stress hormones. The newest research on athletes and ketosis-- this is where it's at. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:08:17 AM EDT
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Excelling at both is hard for most people to do. Pick the one that meets your main goals and make it your priority, with out leaving the other one out.
I need to do some cardio myself
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:10:32 AM EDT
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Excelling at both is hard for most people to do. Pick the one that meets your main goals and make it your priority, with out leaving the other one out. I need to do some cardio myself[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif[/img] I have faith in you bro!!! |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:16:51 AM EDT
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I lift 5 mornings a week. Before I lift I run 7 minute mile, just enough to get my heart going fast, but not fast enough to drain me.
In the evenings I do kickboxing 3 days a week and I run two days, around 2-4 miles each. Im 6'1", 205lbs. I eat two protein shakes a day and take amino acids during my workout, eat 3 eggs and a banana for breakfast, a salad with meat for lunch, and a normal dinner. With this workout plan I have not experienced a loss in measurable and consistent strength gains. I generally stay at the same weight and just get stringer and faster. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:17:02 AM EDT
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For the vast majority of people that really does not apply.
If you're lifting enough that you're trying to get stronk, you're not going to be someone running endurance races. And vice versa. It's two completely opposite ends of the spectrum athletically. Now it may affect your planning as far as what or how much you do on certain days. For instance I usually limited cardio to no more than 30 minutes on days before I was doing squats, depending on if I was feeling the CRS or not. But I always did both. Because I needed both power development and cardio endurance for different purposes. And I never had any problem getting stronger. But I ate well and plenty, and worked my ass off. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:23:42 AM EDT
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Sprints. Interval training. Longer runs at low and moderate heart rate change the metabolism, increase stress hormones. The newest research on athletes and ketosis-- this is where it's at. i had no idea about the science of it, but i always preferred sprint workouts to "running". sprint 100M, walk 100M, repeat, then sprint 200M, walk 200M, repeat...working up to 400M. only rules were never stop moving, and sprint as hard as you can go. this workout used to absolutely crush the distance guys i'd run with, but in fairness i have to admit that their workouts wrecked me, also. the decision to quit working together was completely mutual.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:25:24 AM EDT
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Excelling at both is hard for most people to do. Pick the one that meets your main goals and make it your priority, with out leaving the other one out. I need to do some cardio myself[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif[/url] I have faith in you bro!!! Mmmm...cardio
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Posted: 1/18/2015 3:31:22 AM EDT
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Excelling at both is hard for most people to do. That is about as plain, and accurate an answer as you can get. Without assistance, or hitting the genetic jackpot, it is very difficult to do both, and recover properly. You can be generally okay at both, but it takes very careful planning to have great endurance, and great strength numbers. It isn't that the "cardio" is "burning" your muscles; cardio can interfere with proper recovery, which is one of the most important aspects of building strength (or size, if that's your thing). Interestingly, it seems that it isn't even an issue of only steady-state cardio being the culprit, as many HIIT proponents believe. Some HIIT protocols seem to demonstrate a greater effect on strength, requiring even more careful timing, and more recovery than LISS. The big name, as of late, in strength AND endurance is Alex Viada. He manages to compete in both endurance races, and powerlifting meets in the same season, without looking foolish. I'm sure he isn't 100% clean, but he is still rather exceptional. Here is an interview where he addresses some of the concerns |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 3:21:34 PM EDT
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i had no idea about the science of it, but i always preferred sprint workouts to "running". sprint 100M, walk 100M, repeat, then sprint 200M, walk 200M, repeat...working up to 400M. only rules were never stop moving, and sprint as hard as you can go. this workout used to absolutely crush the distance guys i'd run with, but in fairness i have to admit that their workouts wrecked me, also. the decision to quit working together was completely mutual. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sprints. Interval training. Longer runs at low and moderate heart rate change the metabolism, increase stress hormones. The newest research on athletes and ketosis-- this is where it's at. i had no idea about the science of it, but i always preferred sprint workouts to "running". sprint 100M, walk 100M, repeat, then sprint 200M, walk 200M, repeat...working up to 400M. only rules were never stop moving, and sprint as hard as you can go. this workout used to absolutely crush the distance guys i'd run with, but in fairness i have to admit that their workouts wrecked me, also. the decision to quit working together was completely mutual. Fartlek training....google it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 3:34:12 PM EDT
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http://broscience.co/horrible-deadlifts-crossfit-games/ Watching cross fitters attempt to deadlift is the funniest fucking thing on the planet. That was painful to watch. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 3:39:55 PM EDT
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I've read a few articles that say doing cardio will ruin your muscle gains from strength training by burning your muscles off. Discuss. Muscles do not "burn off". They can atrophy from lack of use or be consumed by a body in need of protein to repair more important organs. But they do not "burn" off. Cardio done properly makes the cardiovascular system more efficient...and generally more efficient at the use of energy. Weight lifting in and of itself has a cardiovascular benefit. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:22:05 PM EDT
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I do cardio while I lift heavy four days a week; one primary compound lift- bench, squat, mil press and deads followed up by a rotation of high intensity accessory lifts to round out the day. They get the cardiovascular system pumping.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:27:04 PM EDT
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And it's true brother! 3 more weeks and I'll be in houston!! |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:29:28 PM EDT
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I get plenty of 'cardio' on leg day. You are either trolling or you actually get it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:31:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at runners Sprinters have bulk Long distance marathon runners tend to be skinny. http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.607995562264562380&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608051435497194715&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0 This HIIT tends to spare muscle tissue more than straight cardio.. and takes less time. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HIIT training is the best way to either keep/add muscle while having a cardio program, or for when you want to cut. HIIT works wonders for me when I go into a cut phase every spring snd summer. i can and will 2nd and 3rd this statement.. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:40:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: wow. just wow. the following is what you should have learned in high school: physical exertion requires energy, which is measured in calories. calories are present in food, and enter the body through eating and digestion. if you are exerting so much energy that your food intake does not provide enough calories, your body goes to its backup source--calories stored in fat. if you aren;t getting enough food, and have no fat, your body turns to its backup backup source--burning muscle. so unless you are exerting a tremendous amount of energy, eating poorly, and are already so shredded that your body has practically no fat to burn (say, under 4%), you aren't going to be burning muscle. this ignores the ambiguity of "muscle gain", which can imply either size or strength. the latter should be of primary concern, and is not going to be jeopardized by cardio unless you're basically starving. seriously man--it's about health, not glamor. I don't know that much about it, but I remember reading that at some point in order to provide nutrient to the brain the body breaks down protein along with fat. That is, you can't survive 100% on ketosis because the brain needs glycogen. That's why most low-carb/high-fat diets are usually moderate to high-protein. PSMF is built around taking in very very few calories while preventing muscle loss by consuming absurd amounts of protein because otherwise even the biggest fatass will lose some muscle on a really low calorie diet. I guess that's got more to do with nutrition than cardio, though, so I'll shut up now. a few things to throw a wrench into that.. strong following shows your brain runs better on ketones than glycogen .. also. your liver will break down excessive protein into glycogen as well , and can kick you out of keto especially if your not adapted.. but ill shut up now b.c thats some shit OP doesn't give a damn about  |
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