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Posted: 9/15/2009 11:28:53 AM EDT
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Cuz the [insert Neil Boortz voice] lawwwwmakers...... say so.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 11:30:39 AM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... funny how estrogen isn't controlled for womens HRT the same as test is controlled for men..... BTW the government hasn't been "of the people" for quite a while |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 11:36:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 11:46:33 AM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 11:52:27 AM EDT
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the should be legal.
Besides I could use the nut shrinkage, mine are too big as is. 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:27:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. No, I have a legally *correct* view of the Constitution. If it is not enumerated as 'protected' AND It has not been ruled a 9th Ammendment (un-enumerated) right by the Courts... Then it is not a right And if the people of this nation so desire, it MAY be regulated by the appropriate levels of government, as their various powers allow... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:27:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden. No... That which is not explicitly protected, or found to be protected by the courts MAY be forbidden, if people vote in such a manner... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:28:22 PM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden. Actually it's more like "That which is not explicitly permitted is at the discretion of the legislature." |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:33:11 PM EDT
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Very few people have what it takes to actually get to the point where steroids become a necessary training aid anyway. Yup. A metric shit ton of hard work and proper diet will get you a lot farther than any chemical. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:43:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Very few people have what it takes to actually get to the point where steroids become a necessary training aid anyway. Yup. A metric shit ton of hard work and proper diet will get you a lot farther than any chemical. It's not like a guy can start injecting testosterone, lay on the couch with a case of beer and turn into Ronnie Coleman. It still takes work. If a metric shit ton of hard work and proper diet will get you so far, then a metric shit ton of work, a good diet, plus steroids will get you just as far, only in a shorter amount of time. You can fuck yourself up with steroids. Make no mistake. Down regulation of GnRH isn't something I'd want to fuck with. But it can be done safely. If it can be done safely, and if adults wish to do it to themselves, then there is no reason for big brother to say you cannot. Lots of legal things can fuck you up if you take them to excess or do stupid things with them. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:46:31 PM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden. Actually it's more like "That which is not explicitly permitted is at the discretion of the legislature." Over time it becomes the same thing. Someone does something stupid, next thing you know someone says "There should be a law against that..." This is the main reason why the Constitution has explicitly enumerated powers rather than explicitly enumerated rights (see the 10th Amendment, all other rights are in "theory" retained by the people or the states, not the Federal government). But that point is ignored by statists. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:48:20 PM EDT
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Very few people have what it takes to actually get to the point where steroids become a necessary training aid anyway. Yup. A metric shit ton of hard work and proper diet will get you a lot farther than any chemical. Actually I think it takes a metric shit ton of hard work regardless. The allure of steroids is that it makes it easier not necessarily easy. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:49:33 PM EDT
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Because they'll make you look like Carrot Top. ...And that's disgusting. http://www.mikemaeder.com/uploaded_images/CarrotTop1-760426.jpg 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:51:31 PM EDT
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Same reason any other drugs are illegal or controlled. QFTT |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:54:43 PM EDT
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I knew a guy once using steriods. His attitude went from day to night. He got very aggressive and very ill tempered real fast once he started his regimine. I have no problem with them being illegal. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile so you knew a guy ONCE who was ornery on them, so they should be illegal for everyone. That's just brilliant. Do you really know what anabolic steroids can and do to a person's mental status? Have you ever been around someone who has gone on a 'roid rage? Then you would know what th other poster is talking about. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:55:31 PM EDT
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Check out the movie "Bigger, Stronger, Faster", some of you idiots have no clue as to what you talking about.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:05:51 PM EDT
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Not illegal They are controled Get use to that folks What's the difference between controlled and illegal. I'd like to know. Controlled means that if the police were to look in my refrigerator and see the bottle of testosterone cypionate there, they would not arrest me, because it's inside another bottle that has my prescription label on it. Illegal would imply that you simply can't have them (for example, nobody gets a prescription for heroin). |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:06:08 PM EDT
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Steroids are illegal because we are SLAVES, and MASTER SAYS NO. This, thank god the government knows what is best for us Nothing wrong with roids, unless you abuse them (which can be said for almost anything) |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:08:47 PM EDT
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Very few people have what it takes to actually get to the point where steroids become a necessary training aid anyway. Yup. A metric shit ton of hard work and proper diet will get you a lot farther than any chemical. Well, a metric shit ton of hard work and a proper diet AND testosterone injections will get you a lot further than a metric shit ton of hard work and a proper diet without the testosterone. But agreed that there are a lot of people who take steroids as a substitute for poor training, diet, or recovery. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:09:51 PM EDT
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Drugs are illegal because the state has determined that you exist to serve them, and not vice versa.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:09:52 PM EDT
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Because no.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:16:36 PM EDT
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They do it for the children because they know what is best for us. Same old song, same old bull shit.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:21:08 PM EDT
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Because they give the person the roid rage. Sometimes uncontrollable...
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:21:55 PM EDT
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Steroids are illegal? I don't think so. Just not allowed in sports. I may be wrong. Only by prescription. And near impossible to find a doctor that will give you a prescription. You have to prove a medical need, not a desire to build muscle. Steroids are awesome, just not worth bringing them in from Mexico, very illegal now. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:30:28 PM EDT
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Because men with breasts would confuse the homophobes
Gynomastecoma- or something like that, is not a side effect I would risk. That takes someone over dosing for a long time. I would not admit to there use or recommend them to anyone. But most of the side affects are rare and require massive over dosing. Adults should not smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, use drugs, etc. But the government should leave adults alone to decide for themselves. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:34:53 PM EDT
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I'm guessing many of you guys are not college age and into lifting weights, because if you work out in a college gym for a few months you will get to know LOTS of guys who take steroids regularly. I know many guys that have and 90% of what people hear about steroids is bullshit. It makes you stronger and with dedicate training you will get big, but if you lay on the couch you will just get fat. The one side-effect that is often true is the back-acne...
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:34:58 PM EDT
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seriously, a lot of hearsay in this thread. Roid rage is largely bullshit. I swear people acting like assholes on roids are acting like assholes because all they have ever heard is roid rage this and that.
I took two cycles ten years ago, aside from being hornier than I ever thought was possible there really wasn't any kind of emotion change, outburst, etc. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:35:17 PM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... (Unless, you are a Woman, who wants to become a 'Man') 
Simple enough... Just say'in 
Has it ever been Proven that anyone Died directly from Anabolic Steroids? Proof, not Speculation; Not because of other drugs,ie a Diuretics. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:36:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... (Unless, you are a Woman, who wants to become a 'Man') Simple enough... Just say'in Has it ever been Proven that anyone Died directly from Anabolic Steroids? Proof, not Speculation; Not because of other drugs,ie a Diuretics. yes, there have been a few that have developed tumors/cancer that were directly linked to their steroid use. It takes a lot of steroids to do it though. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:45:36 PM EDT
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yes, there have been a few that have developed tumors/cancer that were directly linked to their steroid use. It takes a lot of steroids to do it though. Who? Lyle Alzedo? |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:49:19 PM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... (Unless, you are a Woman, who wants to become a 'Man')
Simple enough... Just say'in
Has it ever been Proven that anyone Died directly from Anabolic Steroids? Proof, not Speculation; Not because of other drugs,ie a Diuretics. yes, there have been a few that have developed tumors/cancer that were directly linked to their steroid use. It takes a lot of steroids to do it though. AS causing Tumors/Cancer? Source? Are you thinking about Growth Hormone? Cigarettes have been scientifically linked. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:50:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... Simple enough... You have a very backwards view of the Constitution. That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden. Actually it's more like "That which is not explicitly permitted is at the discretion of the legislature." Over time it becomes the same thing. Someone does something stupid, next thing you know someone says "There should be a law against that..." This is the main reason why the Constitution has explicitly enumerated powers rather than explicitly enumerated rights (see the 10th Amendment, all other rights are in "theory" retained by the people or the states, not the Federal government). But that point is ignored by statists. Steroids, the topic of discussion here, are generally illegal under state law, BTW... So even if we accept that there is no (general welfare, commerce clause, etc) enumerated federal power to regulate roids, that does not get us to 'free the juice'... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:53:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Cigarettes have been scientifically linked. And the aim of tobacco regulation is an eventual ban... We're getting there, one 'absolutely no smoking here' law at a time... Roids are not quite so ingrained in our culture, so it's much easier to just slap a ban on them... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:03:51 PM EDT
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I knew a guy once using steriods. His attitude went from day to night. He got very aggressive and very ill tempered real fast once he started his regimine. I have no problem with them being illegal. so you knew a guy ONCE who was ornery on them, so they should be illegal for everyone. That's just brilliant. If you want to shrink your nuts and beat your girlfriend just so you can bulk up a bit, you go right ahead. You can be the brilliant one. Hell, I'm a libertarian. I think people should do what they want to do unless it infringes on others. Drugs like PCP and steroids make people violent, its not just an "I knew a guy" thing. There are plenty of studies on the behavioral changes steroids cause. ....And yes I'm aware that alcohol makes some people violent too but the percentage of people that alcohol does this too I'm sure is much smaller than that among steroid users. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This is not an attack. I am just curious how you came to this conclusion. So do you know this only from a study you read? What type and what was the length of the cycle the sujects in the study were on? Did they inject into the muscle or take the pills that metabolise through the liver? So how violent did they get? Were the subjects adults, or did it include kids that were still growing? No one I worked out with ever had these issues you mention, but I only worked out with adults whose worse side effects I am aware of is back acne. And none of these individuals did massive dosing either. Too much of anything including sugar can cause unwanted reactions. Makes me think of the liberal studies on guns. They would have you believe that the most dangerous thing you can do is to have a gun in your home. And they believe we should not be "allowed" to own a firearm, it would be for our own good. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:04:09 PM EDT
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Steroids, the topic of discussion here, are generally illegal under state law, BTW... Which, oddly enough, I'm ok with since it's generally acceptable under the powers delegated to the state to do so. So even if we accept that there is no (general welfare, commerce clause, etc) enumerated federal power to regulate roids, that does not get us to 'free the juice'...
General welfare and commerce clause have been stretched way beyond the bounds of credulity in Washington's never ending quest for more power over the citizenry. I'll give the alcohol prohibition movement one complement, and that is that they went about it the right way by getting a Constitutional amendment passed rather than selectively re-interpreting statutes and clauses to fit whatever their point of view happens to be at the time. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:07:32 PM EDT
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Glad I have a script for my gear.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:15:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Right that's why all those women in countries where it's legal are constantly being beat up in the streets. You watch too many after school specials. Quoted: Quoted: I knew a guy once using steriods. His attitude went from day to night. He got very aggressive and very ill tempered real fast once he started his regimine. I have no problem with them being illegal. so you knew a guy ONCE who was ornery on them, so they should be illegal for everyone. That's just brilliant. If you want to shrink your nuts and beat your girlfriend just so you can bulk up a bit, you go right ahead. You can be the brilliant one. Hell, I'm a libertarian. I think people should do what they want to do unless it infringes on others. Drugs like PCP and steroids make people violent, its not just an "I knew a guy" thing. There are plenty of studies on the behavioral changes steroids cause. ....And yes I'm aware that alcohol makes some people violent too but the percentage of people that alcohol does this too I'm sure is much smaller than that among steroid users. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile  In Turkey protein powder is more expensive than a cycle of steroids yet they don't seem to be having any problems with roid raging maniacs. Testosterone is a magical thing if your an aggressive asshole and your test levels rise your aggressive assholeness will probably rise too same goes for angry drunks. Infact depression is a more common side effect rather than aggression. The government successfully brain washed the masses on this one. There's plenty of ways to keep your testicles hanging low and your boobs rock hard while on a cycle. The science has changed a bit since the 80's. There's also many medical benefits that steroids can bring which is why we are seeing a rise in legal "Testosterone clinics". |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:20:22 PM EDT
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Cigarettes have been scientifically linked. And the aim of tobacco regulation is an eventual ban... We're getting there, one 'absolutely no smoking here' law at a time... Roids are not quite so ingrained in our culture, so it's much easier to just slap a ban on them... But...there are benefits to HRT, especially under Docs supervision. It doesn't affect anyone else....there's no 'secondhand' problems. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:22:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... (Unless, you are a Woman, who wants to become a 'Man') Simple enough... Just say'in Has it ever been Proven that anyone Died directly from Anabolic Steroids? Proof, not Speculation; Not because of other drugs,ie a Diuretics. yes, there have been a few that have developed tumors/cancer that were directly linked to their steroid use. It takes a lot of steroids to do it though. AS causing Tumors/Cancer? Source? Are you thinking about Growth Hormone? Cigarettes have been scientifically linked. Even with Growth Hormone the risk is growing EXISTING tumors not creating new ones. There is no link between steroids and cancer. If abused they can cause liver disease etc but the same can be said for just about anything that passes through the liver. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:23:10 PM EDT
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Steroids, the topic of discussion here, are generally illegal under state law, BTW... Which, oddly enough, I'm ok with since it's generally acceptable under the powers delegated to the state to do so. I doubt the state would be for regulating/banning them if the feds weren't involved |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:39:36 PM EDT
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watch vid here Answer question: What gives the U.S. government(or you through the U.S. government) the right to tell a healthy adult male, who isn't involved in competitive public sports, that he cannot take anabolic androgenic steroids even though he has weighed carefully the risks/rewards of doing so? Because the use of recreational drugs (and 'Bigger muscles without all the work' is recreational, not medical) is something that a majority of our society does not approve of... It is also not an enumerated right in the Constitution, nor has any court found it to be protected by the 9th Ammendment... Therefore, the government 'of the people' has decided that you are not allowed to use roids... (Unless, you are a Woman, who wants to become a 'Man')
Simple enough... Just say'in
Has it ever been Proven that anyone Died directly from Anabolic Steroids? Proof, not Speculation; Not because of other drugs,ie a Diuretics. yes, there have been a few that have developed tumors/cancer that were directly linked to their steroid use. It takes a lot of steroids to do it though. AS causing Tumors/Cancer? Source? Are you thinking about Growth Hormone? Cigarettes have been scientifically linked. Even with Growth Hormone the risk is growing EXISTING tumors not creating new ones. There is no link between steroids and cancer. If abused they can cause liver disease etc but the same can be said for just about anything that passes through the liver. Most people associate Gh to Lyle Alzado; He used the old form from Cadavers, not the Synthetic version. Alzado blamed cancer on AS/Gh, no link was ever made. Do you know how toxic Tylenol is? 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 2:56:51 PM EDT
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"Roid rage" is largely a myth. Testicles return to normal size following a cycle. The media's information about steroids is about as reliable as its information about firearms. For the record, I do not use them. But botox so toxic that one teaspoon can kill 30 million people, and yet the government lets people inject it into their faces for cosmetic purposes. If THAT'S legal, then men should be able to inject themselves with a substance that is already in their bodies naturally. You are just another internet smartypants.... a perfect example of someone who thinks they understand something, but you don't really. Look at your botox comment. You've clearly got no understanding on how it works then say because MEDICALLY TRAINED PERSONS inject EXTREMELY DILUTE concentrations into INFORMED PATIENTS, that means it would be a good idea for you to be able to buy roids from a vending machine. Or look at your comment that implies if it is in our bodies naturally, it must be OK. Well shit, we ought to put dopamine and epinephrine in the vending machine next to your roids, right? Now instead of just saying that conventional wisdom is wrong, why don't you link us to some studies that back up your controversial position that non-medically managed recreational use of steroids don't have problematic incidences of roid rage? Quoted:
Because most people don't know shit about how they work or which compound(s) to take, how much/how little. This thread is exhibit A. QFT |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:04:32 PM EDT
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This thread is so full of fail. I hate when people talk about things they don't know. We all hate it when people talk about guns with stories such as "I had a friend who knew a guy who had guns and he went crazy and shot five people, therefor, guns are evil and must be banned," so why do we talk that way about steroids?
The thing that I disliked the most about Bush was his involvment in banning precusors to anabolics. Thats like saying cholesteral, since its converted to other hormones, testosterone included, should be banned. Last I checked, my testes produce testosterone, should they be banned, or just regulated?!? Should a chip be placed in them to make sure my natural hormone range is under 1,000? Maybe it would be easier to control me if they were regulated to 500? What a waste of our money going after doctors who supplied prescriptions for anabolics. And thank god millions were spend to find out Barry Bonds used. I sleep better at night feeling safer his trainer/chemist Patrick Arnold served a few months in jail. Imagine if we had instead used that money to combat gangs who traffic real drugs? I have never heard of a gun killing people by itself and I've also never heard of a steriod "addict" breaking into a work truck to steal a cordless drill so he could pawn it for a $20 vial of decca. My first rant on here, and i didn't even swear yet, fuck. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:08:16 PM EDT
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Interesting. That 70 year old guy looked like he was in his 50's.
The report, as open-minded as it was, failed to talk about the health risks of NOT taking steroids as men age.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:11:56 PM EDT
[#45]
Just get a prescription...available at any "anti-aging clinic"
Speaking of which bout time for my Test E shot... 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:14:38 PM EDT
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Steroids are illegal? I don't think so. Just not allowed in sports. I may be wrong. They are a controlled substance. You must have a prescription and even some anabolics are not imported or made in the USA. No physician will admit to giving steroids out for any sort of athletic performance enhancement or physique issues, only for low testosterone. But some will, you have to find the right one and pay out of pocket. Steroids when used properly are not dangerous, it was a situation of anti-drug policy steering science. At the time in the 80's when they were banning anabolics several federal agencies had to turn in reports on whether or not they were dangerous. The DEA nor any other agency said they were dangerous at the time. Just about every non government or anti drug policy agency funded study says that when properly used they are not dangerous. Steroids are not bad, nor dangerous when used properly. It's all bullshit and hype that got pushed because of the American sense of fair play and pro sports. It was thought it was an unfair advantage. But steroids don't really make your stronger, they make you heal faster from your work outs. This is the magic, the healing faster and growth from it. But it doesn't happen if you don't put in the work. Steroids should be legal OTC. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:15:49 PM EDT
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I found this in the wikipedia:
Female-specific side effects include increases in body hair, deepening of the voice, enlarged clitoris, and temporary decreases in menstrual cycles.
That one sentence alone is sufficient reason for steroids to be illegal. In fact manufacture and distribution of steroids should cary a death sentence. Unless of course you find a hairy masculine woman with a clenis to be attractive. 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:16:52 PM EDT
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Maybe my experience is tainted, but the one guy in college that I knew for sure that took steroids also sucker punched random people on a weekly basis. If he wasn't wearing a smile, it was best to move along quickly.
Of the dozen or so fights I've witnessed in my adult life, he was involved in all but maybe two. ETA: I take that back, I know two or three that took them with a legit prescription (the kid that was a foot and a half shorter than everyone else) and they were oK. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:19:07 PM EDT
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Very few people have what it takes to actually get to the point where steroids become a necessary training aid anyway. And very few people have a damn clue how they work, they just all recite 'roids are de debil. Think of how much further research would be with anabolics if it was not so tightly controlled? There would be better dosage schemes and delivery systems. It would help people with AIDS, Cancer and other chronic wasting diseases. Hell it may even be part of the solution to obesity and metabolic syndrome. We will never know because politics trumped science. p.s I am out of here, got to study organic chemistry. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 3:22:47 PM EDT
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Same reason any other drugs are illegal or controlled. WRONG steriods got banned because some defense attorney made up the term ROID RAGE to get his dumbass client off of a murder charge. |
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