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Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:17:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2016 5:18:38 PM EDT by Kaygee]
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Originally Posted By jwmac:
I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment.  Repeatedly fuck up in your unit?  Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard.

Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo.  Sounds horrible to me.
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They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:22:13 PM EDT
Not enough bayonet.


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Was about to post some of these. In comparison this British guardsman looked sloppy as fuck and had zero command presence.

The Ministry of Silly Walks should re-think that petulant child foot stomping.

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Originally Posted By Eric802:


Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it?
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Originally Posted By jestice75:
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Originally Posted By Bradders:


M193?



The M193 cartridge is a center-fire cartridge with a 55-grain, gilded metal-jacketed, lead alloy core bullet. The M193 round is the standard cartridge for field use with the M16A1 rifle and has no identifying marks.


Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo


Were those fencers behind a barrier or wearing a plate?


Well, given that M193 was never used by the Brits, it doesn't really matter, does it?


We-el, not quite.  The L2A1 used by the Royal Marines was an exact copy of the M-193 made by Radway Green.  It was used in the small number of M-16A1s they had in service from the late '60s to the NATO adoption of the 5.56 round, when the L2A2 (SS109) became the standard issue ball round.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:27:17 PM EDT
Nothing quite coveys authority like aiming from hip.  




Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:27:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

That sucks.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:
Wonder if they even have live ammo?


Ceremonial guards generally don't

That sucks.


Remember that Canadian guard that was killed, his rifle was unloaded.
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Originally Posted By Kaygee:


They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs.
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Originally Posted By Kaygee:
Originally Posted By jwmac:
I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment.  Repeatedly fuck up in your unit?  Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard.

Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo.  Sounds horrible to me.


They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs.


Guess that makes sense.  Got hand it to those guys though, that job has had to have become considerably more difficult with the advent of youtube and the mobilephone video camera.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:50:17 PM EDT
A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  


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Link Posted: 4/18/2016 5:57:26 PM EDT
At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in.  Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 6:06:15 PM EDT
Why do people have to behave like assholes?
Too bad he didn't cut loose with some live rounds.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 7:03:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:
Why do people have to behave like assholes?
Too bad he didn't cut loose with some live rounds.
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10% of people do not know how to behave in public.

The number goes up dramatically if you put them behind a keyboard.


Link Posted: 4/18/2016 7:17:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg
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Wow, poor guys.  They dont even pretend.  Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 7:24:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By killswitch:


Wow, poor guys.  They dont even pretend.  Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something.
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Originally Posted By killswitch:
Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg


Wow, poor guys.  They dont even pretend.  Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something.



What are you referring to?

Link Posted: 4/18/2016 7:26:30 PM EDT
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What are you referring to?

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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By killswitch:
Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg


Wow, poor guys.  They dont even pretend.  Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something.



What are you referring to?



No idea.  Mind you, I personally think 6 rounds and a bayonet is a bit on the meager side, but it ain't defenseless.  And given the location, I'm pretty sure that a single round going off is going to result in something of a massive response from all sorts of folks with more ammo.
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Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  

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Looks like Windsor?
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 10:03:25 PM EDT
IIRC DK prof did that for the queen of Denmark. He got a magazine that was flush with the C7 mag well that held six or seven rounds.  He also reported that they had either on them or near them another 30 rounds.  The guards off watch are the QRF and they had multiple magazines worth ready to go.  Those 36 rounds would bring reenforcements quite quickly.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 10:34:39 PM EDT
my pic from London town

lost the rest of them
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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



I don't know if anyone has pointed it out to him, but he has a pokey bit on the end of his rifle that I believe would be excellent in getting an individual off of a fence.


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My thoughts exactly! Fucking tourists
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Originally Posted By 1811guy:
At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in.  Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous.
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Those are their regular uniform shoes.  Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours.
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Man there are some real dumbass people out there.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:05:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carguym14:




The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence.

"I warned you to stay off the fence"
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
I am guessing stamping his foot is the only warning they give.



From wiki, so take it for what it's worth:

Sentries receive instruction on how to eliminate nuisance or any suggestion of threat from members of the public. There is a protocol they follow which begins with "stamping" (coming to attention sharply). He will also shout: "Stand back from the Queen's Guard" or similar. If this does not eliminate the nuisance or threat he will repeat the stamp and shout again. If the nuisance or threat still does not cease the sentry will assume the position of "port arms" whereby he points his rifle at the source of the interference with his duties. If these warnings are not heeded the sentry then has the choice of detaining the person(s) himself or pressing the button in his sentry box to summon assistance.


Backed up by http://changing-guard.com/changing-guard-buckingham-palace.html




The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence.

"I warned you to stay off the fence"


You cannot work in govt.

Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective...
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:14:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mariner82:

Those are their regular uniform shoes.  Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours.
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Originally Posted By Mariner82:
Originally Posted By 1811guy:
At least they give them humongous clown shoes to stomp around in.  Using regular combat boots or military uniform shoes would look ridiculous.

Those are their regular uniform shoes.  Because they aren't Bates plastic pieces of shit means they're probably better than ours.



Hink they are hobnail or some such thing.   Look for videos of them loosing their shit and slipping and eating shit.

They have a traditional and/or sentimental meaning.

The honor guys get my respect after having been to two service funerals where honor guards looked over the fallen until services/burial were completed.   These guys take their role fairly seriously.

Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:34:30 PM EDT
quite frankly, I have nothing but respect for all the ceremonial guards.  

Totally thankless, exceedingly boring, sometimes people just fuck with 'em and there's not much they can do about it.  I don't have the patience for it personally and I really respect those that do.

I imagine the beefeater gear is hot as shit, but they have to suck it up.  The Old Guard guys are out there no matter the weather.  I assume pretty much all palace guards of other nationalities are the same.
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Originally Posted By madmike66:


Nothing quite coveys authority like aiming from hip.  
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iirc it's a position from which to charge with the bayonet, not a firing position.



 
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Originally Posted By Bradders:
Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo
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Originally Posted By carguym14:




Originally Posted By Bradders:




Originally Posted By Taboot:






Would be cool if they had 2 rifles.  One with blanks, and one with M193.  I'd love to see the idiots shit themselves when the blanks crack.  






M193?

The M193 cartridge is a center-fire cartridge with a 55-grain, gilded metal-jacketed, lead alloy core bullet. The M193 round is the standard cartridge for field use with the M16A1 rifle and has no identifying marks.








Yeah, I know what it is, but it's basically obsolete in a world of 62gn SS109 type ammo
Ok then, SS109.  You get my drift.

 
 
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:56:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By klinc:
I like how everyone started laughing when he was pointing his rifle at them and telling them for a 3rd/4th time to get off the fence.
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The very few times in my life I've had a gun pointed at me I don't think I've laughed about it.

I guess I'm not as tough as most people.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 12:02:22 AM EDT
I can't imagine what kind of idiot tourist gets their jollies fucking with a palace guard while he's on duty.



If he's one of ours, sorry old chaps.  Feel free to beat some sense into them...probably not possible but at least it will make good video.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 12:09:17 AM EDT
Dude needs a grenade launcher.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Somewhat like the Tomb Guards at Arlington, they seem to take their duty seriously.
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They are also professional, inspiring and all around awesome.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 12:52:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

That sucks.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:
Wonder if they even have live ammo?


Ceremonial guards generally don't

That sucks.


They're not just ceremonial.  They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 1:39:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
I am guessing stamping his foot is the only warning they give.
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Grabbing the rifle is a form of warning too, IIRC.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 1:41:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Whoever attempted to blur out the guard's face sure did a shitty job of it.


Best Simspons scene ever.
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Whoever attempted to blur out the guard's face sure did a shitty job of it.

Originally Posted By Mike_314:
http://youtu.be/G8Qw5XsVkC0

Best Simspons scene ever.

International Drainage Commission
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Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:
Wonder if they even have live ammo?
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There is one way to find out.  I nominate you as the test subject.  Go get em.
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Originally Posted By HighCaliber:


They're not just ceremonial.  They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot.
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Originally Posted By HighCaliber:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:
Wonder if they even have live ammo?


Ceremonial guards generally don't

That sucks.


They're not just ceremonial.  They have live ammunition and if presented with a real threat may seek or already have permission to shoot.

Is it in the rifles, or do they have to run a quarter of a mile to get it?
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Originally Posted By uglygun:


You cannot work in govt.

Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective...
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Originally Posted By uglygun:
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:
I am guessing stamping his foot is the only warning they give.



From wiki, so take it for what it's worth:

Sentries receive instruction on how to eliminate nuisance or any suggestion of threat from members of the public. There is a protocol they follow which begins with "stamping" (coming to attention sharply). He will also shout: "Stand back from the Queen's Guard" or similar. If this does not eliminate the nuisance or threat he will repeat the stamp and shout again. If the nuisance or threat still does not cease the sentry will assume the position of "port arms" whereby he points his rifle at the source of the interference with his duties. If these warnings are not heeded the sentry then has the choice of detaining the person(s) himself or pressing the button in his sentry box to summon assistance.


Backed up by http://changing-guard.com/changing-guard-buckingham-palace.html




The button in the sentry box should send an electrical current through the fence.

"I warned you to stay off the fence"


You cannot work in govt.

Your solution is too simple and likely far too effective...

...and cheaper than whatever the retards in gov are using
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Originally Posted By Bradders:


Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary.
Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland?

Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere
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Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:
Wonder if they even have live ammo?


Ceremonial guards generally don't

That sucks.


Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary.
Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland?

Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere


So security improved after the michael fagan incidents?



Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:51:46 AM EDT
The buffoons on here mocking him are as bad as the dimwit on the fence and euro trash laughing like monkeys.

Show some fucking respect for our brothers.
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Originally Posted By killswitch:
They dont like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4bRcEVEk
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
The Old Guard is a little more convincing.
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The Old Guard watches over men far more worthy than any monarch or politician.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:12:09 AM EDT
It was probably empty.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:10:59 AM EDT
IIRC those guys are active duty soldiers from Guards units.  ie: they are real deal soldiers and not just for ceremony.



I believe there is a rotation between the different Guards units.
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Originally Posted By Bradders:
Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary.

Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland?



Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere
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Originally Posted By Bradders:



Originally Posted By swede1986:


Originally Posted By Bradders:


Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:

Wonder if they even have live ammo?




Ceremonial guards generally don't


That sucks.




Armies generally don't like ammunition, so only issue the stuff when necessary.

Don't you have ceremonial stuff in Swedeland?



Armed security is taken care of by the Police, and at places like Buckingham Palace they are everywhere
NCO on duty at Tomb of the Unknown has a pistol that isnt a prop piece



 
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What are you referring to?



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Originally Posted By killswitch:


Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:

A somewhat relevant picture I took when I was in the UK last summer.  



http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz245/Sleepy01988/IMG_1819.jpg









Wow, poor guys.  They dont even pretend.  Youd think they could at least give them something like a letter opener or something.






What are you referring to?





I'm guessing he's referring to the empty bayonet scabbard on their belts. As per usual GD protocol, excessive and increasingly-degrading self-abuse has caused his eyesight to fail, so he hasn't noticed that the bayonets are actually mounted on the rifles. Instead, he assumes "ha ha ha, Engerland soldurs don't have no knives!"



 
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 5:53:04 AM EDT
Was I the only one watching this and thinking "Please don't be an American...please don't be an American..."?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 6:28:41 AM EDT
Palace guards should be allowed to butt stroke to the jaw of anyone who touches them
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Originally Posted By Kaygee:
They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs.
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Originally Posted By Kaygee:



Originally Posted By jwmac:

I don't know, but it seems like being a "palace guard" is almost like a punishment.  Repeatedly fuck up in your unit?  Well sorry, enjoy your stent as a a palace guard.



Goofy assed hat, goofy assed drill movements, fucked with by the public, no ammo.  Sounds horrible to me.




They're from specific regiments that are trained and drilled in ceremonial duties, in addition to their training as regular infantry and cavalry units. They're units with extremely long and illustrious histories, not screwups and dregs.




 



Dude.  Don't bother.




This place is full of Philistines.






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Originally Posted By TheWhiteHorse:



The buffoons on here mocking him are as bad as the dimwit on the fence and euro trash laughing like monkeys.





Show some fucking respect for our brothers.
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I'll give a pass to anyone who's actually pulled guard duty, ceremonial or not.  Soldiers goofing on soldiers is what soldiers do.







Soldiering and the traditions thereof are not something comprehensible to everyone, especially the clowns harassing the sentries in the videos.







There's a cure for it. It's called a buttstroke.  Properly delivered, it would convey that decorum in some public spaces is not negotiable.


 



ETA beat.
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