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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. View Quote Base PATH was obstructed. The runner HAD to step OFF the base path from third to home, in order to get around the Boston Bitch princess with his feet up. It matters not where the foul line was in relation to the runner. |
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. View Quote Craig slides tries to get up, well within the base line, only to find a third baseman kicking hes feet up TWICE to "obstruct" his run to the plate. Watch the replay, he lays out kicks his feet up, see's that Craig is getting up from his slide and then kicks his feet up again and lifts up. Plain and simple you miss the ball, lay like like a bitch until he's done with you. |
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. What happened to your interference argument? Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. |
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Third basmen isnt blocking the bag, he's off to the side. Gets taken out anyway, you know like a second basemen getting obstructed during a double play. It's interference, if hes NOT blocking the bag, he wasnt. So apparently the runner can take out the third basemen at the ankle while hes off to the side of the bag, trip over the guy he just knocked down and win game three of a world series game. Had he stood up, he would have been called for obstruction. Chickenshit call in the World Series. View Quote This times infinity. |
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. View Quote And so players that round the bag after touching the base it are out of the baseline too? |
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Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. What happened to your interference argument? Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. No he wasn't fielding a ball, he was applying a tag. Ground ball hit towards you and runner hits you trying to field, runner interference. Sliding into a base, breaking up a double play, ramming the catcher at home totally legal, as the runner has every right to the bag that the fielder does. Just like if he was standing on the bag watching a fly ball and the runner runs him over, again legal. |
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Mother fucker fucking fuck.
I hope every fucking boston hater gets bit in the ass by a recluse spider tonight. The wound festers as they ignore the invetible, slow painful death in hospice care. As the pulse rate slows, I will tear off the maggot infested bandages, only to smash the flesh with a baseball bad wrapped in rusty barbed wire. I will smile as I pour brine water on the open wound, the cries and screams for mercy will be ignored. I will not call my dogs off for obstruction as they deposit shit in the dying cardinals fan room, as adding shit to shit does not change the situation. Clearly the mother fucker was NOT RUNNING ON THE FUCKING BASE LINE FUCK DUCK DJUOISDJKSNHFDKSNFKJDFJFBJFKJDF * * the crazzzee shit is just hypothetical of course.... |
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Craig slides tries to get up, well within the base line, only to find a third baseman kicking hes feet up TWICE to "obstruct" his run to the plate. Watch the replay, he lays out kicks his feet up, see's that Craig is getting up from his slide and then kicks his feet up again and lifts up. Plain and simple you miss the ball, lay like like a bitch until he's done with you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. Craig slides tries to get up, well within the base line, only to find a third baseman kicking hes feet up TWICE to "obstruct" his run to the plate. Watch the replay, he lays out kicks his feet up, see's that Craig is getting up from his slide and then kicks his feet up again and lifts up. Plain and simple you miss the ball, lay like like a bitch until he's done with you. +1 If he had not moved from where he had fallen, there would have been no obstruction. |
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No he wasn't fielding a ball, he was applying a tag. Ground ball hit towards you and runner hits you trying to field, runner interference. Sliding into a base, breaking up a double play, ramming the catcher at home totally legal, as the runner has every right to the bag that the fielder does. Just like if he was standing on the bag watching a fly ball and the runner runs him over, again legal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. What happened to your interference argument? Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. No he wasn't fielding a ball, he was applying a tag. Ground ball hit towards you and runner hits you trying to field, runner interference. Sliding into a base, breaking up a double play, ramming the catcher at home totally legal, as the runner has every right to the bag that the fielder does. Just like if he was standing on the bag watching a fly ball and the runner runs him over, again legal. P You can't apply a tag unless you've first caught the ball, Middlebrooks is in the act of trying to catch the throw from Saltlamacchia, when he is slid into (off to the runners left of the bag). Middlebrooks is knocked to the ground 3-5 feet INSIDE of the baseline between 2nd and 3rd. It's a chickenshit judgement call, which is a terrible way to end a great game, regardless of whom you're rooting for, and a complete disservice to the World Series. Its a shit call, the Umps should have let the men play ball, rather than deciding the game on an obscure judgement call. |
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Mother fucker fucking fuck. I hope every fucking boston hater gets bit in the ass by a recluse spider tonight. The wound festers as they ignore the invetible, slow painful death in hospice care. As the pulse rate slows, I will tear off the maggot infested bandages, only to smash the flesh with a baseball bad wrapped in rusty barbed wire. I will smile as I pour brine water on the open wound, the cries and screams for mercy will be ignored. I will not call my dogs off for obstruction as they deposit shit in the dying cardinals fan room, as adding shit to shit does not change the situation. Clearly the mother fucker was NOT RUNNING ON THE FUCKING BASE LINE FUCK DUCK DJUOISDJKSNHFDKSNFKJDFJFBJFKJDF * * the crazzzee shit is just hypothetical of course.... View Quote And another delusional Tampax fan that does not understand the difference between a runners base path, and Base line. |
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P You can't apply a tag unless you've first caught the ball, Middlebrooks is in the act of trying to catch the throw from Saltlamacchia, when he is slid into (off to the runners left of the bag). Middlebrooks is knocked to the ground 3-5 feet INSIDE of the baseline between 2nd and 3rd. It's a chickenshit judgement call, which is a terrible way to end a great game, regardless of whom you're rooting for, and a complete disservice to the World Series. Its a shit call, the Umps should have let the men play ball, rather than deciding the game on an obscure judgement call. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. What happened to your interference argument? Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. No he wasn't fielding a ball, he was applying a tag. Ground ball hit towards you and runner hits you trying to field, runner interference. Sliding into a base, breaking up a double play, ramming the catcher at home totally legal, as the runner has every right to the bag that the fielder does. Just like if he was standing on the bag watching a fly ball and the runner runs him over, again legal. P You can't apply a tag unless you've first caught the ball, Middlebrooks is in the act of trying to catch the throw from Saltlamacchia, when he is slid into (off to the runners left of the bag). Middlebrooks is knocked to the ground 3-5 feet INSIDE of the baseline between 2nd and 3rd. It's a chickenshit judgement call, which is a terrible way to end a great game, regardless of whom you're rooting for, and a complete disservice to the World Series. Its a shit call, the Umps should have let the men play ball, rather than deciding the game on an obscure judgement call. I agree with you that it was a crappy ending. But that doesnt mean the rule book goes out the window in the bottom of the ninth. Fielding the ball is when its hit off the bat. Catcher throws a bad ball third baseman tries to tag while hogging the bag, runner slides into bag fielder gets caught up with the runner, happens all the time the difference is Middlebrook interfered with him running home you cant deny that. And just because hes on the inside of the foul line doesn't mean hes out of the base line. |
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No one wants to be outside right now, its fucking cold outside... my gauge say 37 right now... fuck doing anything athletic now
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If you really want, you can go watch the press conference where the umps discuss this.
ETA: The umps specifically address Craig being inside the chalk line. They say that "and don't forget, the runner establishes his own base line" Seriously, go listen to the press conference. They address all the butthurt from the Boston fans. Yeah, it's a tough break. But you don't change the rules just because it was a weird play. |
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Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He CLEARLY impeded the runner and it WAS intentional. When trying to get back up-you don't curl your legs. You execute a push up and pull your legs up under you. Good call umps. Proper call. Good job. Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. No, the baserunner has every right to that space. The fielder is not being impared if he is standing in the runner's path trying to field a ball. Fair game. |
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The only people arguing it was a bad call are non-boston fans View Quote don't know the rules. As a hs/college level player/coach, the correct call was made. People saying "Middlebrooks was like 5 feet away from the baseline!" His feet extended to 3rd base (which is 15in long). The runner makes his own baseline, the foul line is not definitive. |
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As a true Sox fan, I can honestly say that no matter what, they would have lost tonight.
The funny thing to me, is the amount of hate and vitriol towards the Sox, and MA in general. You folks need to relax. Christ, go get laid. Put down the Jergens, get out of mom's basement, and try to smooth talk someone other than your sisters. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Third basmen isnt blocking the bag, he's off to the side. Gets taken out anyway, you know like a second basemen getting obstructed during a double play. It's interference, if hes NOT blocking the bag, he wasnt. So apparently the runner can take out the third basemen at the ankle while hes off to the side of the bag, trip over the guy he just knocked down and win game three of a world series game. Had he stood up, he would have been called for obstruction. Chickenshit call in the World Series. This times infinity. So, which other of the rules of baseball do you think should not apply in the World Series? Perhaps if a fan reaches over the wall and interferes with a play it shouldn't be called because it would be "chickenshit." The rules are the rules. Saltalajdnfjisubaidjnjf made a terrible throw and cost his team that game. Own it and quit blaming the loss on the umpires. |
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Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. Had the thrid basemen pushed up as you said, it definitely would have been obstruction. Shit call, especially to end a world series game three. Kinda chickenshit actually, but by all means, continue to revel in your cheap victory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He CLEARLY impeded the runner and it WAS intentional. When trying to get back up-you don't curl your legs. You execute a push up and pull your legs up under you. Good call umps. Proper call. Good job. Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. Had the thrid basemen pushed up as you said, it definitely would have been obstruction. Shit call, especially to end a world series game three. Kinda chickenshit actually, but by all means, continue to revel in your cheap victory. Craigs slide is not what knocks the 3rd basemen to the ground. If you watch the slow mo replay, Craig did not even hit the 3rd basemens foot. He was diving to get the ball and that is what caused him to fall to the ground |
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John W. Henry needs to make a couple of line up changes to his teams.
He needs to get Louis Suarez on a plane right fucking now to St. Louis, put him in the lineup tonight, and have him bite random Cardinals. How in the hell do you interfere with the base runner when you are laying flat on your belly? I think the third base umpire has been watching to much soccer. Did they get these idiots from UEFA for God's sake? |
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St Louis did get a gift... Boston's defense and bullpen are the gift that keeps on giving. However, the call was correct.
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It's hard to believe that anyone is arguing the call.
Whether the third baseman raised his legs on purpose isn't even relevant to the discussion, and I'm not convinced it was intentional. I don't care which team wins. If I watch a game, I want to see a great game. |
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I'm a Boston fan.
The call was correct. It was obstruction. Those claiming that it was intentional are as delusional as those claiming that it was not obstruction as defined in the rules or those claiming that Craig wasn't even tagged out at the plate. Bottom line: If Saltalamacchia makes an even mildly decent throw to third (or doesn't even try to make that throw to third) the game continues. He didn't. |
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That was not a gift. That was a major league mistake by Middlebrooks. Kudos to Craig for running it out.
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Mother fucker fucking fuck. I hope every fucking boston hater gets bit in the ass by a recluse spider tonight. The wound festers as they ignore the invetible, slow painful death in hospice care. As the pulse rate slows, I will tear off the maggot infested bandages, only to smash the flesh with a baseball bad wrapped in rusty barbed wire. I will smile as I pour brine water on the open wound, the cries and screams for mercy will be ignored. I will not call my dogs off for obstruction as they deposit shit in the dying cardinals fan room, as adding shit to shit does not change the situation. Clearly the mother fucker was NOT RUNNING ON THE FUCKING BASE LINE FUCK DUCK DJUOISDJKSNHFDKSNFKJDFJFBJFKJDF * * the crazzzee shit is just hypothetical of course.... No, just drunker then fuck last night! APOLOGIES! At least I got to watch the game on the big plasma with the old man sitting in the room, kinda just like being back at Fenway when I was a kid, minus the nachos and crowd noise. I am kinda sober now and realize that Salty should have just held the ball. |
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No dog in this fight, however if the Boston catcher didn't sling the ball into left field on every throw to third base this would be a non-issue.
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Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. Had the thrid basemen pushed up as you said, it definitely would have been obstruction. Shit call, especially to end a world series game three. Kinda chickenshit actually, but by all means, continue to revel in your cheap victory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He CLEARLY impeded the runner and it WAS intentional. When trying to get back up-you don't curl your legs. You execute a push up and pull your legs up under you. Good call umps. Proper call. Good job. Look at it again. Craig's slide is what knocks the 3rd basmen to the ground, while trying to field the ball. Thats called interference. Had the thrid basemen pushed up as you said, it definitely would have been obstruction. Shit call, especially to end a world series game three. Kinda chickenshit actually, but by all means, continue to revel in your cheap victory. The only shit part of the play is the throw by the catcher. Good throw gets the play at 3rd, not a shot down the line. Dry your tears and bring it back tomorrow night. Red Sox fans are starting to sound like cubs fans again. Next thing you know it will be the curse of Saltalamachia's mullett that caused this!! |
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Quoted: John W. Henry needs to make a couple of line up changes to his teams. He needs to get Louis Suarez on a plane right fucking now to St. Louis, put him in the lineup tonight, and have him bite random Cardinals. How in the hell do you interfere with the base runner when you are laying flat on your belly? I think the third base umpire has been watching to much soccer. Did they get these idiots from UEFA for God's sake? View Quote Did you even watch the play? Not only was he not flat on his belly (he was pushing himself up), his legs were in the air. There's a provision in the rule book that specifically deals with this play: Rule No. 2: Obstruction: "For example: an infielder dives at a ground ball and the ball passes him and he continues to lie on the ground and delays the progress of the runner, he very likely has obstructed the runner." |
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. View Quote You don't need to be ON the line to be in the base line. He was clearly running from 3rd to home, not taking some a detour to interfere with a play, or avoid a tag. |
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If Middlebrooks had come off the base to field the errant throw better it would also be a non issue. As it was, he completely misses the throw and falls into the runners path creating a very easy obstruction call for the umpires.
I hate to see any game ended by an umpires judgment call but this one was pretty clear. |
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So what happened to the puck ? I did not see that mentioned once .
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Third basmen isnt blocking the bag, he's off to the side. Gets taken out anyway, you know like a second basemen getting obstructed during a double play. It's interference, if hes NOT blocking the bag, he wasnt. So apparently the runner can take out the third basemen at the ankle while hes off to the side of the bag, trip over the guy he just knocked down and win game three of a world series game. Had he stood up, he would have been called for obstruction. Chickenshit call in the World Series. View Quote 3rd baseman stretched out and fell trying to catch the badly thrown ball from the catcher. It was textbook obstruction, get over it. |
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. View Quote That line isn't the baseline, it is the fair/foul line. The baseline is actually the base path, or 3 feet to either side of the base. He is certainly inside it. |
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P You can't apply a tag unless you've first caught the ball, Middlebrooks is in the act of trying to catch the throw from Saltlamacchia, when he is slid into (off to the runners left of the bag). Middlebrooks is knocked to the ground 3-5 feet INSIDE of the baseline between 2nd and 3rd. It's a chickenshit judgement call, which is a terrible way to end a great game, regardless of whom you're rooting for, and a complete disservice to the World Series. Its a shit call, the Umps should have let the men play ball, rather than deciding the game on an obscure judgement call. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Middlebrooks isnt obstructing, as he isnt in the baseline between 3rd and 4th. Looking at the tape, hes actually on the ground 3-5 feet inside the baseline, between 2nd and 3rd. Craig is NOT in the baseline. What happened to your interference argument? Technically, it is interference if a baserunner knocks down a third basemen fielding a ball. It shouldn't have been called, because that would have been a chickenshit call and a chickenshit way for the Sox to have won. The fact remains, Middlebrooks is between 2nd and 3rd, and not in the baseline between 3rd and home. Obstruction was also a chickenshit judgement call, that when it results in a loss at the end of a great game, regardless of who you or I think should have won, its a bad chickenshit judgement call. No he wasn't fielding a ball, he was applying a tag. Ground ball hit towards you and runner hits you trying to field, runner interference. Sliding into a base, breaking up a double play, ramming the catcher at home totally legal, as the runner has every right to the bag that the fielder does. Just like if he was standing on the bag watching a fly ball and the runner runs him over, again legal. P You can't apply a tag unless you've first caught the ball, Middlebrooks is in the act of trying to catch the throw from Saltlamacchia, when he is slid into (off to the runners left of the bag). Middlebrooks is knocked to the ground 3-5 feet INSIDE of the baseline between 2nd and 3rd. It's a chickenshit judgement call, which is a terrible way to end a great game, regardless of whom you're rooting for, and a complete disservice to the World Series. Its a shit call, the Umps should have let the men play ball, rather than deciding the game on an obscure judgement call. Is obstruction a rule or not? |
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