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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:26:52 AM EDT

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I'm done trying to open your narrow mind. You keep interjecting politics into a great accomplishment. If you can't see that I'm sorry.

Cool. Thanks for STFU

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:27:21 AM EDT

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Is it me, or is this a proud day for all mankind?

No...It's a proud day for America.

It is a proud day for France, Russia, and Germany!

I don't get it

A bit of sarcasm directed at our allies.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:28:00 AM EDT

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Is it me, or is this a proud day for all mankind?

No...It's a proud day for America.

It is a proud day for France, Russia, and Germany!

I don't get it

A bit of sarcasm directed at our allies.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:31:28 AM EDT

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I'm done trying to open your narrow mind. You keep interjecting politics into a great accomplishment. If you can't see that I'm sorry.

Cool. Thanks for STFU

Well damn, everything doesn't have to be so political. Sometimes things just have to be taken at face value. Common man just went into space, it's as simple as that. It's a great accomplishment. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:33:25 AM EDT

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Well damn, everything doesn't have to be so political. Sometimes things just have to be taken at face value. Common man just went into space, it's as simple as that. It's a great accomplishment. Nothing more, nothing less.

I thought you were done. Everything is political these days. You can't even shit in the woods without someone wanting to pass some law banning it.
That's just the way the world is.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:33:41 AM EDT

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At least not in a positive way. We Americans strive to do things that are challenging. We Americans have the drive and ambition to go beyond and take chances. That is why the rest of the world fears us and harbors so much jealousy. America has eveolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength. This is the root of Frances hatred of us. France genuinely believed they were going to be the Superpower 50 years ago. They resent us for what they cannot become.

Not to go off on a tangetn, but actually, I know numerous Europeans that are not NOT jealous, do NOT resent the U.S. for anything, and do NOT hate the U.S. But the one thing about the U.S. that DOES irritate them are arrogant statements like: "America has evolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength"

Try taking a good look at housing projects in Chicago, or neighborhoods in Miami or L.A.. Parts of the U.S. are no better than third world countries or banana republics, with infant mortality and immunization rates that are worse than developing countries. Take a good at the drug and gang culture destroying U.S. cities and the failing public school systems that are a joke. Take a good look at ALL of the U.S. - not just the successful parts - before you explain the "superior mental wavelength" of the U.S.

Personally, I think this is a great accomplishment for Burt Rutan and his company. America should be proud, because it's the kind of country that allowed genius like his to flourish, and the human species should be proud because he is such a superb example of what humans are capable of.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:37:13 AM EDT

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Pretty darn cool IMO. It is the first indication to me that it is possible for civilians to make it into space.

I watched Black Sky on Discovery last night about the Space Ship One program..I also switched back and forth to "From the Earth to the Moon, Tom Hank's HBO miniseries about the US space program that was on TBS.

The contrast between the two is staggering! Awesome science and really brave people.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:38:00 AM EDT

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At least not in a positive way. We Americans strive to do things that are challenging. We Americans have the drive and ambition to go beyond and take chances. That is why the rest of the world fears us and harbors so much jealousy. America has eveolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength. This is the root of Frances hatred of us. France genuinely believed they were going to be the Superpower 50 years ago. They resent us for what they cannot become.

Not to go off on a tangetn, but actually, I know numerous Europeans that are not NOT jealous, do NOT resent the U.S. for anything, and do NOT hate the U.S. But the one thing about the U.S. that DOES irritate them are arrogant statements like: "America has evolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength"

Try taking a good look at housing projects in Chicago, or neighborhoods in Miami or L.A.. Parts of the U.S. are no better than third world countries or banana republics, with infant mortality and immunization rates that are worse than developing countries. Take a good at the drug and gang culture destroying U.S. cities and the failing public school systems that are a joke. Take a good look at ALL of the U.S. - not just the successful parts - before you explain the "superior mental wavelength" of the U.S.

Personally, I think this is a great accomplishment for Burt Rutan and his company. America should be proud, because it's the kind of country that allowed genius like his to flourish, and the human species should be proud because he is such a superb example of what humans are capable of.

Thanks DK-Prof, thats exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe I just don't know how to express it in words. I'm just a stupid military man.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:38:10 AM EDT

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Not to go off on a tangetn, but actually, I know numerous Europeans that are not NOT jealous, do NOT resent the U.S. for anything, and do NOT hate the U.S. But the one thing about the U.S. that DOES irritate them are arrogant statements like: "America has evolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength"

Personally, I think this is a great accomplishment for Burt Rutan and his company. America should be proud, because it's the kind of country that allowed genius like his to flourish, and the human species should be proud because he is such a superb example of what humans are capable of.

The truth remains the truth. The majority of EU nation states are praying for us to fail. The revel in it. We are evolved beyond the rest of the world plain and simple. Yeah we have our dregs of society as well. But we are the high end of the curve no matter how you weight it.

2nd Red. Needs to be corrected to what Americans can do.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:46:53 AM EDT

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The truth remains the truth. The majority of EU nation states are praying for us to fail. The revel in it. We are evolved beyond the rest of the world plain and simple. Yeah we have our dregs of society as well.

List them - and the reasons they are praying for the U.S. to fail.

Because I know a LOT of EU countries that are supporting the U.S. - and other than the French, I don't know of any that WANT the U.S. to fail.

Just bacause you call your opinion "the truth" doesn't make it so.

But we are the high end of the curve no matter how you weight it.

No you're not,

Infant mortality - you lose
Immunization- you lose
Drug and gang activity - you lose
Incarceration rates - you lose
Homocide rates - you lose
Poverty levels - you lose
Access to healt insurance - you lose

I coudl go on for a while - this is just off the top of my head.

I am NOT disputing that the U.S. can easily be labelled the "greatest" country in the world right now, but it is also not the truth to say that "no matter how you weigh it" the U.S. is on the high end of the curve.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:51:13 AM EDT

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List them - and the reasons they are praying for the U.S. to fail.

Because I know a LOT of EU countries that are supporting the U.S. - and other than the French, I don't know of any that WANT the U.S. to fail.

Just bacause you call your opinion "the truth" doesn't make it so.

But we are the high end of the curve no matter how you weight it.

No you're not,

Infant mortality - you lose
Immunization- you lose
Drug and gang activity - you lose
Incarceration rates - you lose
Homocide rates - you lose
Poverty levels - you lose
Access to healt insurance - you lose

I coudl go on for a while - this is just off the top of my head.

I am NOT disputing that the U.S. can easily be labelled the "greatest" country in the world right now, but it is also not the truth to say that "no matter how you weigh it" the U.S. is on the high end of the curve.

Yawnnn I don't lose shit.
Go move to South Africa then

You can reply if you like but I am done with this thread! Commie bastards...just kidding.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:57:41 AM EDT

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WTF. Why is this thread political???

This is the same as the wright brothers first flight at Kittyhawk. What a great day to be an american.

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:57:56 AM EDT

[#13]

Yawnnn I don't lose shit.
Go move to South Africa then

You can reply if you like but I am done with this thread! Commie bastards...just kidding.

You lost your ass on that one. A good way to stay in good standing on this board is to admit when your wrong an move on.

Thanks DK

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:58:35 AM EDT

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The truth remains the truth. The majority of EU nation states are praying for us to fail. The revel in it. We are evolved beyond the rest of the world plain and simple. Yeah we have our dregs of society as well.

List them - and the reasons they are praying for the U.S. to fail.

Because I know a LOT of EU countries that are supporting the U.S. - and other than the French, I don't know of any that WANT the U.S. to fail.

Just bacause you call your opinion "the truth" doesn't make it so.

But we are the high end of the curve no matter how you weight it.

No you're not,
Yes, we are. The ability to accel also assumes the ability to fail.
Infant mortality - you lose
Immunization- you lose
Drug and gang activity - you lose Compared to Europe!? Ha! Read about the Muslims in France and Austrailia! They almost run the place!Incarceration rates - you lose
Homocide rates - you lose Again, wrong. Our homicide rates are lower over all than say the UK or Austrailia.Poverty levels - you lose
Access to healt insurance - you lose Wrong again, I don't have health insurance because I choose not to. When I can afford it I will get it. It is not anyone's right. Welcome to freedom.
I coudl go on for a while - this is just off the top of my head.

I am NOT disputing that the U.S. can easily be labelled the "greatest" country in the world right now, but it is also not the truth to say that "no matter how you weigh it" the U.S. is on the high end of the curve.

Socialism has distorted your view. We are the way we are because of a different premise. I agree on the school thing. That is why we have the greatest number of home schooled children! Escape the government school system. It is socialist in nature and will never do our country justice! Planerench out (no real flame intended DK)

Posted: 10/4/2004 9:59:47 AM EDT

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WTF. Why is this thread political???

This is the same as the wright brothers first flight at Kittyhawk. What a great day to be an american.

You're a little late, but it became political when I said it was a great day for man kind.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:00:10 AM EDT

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Yawnnn I don't lose shit.
Go move to South Africa then

You can reply if you like but I am done with this thread! Commie bastards...just kidding.

You lost your ass on that one. A good way to stay in good standing on this board is to admit when your wrong an move on.

Thanks DK

Ohh I'm not wrong at all. Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. this was an American achievement. America is the greatest place. Yes we have dirtbags like everyone else.

The ones who lose are the ones whe appease the EU.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:03:23 AM EDT

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The launch of Chinas first Chinkonaght...

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:05:38 AM EDT

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Ohh I'm not wrong at all. Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. this was an American achievement. America is the greatest place. Yes we have dirtbags like everyone else.

The ones who lose are the ones whe appease the EU.

Finally an explanation! Since I've been overseas since 1986, and have'nt drank the tap water, where have you been?

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:07:34 AM EDT

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The launch of Chinas first Chinkonaght...

Racism funny to you Red Beard. I had more repect for you than that.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:07:47 AM EDT

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Ohh I'm not wrong at all. Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. this was an American achievement. America is the greatest place. Yes we have dirtbags like everyone else.

The ones who lose are the ones whe appease the EU.

Finally an explanation! Since I've been overseas since 1986, and have'nt drank the tap water, where have you been?

In my faraday cage with my foil suit on!!!

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:08:37 AM EDT

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The launch of Chinas first Chinkonaght...

Racism funny to you Red Beard. I had more repect for you than that.

That's not racism.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:09:10 AM EDT

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I thought they fixed the snap roll problem and traced it to a malfunctioning stabilitor.

Technically not a snap roll, just a roll tendency. Probably an exagerrated effect of the issues the wing has when transonic, causing a low frequency rocking motion. I also heard that the wing needed just a bit more dihedral.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:09:24 AM EDT

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The launch of Chinas first Chinkonaght...

Racism funny to you Red Beard. I had more repect for you than that.

It's not racism unless you make it that. They actually have a name for their Astronaughts, but I didn't bother to find it. Chinanaught or Chinkonaught works fine for less thin skinned people. All you EU sympathisers may feel it's not PC enough and is racist...but it's not.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:10:40 AM EDT

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Ohh I'm not wrong at all. Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. this was an American achievement. America is the greatest place. Yes we have dirtbags like everyone else.

The ones who lose are the ones whe appease the EU.

Finally an explanation! Since I've been overseas since 1986, and have'nt drank the tap water, where have you been?

In my faraday cage with my foil suit on!!!

Cool, thanks

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:12:27 AM EDT

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Why do asshats always have to monopolize a good thread with petty flame wars? Sheesh.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:12:50 AM EDT

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I will be impressed when it starts vaporizing Chinese satellites.

Just kidding, its a hell of an accomplishment, that's for sure.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:12:55 AM EDT

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The launch of Chinas first Chinkonaght...

Racism funny to you Red Beard. I had more repect for you than that.

It's not racism unless you make it that. They actually have a name for their Astronaughts, but I didn't bother to find it. Chinanaught or Chinkonaught works fine for less thin skinned people. All you EU sympathisers may feel it's not PC enough and is racist...but it's not.

You piece of shit!!!!!!! I'm married to an asian women and you bet your ass it makes a fucking difference.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:18:42 AM EDT

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That is just badass!

www.space.com/images/ig221_above_earth_lg.jpg

Cameras aboard SpaceShipOne catch the spacecraft's flight in space, with the Earth seen below, during the spacecraft's Sept. 29, 2004 flight.

Can you say "product placement," boys and girls?

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:19:17 AM EDT

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mac130, please don't sully this achievement by trying to collectivize it. Make no mistake, this was the achievement of brilliant, passionate individuals operating in a free society made possible by our Founding Fathers and the blood of patriots who have defended America. It is not by chance that this happened here. These men were motivated not by political officers coercing them to perform. They have done it for the love of space travel and the ambition and determination to make it happen. Nothing could be more American nor more anti-collectivist.

Well said, and Amen.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:21:37 AM EDT

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It's not racism unless you make it that. They actually have a name for their Astronaughts, but I didn't bother to find it. Chinanaught or Chinkonaught works fine for less thin skinned people. All you EU sympathisers may feel it's not PC enough and is racist...but it's not.

You piece of shit!!!!!!! I'm married to an asian women and you bet your ass it makes a fucking difference.

Like I said..thin skinned people will get offended. Try to be a little more stoic. Your gonna have an anuerism...

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:25:32 AM EDT

[#31]

VERY Kewl!

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:25:55 AM EDT

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It's not racism unless you make it that. They actually have a name for their Astronaughts, but I didn't bother to find it. Chinanaught or Chinkonaught works fine for less thin skinned people. All you EU sympathisers may feel it's not PC enough and is racist...but it's not.

You piece of shit!!!!!!! I'm married to an asian women and you bet your ass it makes a fucking difference.

Like I said..thin skinned people will get offended. Try to be a little more stoic. Your gonna have an anuerism...

I'll calm down as soon as you admit it was a raciast remark. And the POS comment still stands either way.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:27:16 AM EDT

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I'll calm down as soon as you admit it was a raciast remark. And the POS comment still stands either way.

It's not racist. Your just too PC. And a POS too. if your gonna call me one my mommie said to call you one

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:28:29 AM EDT

[#34]

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I will be impressed when it starts vaporizing Chinese satellites.

+1

I wonder when the 82nd Airborne is going to start doing orbital drops, ala Heinlein's Mobile Infantry.

I want my powerarmor suit, dammit!

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:31:50 AM EDT

[#35]

Man This Thread turned to shit Quick.
Any way I am Happy as Hell for the crew of space ship 1 they did a most excellent Job. I was watching the video on the 30th and my understanding is that space ship 1 has only manual controls it is not fly by wire which even makes it more Impressive.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:32:18 AM EDT

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I'll calm down as soon as you admit it was a raciast remark. And the POS comment still stands either way.

It's not racist. Your just too PC. And a POS too. if your gonna call me one my mommie said to call you one

A 20 year military man PC, now that's funny. Grow up kid.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:37:42 AM EDT

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It's not racist. Your just too PC. And a POS too. if your gonna call me one my mommie said to call you one

A 20 year military man PC, now that's funny. Grow up kid.

Yawn....then what do you call it if not PC? It's not racism plain and simple. Suck it up son...

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:38:30 AM EDT

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Funny how yet another achievement of man can be reduced to borders and money. I for one am just plain happy our race has achieved another milestone. Don't over complicate it.

I fail to see how Communism or African culture contributed to "Man's" Achievement.

At least not in a positive way. We Americans strive to do things that are challenging. We Americans have the drive and ambition to go beyond and take chances. That is why the rest of the world fears us and harbors so much jealousy. America has eveolved so many light years ahead of the rest of the planet that they simply cannot relate to our superior mental wavelength. This is the root of Frances hatred of us. France genuinely believed they were going to be the Superpower 50 years ago. They resent us for what they cannot become.

we do not choose to do this because it is easy, we choose to do it because it is hard.

TXL

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:40:59 AM EDT

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Yawnnn I don't lose shit.
Go move to South Africa then

You can reply if you like but I am done with this thread! Commie bastards...just kidding.

You lost your ass on that one. A good way to stay in good standing on this board is to admit when your wrong an move on.

Thanks DK

Ohh I'm not wrong at all. Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. this was an American achievement. America is the greatest place. Yes we have dirtbags like everyone else.

The ones who lose are the ones whe appease the EU.

"Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. "

yur a nut

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:46:59 AM EDT

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"Some people drink the tap water here in the states and it pollutes their brain. "

yur a nut

Your the nut if you think I was serious...geeezzzz humor is lost on some of you people...

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:48:41 AM EDT

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The truth remains the truth. The majority of EU nation states are praying for us to fail. The revel in it. We are evolved beyond the rest of the world plain and simple. Yeah we have our dregs of society as well.

List them - and the reasons they are praying for the U.S. to fail.

Because I know a LOT of EU countries that are supporting the U.S. - and other than the French, I don't know of any that WANT the U.S. to fail.

Just bacause you call your opinion "the truth" doesn't make it so.

But we are the high end of the curve no matter how you weight it.

No you're not,

Infant mortality - you lose
Immunization- you lose
Drug and gang activity - you lose
Incarceration rates - you lose
Homocide rates - you lose
Poverty levels - you lose
Access to healt insurance - you lose

I coudl go on for a while - this is just off the top of my head.

I am NOT disputing that the U.S. can easily be labelled the "greatest" country in the world right now, but it is also not the truth to say that "no matter how you weigh it" the U.S. is on the high end of the curve.

Sorry DK, but most of those items you list, those are socialist ideas.
Everyone has access to health insurance, if they choose it as an economic good to purchase.
I don't consider it poverty when these dredges on society have cable tv, cel phones, 2 cars, 2 tvs, high speed internet. Those are economic choices that they make. Make that choice, and then demand health insurance, or buy drugs for leisure activity, then you can die, and it won't bother me one bit.

In some socialist countries from europe, these may be problems. NONE of them are addressed in the Constitution of the United States. (Except possibly criminal activity)

TXL

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:49:02 AM EDT

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It's not racist. Your just too PC. And a POS too. if your gonna call me one my mommie said to call you one

A 20 year military man PC, now that's funny. Grow up kid.

Yawn....then what do you call it if not PC? It's not racism plain and simple. Suck it up son...

So let me get this straight for the record. "Chinkonaught" is not a racial slur for an asian astronaut? Yes or No? Feel free to leave your address.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:50:39 AM EDT

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So let me get this straight for the record. "Chinkonaught" is not a racial slur for an asian astronaut? Yes or No? Feel free to leave your address.

Yep I think you got's it straight!

Address of what? Is this a thinly veiled threat or something son?

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:51:15 AM EDT

[#44]

You'll know when space travel has become common when NASA starts sending up mechanics instead of engineers (or Enlisted instead of Officers) to build and man space stations.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:52:22 AM EDT

[#45]

IBTL.

Did someone close fa.com?

TXL

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:58:42 AM EDT

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So let me get this straight for the record. "Chinkonaught" is not a racial slur for an asian astronaut? Yes or No? Feel free to leave your address.

Yep I think you got's it straight!

Address of what? Is this a thinly veiled threat or something son?

Nope, wanna come over and have a beer with ya sometime. I always like to have a few suds with non PC americans.

Posted: 10/4/2004 10:59:45 AM EDT

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Nope, wanna come over and have a beer with ya sometime. I always like to have a few suds with non PC americans.

Kansas to Alaska is a long ass drive for a beer. There are plenty of true Americans between here and there you can visit with...

Posted: 10/4/2004 11:07:45 AM EDT

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Nope, wanna come over and have a beer with ya sometime. I always like to have a few suds with non PC americans.

Kansas to Alaska is a long ass drive for a beer. There are plenty of true Americans between here and there you can visit with...

I actually go to Alaska quite a bit. I'll look you up when I get there.

Posted: 10/4/2004 11:17:05 AM EDT

[#49]

I'd post, but this thread has been hijacked so many times its not really worth it.
Doh. Well, since I'm posting, cool to see one of the American teams win the prize.

Posted: 10/4/2004 11:22:21 AM EDT

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The truth remains the truth. The majority of EU nation states are praying for us to fail. The revel in it. We are evolved beyond the rest of the world plain and simple.

List them - and the reasons they are praying for the U.S. to fail.

Because I know a LOT of EU countries that are supporting the U.S. - and other than the French, I don't know of any that WANT the U.S. to fail.

Actually, while everyone jumped on the other part of my post (the merits of which can be debated endlessly) it was really this part that I wanted an answer to - and which you compeltely ignored.

You claimed that the majority of the EU is praying for the U.S.to fail, and I would like to know who those EU nations are.

Since you made a factual claim - I'd like to know the basis for it.

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