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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:42:52 AM EDT
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I have no doubt he used the question to delay the payment. It was his responsibility to know if it was the right holster before he ever bid on it. You were generous in extending the payment. You didn't have to be generous but it is good business. He took advantage of you again. All of this is irrelevant in the end. Is a jerk worth jerking back if in the end you will have your reputation damaged? Some things are worth more than a sweet taste of payback. Your reputation is one of them.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:51:59 AM EDT
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350 ebay FB, most as a seller with 100% positive.
I no longer use ebay. I don't neckbeard at Walmart. Life is good |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:19:23 AM EDT
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Refund his money, be nice. Tell him have a nice day. You now have his name and address and maybe a phone number. Order him everything that Franklin mint sells including the Civil war chess set and put bill me later on the little cards. Order subscriptions for some gey porn. Drop his name and address on every free trial membership to a health club or free cruise vacations. List things real cheap on craigslist with his phone number. Follow him to the end of the earth with covert fuckings. Avenge Me!
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:24:38 AM EDT
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Nope. Positive feedback only from seller to buyer. Seriously. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I 've never sold on ebay, but doesn't the feedback process work both ways? Don't you have the ability to leave feedback on the disgruntled customer? Nope. Positive feedback only from seller to buyer. Seriously. Ebay will side with the buyer in almost every circumstance. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:26:44 AM EDT
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lol, yeah what you did was pretty stupid IMO. cost you a negative feedback that ebay wont remove, and the extra hassle. should have just shipped it and moved on.
that being said, at this point i would wait as long as you possibly can without further repercussions to your feedback etc, before refunding him. tell him you blew the money at a strip club and will pay him back next payday |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:34:10 AM EDT
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Buyer's screen name?
Also, F5. 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:36:07 AM EDT
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You could send the buyer a Serpa instead.
Then wait for Darwin. 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:41:21 AM EDT
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Refund his money, be nice. Tell him have a nice day. You now have his name and address and maybe a phone number. Order him everything that Franklin mint sells including the Civil war chess set and put bill me later on the little cards. Order subscriptions for some gey porn. Drop his name and address on every free trial membership to a health club or free cruise vacations. List things real cheap on craigslist with his phone number. Follow him to the end of the earth with covert fuckings. Avenge Me! 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:44:51 AM EDT
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Just pay him back and move on with your life. this, buyer is asshole not you |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:49:18 AM EDT
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He will win. You will lose. Hopefully, somebody learns a lesson about "selling" on Ebay. I wouldn't be so sure.I had one case opened on me for $300 + .When it was resolved I kept the money and the buyer kept the item. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:11:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just pay him back and move on with your life. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:21:52 AM EDT
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The guy is an asshole for sure. Your mistake may have been sending him that message. I had a similar experience and stated that the item was out of stock and refunded the money ASAP.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:25:45 AM EDT
[#13]
E-Bay wins again ! ! !
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:28:08 AM EDT
[#14]
I didn't read whatever happened but i think you should eject.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:31:56 AM EDT
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Shit in the holster, then ship it to him. i like it, but don't actually send the holster. send him a literal box of shit. with tracking information for delivery confirmation. i got botach'd once. i opened a dispute, and paypal didn't even look at the details of the dispute. as soon as botach showed that they had shipped it, with shipping information, paypal closed the case in their favor. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:34:27 AM EDT
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TL:DR
Wife's right......you're an A-hole, a big one! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:41:38 AM EDT
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I recently had a guy in the Philippines contact me in the middle of the night US time, asking if I would ship him some items that were clearly listed as shipping to US buyers only. Then he buys them any way before I can ever respond. He never pays, and when I tell him that No I will not ship to the Philippines, I get no response at all. No payment ever received.
Had to go through the hassle of canceling the order and wait a week for eBay to process it, all because this asshole wasted my time, and ever even apologized for it. Fortunately eBay did not ding me any fees. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:47:31 AM EDT
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Looking for other opinions...wife thinks Im being an A-hole about this. Story: I had a bunch of older used holsters to unload for a friend that retired from LE. Listed about 10 of them. Had a buyer win a Glock 21/20 Safariland SSIII. The guy waits 6 days and then asks me if it fits a gen4 Glock 21. This is probably something he should have asked during the 7 days it was listed but hey, I had a couple minutes so I looked it up on the Safariland website and looks like he is GTG. Tell him so and expect payment. i have sent two invoices already. Buyer says he is waiting for payday and will pay on Friday. Sunday comes along and nothing so i relist it. Late Sunday night he actually pays so i pull the relist with every intention to send it out. It has been 12 days now since the auction ended. The next morning, I start getting messages asking when I'm going to ship. It has been about 12 hours since he paid. Im busy, so i don't answer right away. My auctions state I will ship within 2 days and I would have. The messages continue and then the guy accuses me of running a scam. This is after about an hour from him starting. I have over 750 positive 100% feedback. After about 5 messages I have had enough and tell send him the following: Hello sir, There occasionally comes a time when as a small business owner that you have to "fire" customers. This is one of them. You won this auction February 9th. You contact me on the 16th and ask if it will fit a certain generation of gun. I take my time and look it up on the manufacture website and find out it does. Then you ask to pay a few more days later until you get paid which was supposedly this past Friday. You don't pay until Sunday evening when I had already given up on you and relisted the holster. Now less then one day later you are blowing up my messages and accuse ME of playing games? No, I will not be shipping this today. Nor tomorrow. Not ever. Actually I will be refunding your money when I get to it. Please don't bid on any more of my auctions. The guy goes on a tirade and immediately gives me negative feedback and opens up a case against me thru eBay. I have until the 25th to respond and I plan on waiting until the last second before I take any action. he has messaged me about 10 times asking for his money back and being a general dick. I will refund the money, but the constant pestering after less then 12 hours after he waiting 12 freakin days to pay pissed me off. Wife says Im being an A-hole and I should refund asap. TLDR: Guy wins ebay auction and waits 12 days to pay, then is a pestering douche after less then a day wanting it shipped ASAP. I tell him no, he opens complaint and gives negative feedback. Im holding the cash until the last minute. Wife thinks im an Ahole. You were too emotional... A good biz man would have communicated w/ the Buyer and resolved the issue according to ebay rules... Rather than writing a friggin BOOK that the Buyer is going to laugh at any way. Then getting negative FB... With a case opened... Badly handled... |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:08:44 AM EDT
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This. You owe him either the money or the holster. You don't want to be in a position to owe this guy anything. Be the adult in the situation and refund him, then move on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just pay him back and move on with your life. This. You owe him either the money or the holster. You don't want to be in a position to owe this guy anything. Be the adult in the situation and refund him, then move on. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:17:58 AM EDT
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being petty about the refund? You're wife knows you better than we do, sounds like she has you pegged. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just pay him back and move on with your life. This. You owe him either the money or the holster. You don't want to be in a position to owe this guy anything. Be the adult in the situation and refund him, then move on. I see what you did there. 
OP is being a vindictive asshole. I would've done the same!
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:24:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Why do people still use ebay? It is nothing but a total clusterfuck.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:49:45 AM EDT
[#22]
"As the World Turns"---EBay version.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:58:21 AM EDT
[#23]
About 10-15 years ago, I used to do a lot of selling on Ebay. I finally got tired of the bullshit from idiots who can't/wouldn't read my terms that were posted on each and every auction. The stupid questions that could have been answered by either looking at the pic or reading the description were also a PITA.
I finally quit selling on Ebay and have not regretted it. Yes, you can get rid of shit and make some money, but you also work for it. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:59:54 AM EDT
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I sold a $5 item on ebay and in the end it cost me $25 because I refunded the money, as ebay told me to, and the buyer never shipped the item back.
Ebay can go get fucked because it's a piece of shit operation |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:08:01 AM EDT
[#25]
I've delt with shit like that. I issue a refund and use the item is no longer available option then add that buyer to my ever growing list of banned buyers.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:41:47 AM EDT
[#26]
Meh id wait too. The guy sounds like he's earned it.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:45:58 AM EDT
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He will win. You will lose. Hopefully, somebody learns a lesson about "selling" on Ebay. You aint the asshole but you will lose. eBay takes up for the seller 99% |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:47:26 AM EDT
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Keep his money, send the holster adult signature required, and make sure you take pics of your balls on it first to send to him in a few weeks.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:50:12 AM EDT
[#29]
Why sweat it..?
Who needs the extra stress. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:55:28 AM EDT
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Refund his money, be nice. Tell him have a nice day. You now have his name and address and maybe a phone number. Order him everything that Franklin mint sells including the Civil war chess set and put bill me later on the little cards. Order subscriptions for some gey porn. Drop his name and address on every free trial membership to a health club or free cruise vacations. List things real cheap on craigslist with his phone number. Follow him to the end of the earth with covert fuckings. Avenge Me! Insert evil laugh 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:55:54 AM EDT
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He will win. You will lose. Hopefully, somebody learns a lesson about "selling" on Ebay. This. Angus. Pepper. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:59:15 AM EDT
[#32]
I won't buy or sell anymore on EBay. They aren't getting a penny more of my money.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:05:33 AM EDT
[#33]
If it were me (as the seller) I would have found 25 seconds out of my busy schedule to shoot him a quick e-mail/message (after his messages started to come in) stating it will ship within 2 days. Problem solved. How the guy handled the auction/bid/etc. was annoying (to you, I'm sure), but he eventually came through and in good faith paid. But how you reacted/responded wasn't a hill to die on, and the time it took to draft that long-winded message (that I'm sure made you feel good drafting) could have been better spent (after all, you said you were very busy) with a fast "will ship within 2 days" reply.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:07:50 AM EDT
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Send the money back. The buyer has already proven they are scum, and if you ship they can play all sorts of other games. Exactly. Giving him product only opens the door for him to make claims about empty boxes, broken holsters, wrong item, etc. A refund precludes that and you'd be out the holster and the money. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:17:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Refund his money, be nice. Tell him have a nice day. You now have his name and address and maybe a phone number. Order him everything that Franklin mint sells including the Civil war chess set and put bill me later on the little cards. Order subscriptions for some gey porn. Drop his name and address on every free trial membership to a health club or free cruise vacations. List things real cheap on craigslist with his phone number. Follow him to the end of the earth with covert fuckings. Avenge Me! It's nice to know that there are people out there that think like me. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:20:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Who intentionally prolongs contact with someone like that? You are being an asshole, whether he deserves it or not. Just refund the money and get him out of your life
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:24:32 AM EDT
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No, you're not an a-hole. Unfortunately, eBay is not known for siding with sellers in any kind of dispute these days. I sincerely wish you luck. Nick |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:27:22 AM EDT
[#38]
fuck it, you already got negative feedback. Hold his cash until last minute. Fuck that guy.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:17:30 AM EDT
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Refund his money, be nice. Tell him have a nice day. You now have his name and address and maybe a phone number. Order him everything that Franklin mint sells including the Civil war chess set and put bill me later on the little cards. Order subscriptions for some gey porn. Drop his name and address on every free trial membership to a health club or free cruise vacations. List things real cheap on craigslist with his phone number. Follow him to the end of the earth with covert fuckings. Avenge Me! I like the way you think... 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:23:52 AM EDT
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Yeah, I stopped selling on eBay about 4 or 5 years ago. Just got to be to big of a hassle with buyers scamming you and there not being a thing you could do about it as a seller. At my peak I was grossing $100k+ a year in sales on there but even then they would never side with me. Had several buyers even say they got empty boxes or never got an item and ebay would refund them and I was out the item and money. Not only that but you have to use Paypal with ebay as well which is another scam in itself. I agree. What website are you using to sell now? |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:24:58 AM EDT
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Ebay Hates Sellers. Enjoy your bad feedback. Hope sticking to your guns over property that you weren't even invested in was worth it. You should have filed a non-paying bidder report through EBay - but instead you went ahead and fucked yourself. That being said - I completely agree with the OP. But it's just not how EBay works. this exactly |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:27:42 AM EDT
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Here's something most people don't know -
if the buyer doesn't want to pay for shipping insurance, you should pay for it out of your own pocket because if the PO damages the item, ebay will side with the customer and refund his money I don't understand why people sell on ebay, there's no point |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:29:24 AM EDT
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Looking for other opinions...wife thinks Im being an A-hole about this. Story: I had a bunch of older used holsters to unload for a friend that retired from LE. Listed about 10 of them. Had a buyer win a Glock 21/20 Safariland SSIII. The guy waits 6 days and then asks me if it fits a gen4 Glock 21. This is probably something he should have asked during the 7 days it was listed but hey, I had a couple minutes so I looked it up on the Safariland website and looks like he is GTG. Tell him so and expect payment. i have sent two invoices already. Buyer says he is waiting for payday and will pay on Friday. Sunday comes along and nothing so i relist it. Late Sunday night he actually pays so i pull the relist with every intention to send it out. It has been 12 days now since the auction ended. The next morning, I start getting messages asking when I'm going to ship. It has been about 12 hours since he paid. Im busy, so i don't answer right away. My auctions state I will ship within 2 days and I would have. The messages continue and then the guy accuses me of running a scam. This is after about an hour from him starting. I have over 750 positive 100% feedback. After about 5 messages I have had enough and tell send him the following: Hello sir, There occasionally comes a time when as a small business owner that you have to "fire" customers. This is one of them. You won this auction February 9th. You contact me on the 16th and ask if it will fit a certain generation of gun. I take my time and look it up on the manufacture website and find out it does. Then you ask to pay a few more days later until you get paid which was supposedly this past Friday. You don't pay until Sunday evening when I had already given up on you and relisted the holster. Now less then one day later you are blowing up my messages and accuse ME of playing games? No, I will not be shipping this today. Nor tomorrow. Not ever. Actually I will be refunding your money when I get to it. Please don't bid on any more of my auctions. The guy goes on a tirade and immediately gives me negative feedback and opens up a case against me thru eBay. I have until the 25th to respond and I plan on waiting until the last second before I take any action. he has messaged me about 10 times asking for his money back and being a general dick. I will refund the money, but the constant pestering after less then 12 hours after he waiting 12 freakin days to pay pissed me off. Wife says Im being an A-hole and I should refund asap. TLDR: Guy wins ebay auction and waits 12 days to pay, then is a pestering douche after less then a day wanting it shipped ASAP. I tell him no, he opens complaint and gives negative feedback. Im holding the cash until the last minute. Wife thinks im an Ahole. If there is no sale and he sent you money, you should get his money back to him with NO delay. It is HIS money. He may be a dick, but withholding the refund for any length of time is very unethical and worse than his antics. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:31:14 AM EDT
[#44]
Fuck that guy. Wait until the deadline, refund in full.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:40:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Money refunded within the time that Ebay gave me...just playing by their rules
$3 loss in fees was worth it. Fuck that guy. That's the problem with the world, people think it revolves totally around themselves and don't stop and think for a second that may be i was busy in that one hour it took him to go full retard. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:45:05 AM EDT
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You're not an asshole, but you'll lose against eBay.
Plenty of moron buyers that behave just like that in the EE as well. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:45:15 AM EDT
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You need to set up your non paying bidder warning so they automatically go out after 4? Days I think, payment not received in three days the deal is off and you are free to relist. The buyer is a major douche but you are gonna get your peepee smacked if you do something like relisting without the original deal being dead in the ee.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:47:08 AM EDT
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Fuck that guy and Fuck ebay... That place has went to shit over the last few years...
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:01:20 PM EDT
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You are in the right, but you handled it wrong. Should have opened a non-paying bidder case and let eBay handle it for you. Less drama, your feedback is protected. Correct answer. After sending invoices and no contact within 72 hours. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:07:27 PM EDT
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Shit in the holster, then ship it to him. I vote this. |
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