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Wow. 90% would take them? Damn, you guys aren't trustworthy at all. No shit. Something left hidden on non-private property is pretty much abandoned... we're not talking about walking down the street and finding a wallet. We're talking about firearms hidden on public land, nobody lost them by accident. They're not "abandoned". The OP makes it clear that they appear to have been stashed or cached. They aren't "YOURS". Well, if nothing else, this thread lowers my already low opinion of humans with regards to ethics, morality and decency. Sometimes I am left to wonder if I am a different species. I sure don't have much in common with monkeys. I'm guessing you have no legal right to cache weapons on public land... so if you can't legally cache them, and you left them, that leaves abandonment as to legal status. That there is called rationalization. A process humans go through to convince themselves that doing something wrong is somehow acceptable. |
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They're not "abandoned". The OP makes it clear that they appear to have been stashed or cached. They aren't "YOURS". Well, if nothing else, this thread lowers my already low opinion of humans with regards to ethics, morality and decency. Sometimes I am left to wonder if I am a different species. I sure don't have much in common with monkeys. Seriously? I would like to sell you a bridge. I wouldn't buy a bridge from you anymore than I would remain silent while you took someone else's shit. |
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Since the odds of this happening are about the same as strolling through the forest and coming across a naked Brooklyn Decker in a canopy bed with a sign saying " climb in, I'm cold"...I'm gonna go with I'll be using my crate of SIG 550's to fight my way back to Brooklyn and save her from the Cuban commandos.
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On a serious note, I would mind my own business. Stealing is stealing.
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That all that needs to be said.. I have lot of rifles and every one was bought legally.. I would notify the forest service and or the local Sheriffs department and take they to the crate of weapons.. It would be just my luck they would be part of some ATF sting for the drug cartels and the rifles would have some kind of radio transmitter hidden in them some where..Why risk losing what I already have for greed? |
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The one thing I wouldn't do is notify the authoritays! I'd almost certainly leave them, or cover them a little better, then walk away. The only reason I would take them is if for some reason I was convinced they were left for nefarious purposes. ie terrorists, someone looking to create mayhem in my AO, that sort of thing. But I would have to be convinced of that likelihood. I wouldn't bother with the authoritays though. Probably just keep 'em for themselves anyhow and judging by the way one them blathers on here it might merely be turning them over to the Enemy. One thing to take note of, however, would be a concealed game camera or something along those lines. Sure something to think about. But it's the LEO's that foster the "Us Vs. Them" mentality, huh? This thread is no surprise. Most THIEVES don't care much for the LE folks. That crate belongs to someone. And you know for certain that the someone it belongs to is NOT you. Keep your thieving hands off of it. We get to learn a lot about the character of our fellow ARFCOM'ers from threads like these. |
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Wow. 90% would take them? Damn, you guys aren't trustworthy at all. No shit. Something left hidden on non-private property is pretty much abandoned... we're not talking about walking down the street and finding a wallet. We're talking about firearms hidden on public land, nobody lost them by accident. They're not "abandoned". The OP makes it clear that they appear to have been stashed or cached. They aren't "YOURS". Well, if nothing else, this thread lowers my already low opinion of humans with regards to ethics, morality and decency. Sometimes I am left to wonder if I am a different species. I sure don't have much in common with monkeys. I'm guessing you have no legal right to cache weapons on public land... so if you can't legally cache them, and you left them, that leaves abandonment as to legal status. That there is called rationalization. A process humans go through to convince themselves that doing something wrong is somehow acceptable. I somehow don't see it as wrong. Guess what, I would not hide my watch collection on public land and expect it to never be found, much less not to be taken if it were. What if it was a case of Civil War muskets and indications are they have been there for 150 years... leave em because the owner might come back? So how long do you wait? Same amount of time you wait to loot stores when SHTF Gotcha before the edit |
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There was once a man who found a treasure buried in a field. He immediately called the authorities to take possession of the treasure and lived happily ever after.
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They're not "abandoned". The OP makes it clear that they appear to have been stashed or cached. They aren't "YOURS". Well, if nothing else, this thread lowers my already low opinion of humans with regards to ethics, morality and decency. Sometimes I am left to wonder if I am a different species. I sure don't have much in common with monkeys. Seriously? I would like to sell you a bridge. I wouldn't buy a bridge from you anymore than I would remain silent while you took someone else's shit. I don't know what your talking about. I find money all the time in parking lots. Sometimes its pennies. Sometimes it is more. I once found an envelope full of cash, over 600 dollars. In a bathroom in a truck-stop. It had obviously been there for a long time. It was stained with piss and had boot prints on it. I absently kicked at it while I pissed at the urinal. It flopped/unfolded open, I saw the cash, and took it. So, dropped, lost, or left on purpose, I find it, it is mine. I once bought a rape-kit out of a police magazine. It showed up with vials, swabs, and other stupid shit. No tape, no gloves, no rope, but I didn't whine about it. I got over it. Don't leave stuff in bathrooms, or the woods if you want to keep it. That goes for your woman too. |
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Wow. 90% would take them? Damn, you guys aren't trustworthy at all. No shit. Something left hidden on non-private property is pretty much abandoned... we're not talking about walking down the street and finding a wallet. We're talking about firearms hidden on public land, nobody lost them by accident. They're not "abandoned". The OP makes it clear that they appear to have been stashed or cached. They aren't "YOURS". Well, if nothing else, this thread lowers my already low opinion of humans with regards to ethics, morality and decency. Sometimes I am left to wonder if I am a different species. I sure don't have much in common with monkeys. I'm guessing you have no legal right to cache weapons on public land... so if you can't legally cache them, and you left them, that leaves abandonment as to legal status. That there is called rationalization. A process humans go through to convince themselves that doing something wrong is somehow acceptable. I somehow don't see it as wrong. Guess what, I would not hide my watch collection on public land and expect it to never be found, much less not to be taken if it were. What if it was a case of Civil War muskets and indications are they have been there for 150 years... leave em because the owner might come back? So how long do you wait? Same amount of time you wait to loot stores when SHTF Gotcha before the edit Interesting question you pose... if it is I Am Legend time and the owner will never return, you do what you have to. If it is recent, and people are still around, and it is clearly private property... well I think that is different than stumbling across long abandoned property on public land. ETA, yup I edited just because it was easier to admit I guess I'm a dog. |
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What guns? All I found was an empty hole in the ground. You're lucky...I didn't even find a hole in the ground. I was never in those woods in the first place. |
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hmmmmm, guess I'm a dog No biggie, I would have taken a couple home myself. |
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You're having sex with a woman you picked up off the street. During intercourse, you discover that she is actually a transexual. Do you: A. Pull out B. Finish Time is a factor. i don't know what this has to do with the OP but might as well finish, depends on looks though |
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. |
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. You know we're talking about free SIG 550s here don't 'ya... |
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All i see is an empty hole in the ground where some guns could have been
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. There is a difference, but that is fine you don't see it. |
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You're having sex with a woman you picked up off the street. During intercourse, you discover that she is actually a transexual. Do you: A. Pull out B. Finish Time is a factor. i don't know what this has to do with the OP but might as well finish, depends on looks though Well it looked go enough for you to start!! |
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Well Hiram, the poll results suggests free machineguns. Nope, legal semi's... nothing wrong with possessing them without fancy paperwork. Done intentionally to take that out of the equation. |
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. You know we're talking about free SIG 550s here don't 'ya... I'm not saying I wouldn't fondle them a bit first, but ultimately, I'd turn them in. |
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So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. I don't know what "adult world" you live in. Mine is full of bad guys, whores, and idiots who leave guns in the woods and wallets on sidewalks. I've seen the "hungry" stab a guy for the change in his wallet. (a beach in L.A.) I've seen a drug addict step off of an overpass and fall twenty feet, to be hit by a truck for ten dollars. (he died, California again) I've seen hundreds of people call for the murder of a doctor because she worked at a family planning clinic. (local church) I'd take the guns. I'd give 'em to my family members. |
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. There is a difference, but that is fine you don't see it. What's sad is, you dont... |
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So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. I don't know what "adult world" you live in. Mine is full of bad guys, whores, and idiots who leave guns in the woods and wallets on sidewalks. I've seen the "hungry" stab a guy for the change in his wallet. (a beach in L.A.) I've seen a drug addict step off of an overpass and fall twenty feet, to be hit by a truck for ten dollars. (he died, California again) I've seen hundreds of people call for the murder of a doctor because she worked at a family planning clinic. (local church) I'd take the guns. I'd give 'em to my family members. Yeah, I already figured that one out... |
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Who's forest are we talking about here? Seems to me the honest thing to do would be to notify the owner. Did you bother to read the OP? Public land. So is that wallet laying on a public sidewalk that you mentioned a few posts up. Thievery, is thievery. No matter how you try to justify it. Those guns belong to someone. They weren't just "abandoned" in the woods. They are serial numbered items. Left in the woods, most likely stolen. If not, it's not hard to trace down the owner. They should be returned to their legal owners. In any case, they aren't yours. Finders keepers doesn't always work in the real adult world. There is a difference, but that is fine you don't see it. What's sad is, you dont... survey says... |
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I'd get rid of the tracker hidden amongst them so the guy with the cattle gun wouldn't find me in the hotel room...
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New scenario: Same as OP but this time there's a log-book so that you can hand-receipt it to yourself. What do you do?
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New scenario: Same as OP but this time there's a log-book so that you can hand-receipt it to yourself. What do you do? I leave a notation that I took the rifles and my name is Ed Avila Sr. and leave the photo of me gutting a wild animal. |
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Wow, I guess many here would consider a free pressure washer from Walmart just another windfall.
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There is a difference, but that is fine you don't see it. What's sad is, you dont... Let's say, for the sake of argument, I take the guns home and tell no one about it. What punishment is going to be visited upon me? That may depend on who left them there, and why. Maybe some big mexican with a supressed 12 guage comes to visit you. Maybe you get caught holding a stolen rifle, that was used in a drive by shooting somewhere. That "Free" rifle might turn out to be pretty expensive. But then, maybe nothing happens. You get a free Sig 550. And MAYBE Obama knows what's best for all of us. The odds of either happening are about the same.. |
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Quoted: Good plan amigo! I really like the racing spoon part! Very sneaky!I hide in plain sight with my tactical crisp packet ghillie suit, and wait for them to turn up. If they are godless commie bastards, bayonet charge them with my racing spoon. If they are pikeys, I offer to trade one and some ammo for a used caravan. |
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I'm not sure what I would do. Have to give that some thought. If they are checked to be seen if they are reported as stolen, then what? Run an add in craigslist, "crate of guns found, please call xxx.xxx.xxxx if they are yours"???
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