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This violates The Privacy Act OF 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552a -- As Amended. Hire an attorney to write a letter to the principal, CC'd to the school district administrator and every member of the school board. The letters should be sent via registered mail with a return receipt so they can not deny service. The attorney needs to be a good one, not a shyster. The letter should threaten a Federal civil rights lawsuit based on Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights; Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242 - Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law; and Title 42, U.S.C., Section 14141 - Pattern and Practice. The letter should also tell them that if they do not cease and desist in their discriminatory practice your attorney will also present the facts to the US Attorney for the area for potential criminal action. PAGE THREE IS MINE! |
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Bingo. These people are idiots. This a well worth a fight on your part. CMOS |
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How is watching out for your family's safety and privacy a tinfoil had conspiracy? Anywho, I would offer up a partial address or something. The school should already have your address on file anyways, but there is no need to distribute it publicly. What happens if you have an unlisted address like a cop or a corrections officer? |
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well said |
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I'd have to say no to printing my address but I would try everything I could to make sure your kid doesn't miss out on things. It sucks to be 6 and not get to do what everyone else is doing. I think your school system is FUBAR.
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Yup, thats what I would ask for as well, along with the home addresses of all school board members. Tell them you want to stop by and talk about the directory and the problems it could raise. If they don't give you their addresses... fuck them. Laywer up and ride that pony. The stuff at the top of this page looks pretty sound. |
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The directory is probably being published by the parent-teacher organization without access to the official school data base, thus the need to ask permission and have you supply the data.
No FERPA issue. Way to isolate your kid though. That should help then grow up with normal interactions. No listing in the school directory and MY child will not be visiting for any reason. |
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+1 |
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I dunno about the home address, but from the perspective of a parent who had a wild one in high school, let me say this: having the ability to find names and phone numbers of the parents of your child's friends can be very valuable indeed. Very valuable.
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do you have a child?? in a large public school, i would set up meetings with people who sign checks. my son goes to a very small private school and we have the option. i feel comfortable in doing that. but in a routine publik skoole i dont think i would. |
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for 6 year olds? it's not like the kid is gonna go out and party with his friends, and pass out drunk at a friend's house. to the OP, I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd lie. "123 Main Street". |
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Let them print it.
It's for the children. Oh, and make sure your kid is wearing sunblock! |
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My kid's school does this. It makes it so if I want to call somebody, I can. If I want to invite all the kids in my kid's class to a birthday party, I can. If I want to invite everybody except for the one rotten little fucker, I can.
I'm pretty sure that someone harvested the directory list for some real estate marketing, because we live almost an hour away from the school, and we get the occasional "Home of Distinction" mailer with someone trying to sell us a $2.5 million house, and in the description it will say "Close to _________ Academy" It doesn't bother me, though. I have a gun, so I can shoot people who show up at my house to try to kidnap my kids. |
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Then take advantage of their fear of lawsuits. Have an attorney write them a letter, addressing your privacy & safety concerns. They'll drop the issue like a hot potato. They have no business forcing you to allow them to publish your information. They have a legitimate right to have that information for their own use, but not to publish it to others. |
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I'd fight it, but if you decide to go along with it could you maybe use a PO Box as your home address?
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You never have to eat shit, not when it comes to your families safety! I would simply decline. Your kid is SIX. If there are really honest to goodness bad results of this, reassess next year. |
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There you go. +1 |
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FWIW, I'm the School Resource Officer for the school district in the city where I work. I can't see any legitimate reason for the home address of any student at all to be published as public knowledge (let alone all of them), and I can't see how it would do anything to protect your or anyone elses children. Quite the opposite I think.
I bet that the home addresses of teachers and administrators won't be public knowledge, and that the teachers unions would have an anuerism if they even suggested it. And they would probably cite safety as a reason NOT to do it. -K |
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Good point. Tell them you are in the witness protection program, and dont publish it or they'll be swimming with da fishes. |
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Put another address on the form. Then, after the yearbook comes out, fill out a change of address form simple |
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I really like people that think like you. |
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In our school system they send a note to opt out of this. Call the office. I can't see them "making "you.
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All the posters that think it is no problem should start a new thread and share their phone numbers and addresses with every one here........
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Family Watch Dog Go ahead and enter YOUR city, ZIP, address, etc, and see what pops up. Then, reconsider how safe you would feel publishing your home address where your children live. Keep in mind that these are only the registered offenders. ETA: It must be nice to live with your head in the sand. |
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The OP said it was a policy across the entire district, all years. Since the policy was based on a wider perspective than 6-year-olds, I was just adding some personal experience based on that. In any case, I dunno about the home address, but having the names and phone numbers of your 6-year-old's friends parents can be useful in setting up play dates. |
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I don't care who you are or where you from... But "play dates" are just flat out GHEY!!!!!!!!! There's no kids in the neighborhood? or or or or well okay, maybe just |
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Typical "it's for the children" answer. They want info in case your child needs protection from you. They cannot keep their nose out of your business, they NEED to know. AB |
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Just write the school's address in there. See if anyone notices.
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I'd tell 'em to fuck off, there is NO need for any such document to exist. the only address they should have is the one for the student record, and that's it.
on the other hand, you could give the arfcom answer: 1060 West Addison |
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Fuggin A. I'm a little amazed at the number of people who are saying "just go along with it." |
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I do that at Cabelas. When those bastards ask for my phone number, I give them theirs. Nobody has said anything in retort. |
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I wouldnt want the information published either. How about just making up the info, thats what I generally do when I'm asked for private info that I dont want to give out.
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Exactly +10000000 Take precautions at home, shit man even with my unpublished info, people still can get my info off of peopleseaarch.com. Chill out and sign off so your kid can enjoy school. |
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Point of order: Children are not supposed to "enjoy" school. They are supposed to learn shit |
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my school district is doing away with yellow buses and picking up kids at random locations in unmarked verhicles to prevent the pedophiles from knowing where they live. They send us a encrypted text message with pick up instructions and locations just minutes before the schedule time.
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what would some of the people who don't have a problem with the list have to say about a published list of CCW or firearms owners ?
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What he said. The Principle would be justifying that disclosure to me before I provided anything. I am not naive enough to believe that the "other" kids parents are all upstanding citizens in the community. As a matter of fact I'd be willing to bet there are a fair number of felons, drug addicts and general scum bags in the group and I don't want them knowing where my family lives. This is called "discretion", the school would have my contact information but it is not to be made public. |
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Jake: 1060 West Addison? That's Wrigley Field. |
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This doesn't make sense. I wouldn't want my info in a public directory either.
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If the parent-teacher organization got the address from the school records, then it is a FERPA issue. It is still not legal for the parent-teacher organization to publish the information when a parent has stated that they don't want it published.
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Most everyone at our school know's me and know's where I live. The last time I looked it was even printed in the phone book and was available on White Pages dot com. All of my LEO friends tell me it is always the people who do not want there address, phone numbers etc. printed that are the ones who they have most of the trouble out of. There are plenty of people here that know my address, phone number and other info and I still sleep at night. Heck I even had a couple members stop by work the other day to drop off something I purchased, BigDozer66 |
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Great idea! BigDozer66 |
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set up a PO box and have them send their trash mail and propaganda there
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I had some issues with this when my kids were in school. I just let it go as we were in a very small school and I knew everyone already.
I would object if the student body was over say 1000, or if it was in a big city. Your choice but like someone else said, ask why and your head may explode. |
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I had a look at the FERPA regs and while they say that you can refuse to allow the school to publish the student's address, etc., I bet the school district is thinking, well, that's fine, if you don't want us to publish the address that's your right, but if you don't, then your student is going to be excluded from activities, etc. FERPA regs don't explicitly prohibit us from imposing those conditions on you, and so long as we don't make the disclosures then we are meeting our FERPA obligations. I'm not sure this interpretation would hold up in court but it's probably enough for the dopey school board and their administrators to do what they're doing until they are called on it.
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Why on earth do they need a compilation of everyones address?!? I don't think it's being paranoid at all. I wouldn't do it and wouldn't worry about the "penalty". It's only elementary school. Nothing good will come of the book and next year it will be gone. As soon as the book is distributed someone will put people on a telemarketing list at best, and who knows what at worst. Don't do it, ride it out. |
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