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Posted: 4/20/2016 12:43:57 AM EDT
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Ya think? For many states in the US, it literally doesn't matter who the nominees are for either party in November. Some states will vote Red regardless (Texas) and some will vote Blue regardless (New York). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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it looks like NYS will still be blue in the general Ya think? For many states in the US, it literally doesn't matter who the nominees are for either party in November. Some states will vote Red regardless (Texas) and some will vote Blue regardless (New York). Yep. Though they will often vote for their local guy regardless of party. IIRC VP picks carry their home state 72% of the time no matter which party. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:07:08 AM EDT
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Nobody has said it would be likely trump wins New York in the general. It is likely he will win leaning liberal swing states. Name one. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:11:09 AM EDT
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New York is fucking hopeless.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:11:46 AM EDT
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.......... Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Ya' think? |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:13:06 AM EDT
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.......... Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Ya' think? Apparently not, if you ask a number of people here. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:13:13 AM EDT
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I can't quite write this off as the R's just staying home in this case; with these numbers, it looks like NYS will still be blue in the general unless Trump can handle Hillary the way he handled Jeb in the general. This is WHY SAFE passed with hardly a burp. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Quoted:
Sanders and his supporters are making a serious effort to actually win. I think the hard left likes him MORE than Obama. Of course they do They view Obama as a centerist |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:14:02 AM EDT
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Apparently not, if you ask a number of people here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.......... Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Ya' think? Apparently not, if you ask a number of people here. You need to adjust your sarcasm meter a bit. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:14:17 AM EDT
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This is WHY SAFE passed with hardly a burp. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't quite write this off as the R's just staying home in this case; with these numbers, it looks like NYS will still be blue in the general unless Trump can handle Hillary the way he handled Jeb in the general. This is WHY SAFE passed with hardly a burp. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:15:22 AM EDT
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You need to adjust your sarcasm meter a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.......... Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Ya' think? Apparently not, if you ask a number of people here. You need to adjust your sarcasm meter a bit. Oh, I got the sarcasm. I just find it so incredible. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:17:58 AM EDT
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............. Oh, I got the sarcasm. I just find it so incredible. Oh shit.........I was the one who actually did the misreading. 
If NY goes GOP in November you will hear my head hit the floor it will be so loud. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:22:55 AM EDT
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Trump is going to lose NY, and all the states that vote Dem.
And he is going to put traditional Repub states into play. And he is going to force Repub House and Senate candidates to explain his constantly-changing platform... Trump is going to force conservative losses across the board. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:26:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: I can't quite write this off as the R's just staying home in this case; with these numbers, it looks like NYS will still be blue in the general unless Trump can handle Hillary the way he handled Jeb in the general. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:26:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, at least he has a chance. Cruz is DOA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: NY doesn't matter for the General. It is a solidly blue state. You wouldn't think so if you believed some of the Trump supporters around here. Some are saying Trump will win and that means he'll win the whole election. There is a serious detachment from reality among many of them. Well, at least he has a chance. Cruz is DOA. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:29:23 AM EDT
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You wouldn't think so if you believed some of the Trump supporters around here. Some are saying Trump will win and that means he'll win the whole election. There is a serious detachment from reality among many of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NY doesn't matter for the General. It is a solidly blue state. You wouldn't think so if you believed some of the Trump supporters around here. Some are saying Trump will win and that means he'll win the whole election. There is a serious detachment from reality among many of them. LOL....Stranger things have happened but I'd sure as hell not hold my breath waiting for it to happen. 
It certainly does not help that FHRC is also from NY....Sorta. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:32:57 AM EDT
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass.
Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:35:10 AM EDT
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. Trump has no path to victory in NY that has any basis in reality. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:37:32 AM EDT
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Essentially a dozen metropolitan areas which have nothing in common with the way the rest of the country lives are dictating politics for all of us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck cares what happens in New York? Essentially a dozen metropolitan areas which have nothing in common with the way the rest of the country lives are dictating politics for all of us. Where have we heard that before! |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:38:04 AM EDT
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I was watching the talking heads on Fox News yesterday afternoon while the voting was going on. The had some stats up that said 57% of all registered Democrats are in NYC and only 15% of all registered Republicans are in NYC. Shows you the make up of that state.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:42:07 AM EDT
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Actually, if you correctly count the Trump voters as Ds it's even worse. This kind of absurd hyperbole just makes you look ridiculous. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:44:25 AM EDT
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Trump is going to lose NY, and all the states that vote Dem. And he is going to put traditional Repub states into play. And he is going to force Repub House and Senate candidates to explain his constantly-changing platform... Trump is going to force conservative losses across the board. Last poll I saw showed Trump beating Hillary by three in Mississippi. 
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:44:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary.  I thought retiring to Florida would be boring, but I guess tequila shots are on the breakfast menu.  The only district trump lost was those "Trump loving" Manhattanites |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:58:59 AM EDT
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Last poll I saw showed Trump beating Hillary by three in Mississippi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump is going to lose NY, and all the states that vote Dem. And he is going to put traditional Repub states into play. And he is going to force Repub House and Senate candidates to explain his constantly-changing platform... Trump is going to force conservative losses across the board. Last poll I saw showed Trump beating Hillary by three in Mississippi. Utah is the same. If he beats Hillary, it will be close. Hate to say it... But Trump isn't just forcing conservatives to evaluate themselves. He is forcing liberal Democrats into more power across the board... |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:11:20 AM EDT
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Trump can take NY. And , he can take the NE delegates as well. Cruz supporters.......sucks to be you. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:11:34 AM EDT
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Not mine:
R - 458 D - 39 |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:18:07 AM EDT
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. As a former resident of upstate/western NY, LOL no. Not unless the voters up there do a 180. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:22:53 AM EDT
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No shirt Sherlock.....That's what many have been trying to say, NY is SOLIDLY blue regardless of who is running on the GOP ticket. Who honestly believed Trump could put NY in play? Ain't going to happen kiddies....
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:23:41 AM EDT
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NY doesn't matter for the General. It is a solidly blue state. Trump supporters won't agree. I agree. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:27:20 AM EDT
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Trump has a very solid shot at taking NY and at the least I think he makes it competitive and the Democrats have to spend time and $$ on it. BWHAHHAHWHWHWH....You drank the bong water didn't you? |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:27:38 AM EDT
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. None are blocked from polls though, correct? And every poll shows trump losing to either dem. If poll after poll is wrong, which is possible, it would still take a miracle for trump to win the general. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:28:39 AM EDT
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None are blocked from polls though, correct? And every poll shows trump losing to either dem. If poll after poll is wrong, which is possible, it would still take a miracle for trump to win the general. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. None are blocked from polls though, correct? And every poll shows trump losing to either dem. If poll after poll is wrong, which is possible, it would still take a miracle for trump to win the general. Those polls don't matter. Except when Trump is ahead in the polls, then lets start a whole thread about them. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:30:01 AM EDT
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On the bright side, there are lots and lots of D voters voting for Trump instead of Shrillery. No, no there isn't. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:48:36 AM EDT
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. The delusion is impressive. The idea that ANY republican has any remote chance in NY in the general is rich. The city controls all and the bern supporters willl turn out to vote against trump. Stop peddling the propaganda. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:49:51 AM EDT
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Trump can take NY. And , he can take the NE delegates as well. Cruz supporters.......sucks to be you. I want what you're smoking. But hey, nothing shoots your credibility down quite like this post. Keep it up. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:50:42 AM EDT
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No shirt Sherlock.....That's what many have been trying to say, NY is SOLIDLY blue regardless of who is running on the GOP ticket. Who honestly believed Trump could put NY in play? Ain't going to happen kiddies.... There are people in this thread that are exemplifying the bolded... |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:58:03 AM EDT
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. As were people registered Conservative. I still don't think Trump would beat Hilldog in NY but the general will be a lot closer than the primary. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:08:25 AM EDT
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The delusion is impressive. The idea that ANY republican has any remote chance in NY in the general is rich. The city controls all and the bern supporters willl turn out to vote against trump. Stop peddling the propaganda. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. The delusion is impressive. The idea that ANY republican has any remote chance in NY in the general is rich. The city controls all and the bern supporters willl turn out to vote against trump. Stop peddling the propaganda. They are clearly tired of her. Twice as many people voted for her compared to Trump. Even Bernie got more votes than Trump did. It's flat out insane to think he has any chance off taking New York in the general. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:14:02 AM EDT
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As were people registered Conservative. I still don't think Trump would beat Hilldog in NY but the general will be a lot closer than the primary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. As were people registered Conservative. I still don't think Trump would beat Hilldog in NY but the general will be a lot closer than the primary. You honestly think, that after the dems coalesce support behind either benrie or hilldawg, that the GE race will be closer? Cmon dude, the writing is clearly bolded on the wall. It won't be close. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Cruz supporters: Here's my prediction, Trump will win NY.
Trump supporters: Duh. It's his home state. *Trump wins NY* Trump supporters: DUH. WE TOLD YOU SO. LYIN' TED GETS SMASHED AGAIN.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:16:22 AM EDT
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You honestly think, that after the dems coalesce support behind either benrie or hilldawg, that the GE race will be closer? Cmon dude, the writing is clearly bolded on the wall. It won't be close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. As were people registered Conservative. I still don't think Trump would beat Hilldog in NY but the general will be a lot closer than the primary. You honestly think, that after the dems coalesce support behind either benrie or hilldawg, that the GE race will be closer? Cmon dude, the writing is clearly bolded on the wall. It won't be close. I said closER. I never said close. 
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:19:21 AM EDT
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I said closER. I never said close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dems and Independents that would vote for Trump in the GE were prohibited from supporting him in the primary. As were people registered Conservative. I still don't think Trump would beat Hilldog in NY but the general will be a lot closer than the primary. You honestly think, that after the dems coalesce support behind either benrie or hilldawg, that the GE race will be closer? Cmon dude, the writing is clearly bolded on the wall. It won't be close. I said closER. I never said close. Shit, I'm still skeptical. We did this with Romney and McCain. Much to the trump supporter's disbelief, trump is relatively centrist. We've ran centrists that provide no benefit for these mysterious "crossover voters" and we can't out-dem the democrats. Me? I'll be stocking up on ammo. Prices will skyrocket worse than after newtown. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:19:54 AM EDT
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They are clearly tired of her. Twice as many people voted for her compared to Trump. Even Bernie got more votes than Trump did. It's flat out insane to think he has any chance off taking New York in the general. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump can win in New York in November if upstate, which twice voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton for Senator dumps her worthless ass. Trump is very popular in NY, and hopefully, folks in that state have had finally enough of Hillary. The delusion is impressive. The idea that ANY republican has any remote chance in NY in the general is rich. The city controls all and the bern supporters willl turn out to vote against trump. Stop peddling the propaganda. They are clearly tired of her. Twice as many people voted for her compared to Trump. Even Bernie got more votes than Trump did. It's flat out insane to think he has any chance off taking New York in the general. The excuse for that is that NY has a closed primary. So in the general election all those dems are going to vote for Trump, which is why they stayed home during the primary instead of going out and voting. Oh...wait.. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:27:38 AM EDT
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unless Trump can handle Hillary the way he handled Jeb in the general. Oh holy shit that's funny.... |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:29:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: NY doesn't matter for the General. It is a solidly blue state. You wouldn't think so if you believed some of the Trump supporters around here. Some are saying Trump will win and that means he'll win the whole election. There is a serious detachment from reality among many of them. Well, at least he has a chance. Cruz is DOA. Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. Just Like Cruz has NO chance in the general. NONE. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:30:29 AM EDT
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Nobody has said it would be likely trump wins New York in the general. It is likely he will win leaning liberal swing states. 
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:30:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Name one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nobody has said it would be likely trump wins New York in the general. It is likely he will win leaning liberal swing states. Name one. Trump will win Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio and New Jersey. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:33:20 AM EDT
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Just Like Cruz has NO chance in the general. NONE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NY doesn't matter for the General. It is a solidly blue state. You wouldn't think so if you believed some of the Trump supporters around here. Some are saying Trump will win and that means he'll win the whole election. There is a serious detachment from reality among many of them. Well, at least he has a chance. Cruz is DOA. Any Republican is DOA in NY. Trump has no chance, either. NONE. Please show me actual evidence that supports your statement. I'd be willing to bet that you only have emotional and unscientific arguments. I sure as shit know the data is more favorable for Cruz than trump in the general, but let's see what you've got. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:35:54 AM EDT
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Lol but but but, trump won new yawk!!
See we gawn beat Hillary!! Trumpkins and their magic pumpkin are adorable |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 11:24:38 AM EDT
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Trump would win NY and lots of NE states if he would just dress up as a British soldier from the 1700's. That would appeal to all the ancestors of the Torries who didn't move west.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 5:49:28 PM EDT
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Trump will win Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio and New Jersey. Trump is going to get gutted across the board. And he is going to hand total-control of the Government over to liberal Democrats. He chaged his official position on abortion three times in one day. He is going to force House and Senate conservatives into corners on his whiplash policy changes, and bombastic and unpredictable platform changes. *Every* conservative is going to suffer by having two New York liberals on the ballot... The only person possibly less popular and more-repulsive than Hillary is longtime hardcore Hillary supporter Trump. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:44:57 PM EDT
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He won't make it truly competitive in terms of EC votes, but they will have to spend in order to compete in many other state level and congressional elections. It serves as a good distraction that we will need. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has a very solid shot at taking NY and at the least I think he makes it competitive and the Democrats have to spend time and $$ on it. He won't make it truly competitive in terms of EC votes, but they will have to spend in order to compete in many other state level and congressional elections. It serves as a good distraction that we will need. THIS. Making the Dems spend campaign money in NY and in CA to prevent any chance of Trump winning those states helps Trump in swing states where that money could make a difference for the Dems. Trump having any chance at winning or playing like he does makes the Dems have to spend money they otherwise would not spend in the very expensive NY and CA media markets. Not to mention how Bernie still in the campaign now is making Hillary spend money campaigning in the late primaries that she would otherwise be the only candidate in. That only helps Trump or any other GOP candidate this fall when Hillary won't have those dollars to spend on the general election. And because those primaries are in high cost locations like NY, PA, NJ and CA it takes even more money away from Hillary's campaign, which is always a good thing. |
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