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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:05:38 PM EDT
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What are those cutouts on the frame? 
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Those doors, sir, are the problem. I-I don't know what they are, neither do the British. Perhaps our friends in Murmansk have come up with something new.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:09:56 PM EDT
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I have a good number of various type 1's. Need a compact in ,9mm. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 of that.

All you people complaining about the trigger and accuracy... They far outshoot the users, almost all cases. For a better trigger, it'll likely cost more. The V1 is like $300-400. That's pretty freaking good for something you only notice and complain about in the store.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:13:26 PM EDT
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I have a good number of various type 1's. Need a compact in ,9mm. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 of that.

All you people complaining about the trigger and accuracy... They far outshoot the users, almost all cases. For a better trigger, it'll likely cost more. The V1 is like $300-400. That's pretty freaking good for something you only notice and complain about in the store.
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I did swap my trigger for an APEX kit, but I've never found an issue with the accuracy.  Guys just suck and blame the handgun.   My FIL kept missing with his and was getting frustrated.  I'm like give me that.  Shot it and around and around the swinger plate went.  Handed it back to him and said, "It's you."  
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:14:04 PM EDT
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Looks similar to the shield 45 so I expect very aggressive stippling.

I like!
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:15:49 PM EDT
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I did swap my trigger for an APEX kit, but I've never found an issue with the accuracy.  Guys just suck and blame the handgun.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> My FIL kept missing with his and was getting frustrated.  I'm like give me that.  Shot it and around and around the swinger plate went.  Handed it back to him and said, "It's you."  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I have a good number of various type 1's. Need a compact in ,9mm. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 of that.

All you people complaining about the trigger and accuracy... They far outshoot the users, almost all cases. For a better trigger, it'll likely cost more. The V1 is like $300-400. That's pretty freaking good for something you only notice and complain about in the store.


I did swap my trigger for an APEX kit, but I've never found an issue with the accuracy.  Guys just suck and blame the handgun.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> My FIL kept missing with his and was getting frustrated.  I'm like give me that.  Shot it and around and around the swinger plate went.  Handed it back to him and said, "It's you."  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>


I feel the same.  I have Apex in all mine, accuracy was never as issue
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:18:01 PM EDT
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Spec's say new trigger.

Quick, make Shield and Compact versions.

I neeeeeeed it!
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:19:48 PM EDT
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What are those cutouts on the frame?

The long FDE one has my interest. Never had an M&P before. 
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I like the long slide FDE as well.  Too bad they did not make one in 10mm
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:22:10 PM EDT
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I need a fde pro version.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:22:34 PM EDT
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I have a good number of various type 1's. Need a compact in ,9mm. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 of that.

All you people complaining about the trigger and accuracy... They far outshoot the users, almost all cases. For a better trigger, it'll likely cost more. The V1 is like $300-400. That's pretty freaking good for something you only notice and complain about in the store.
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Accuracy is fine, but the stock trigger on the older ones is inexcusably garbage. For those of us that have to carry them at work, we can't trade out parts in the guns for a trigger that isn't total shit.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:31:08 PM EDT
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Long slide FDE will be very high on my acquisition list. My FS 9mm trigger was unusable.  It was horrific. I mean, it travelled forever, gritty and hard to pull. I pit in an Apex FSS trigger group and it is now fine. I am tier 87 and not particularly great, and even I knew how horrible the trigger was. My 870 was better.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:31:15 PM EDT
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Accuracy is fine, but the stock trigger on the older ones is inexcusably garbage. For those of us that have to carry them at work, we can't trade out parts in the guns for a trigger that isn't total shit.
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This. I could easily improve my quals by swapping to a better trigger. There's no speculation in that, I've shot both Apex and factory plenty of times on many different models. Hell, even the factory Glock 5.5 is easier to shoot with.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:34:00 PM EDT
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Spec's say new trigger.

Quick, make Shield and Compact versions.

I neeeeeeed it!
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I agree.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:35:18 PM EDT
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10mm model please.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:44:54 PM EDT
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What; no  "Grip zone"?
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Isn't that Springfield?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:45:45 PM EDT
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Grip zone 2.0
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:46:36 PM EDT
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Grip zone 2.0
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Negative
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:09:39 PM EDT
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Grip zone 2.0
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You're trying way too much and it's not even the same company even.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:15:47 PM EDT
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You're trying way too much and it's not even the same company even.
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Grip zone 2.0
You're trying way too much and it's not even the same company even.

Lol, pretty sure I know my guns (as in I know that was Springfield).  Sorry, just not super impressed with this update.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:24:52 PM EDT
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interesting

I'm a big fan of the M&P guns

Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:25:32 PM EDT
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Why not want the Loaded Chamber Indicator?

It looks great.  I have one of the first M&Ps and I've been looking for an excuse to upgrade to a PRO CORE model or something similar.  I know the 5" barrel would be better for accuracy but I prefer the look of the 4" model.  I like the FDE version but I really dislike the thumb safety.  They should make a version without that and with the CORE cutouts for red dot sights.

I have no accuracy problem with my M&P and the trigger is good.  It was my first gun so I learned on it, and maybe that's why I don't have an issue.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:32:53 PM EDT
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Why not want the Loaded Chamber Indicator?

It looks great.  I have one of the first M&Ps and I've been looking for an excuse to upgrade to a PRO CORE model or something similar.  I know the 5" barrel would be better for accuracy but I prefer the look of the 4" model.  I like the FDE version but I really dislike the thumb safety.  They should make a version without that and with the CORE cutouts for red dot sights.

I have no accuracy problem with my M&P and the trigger is good.  It was my first gun so I learned on it, and maybe that's why I don't have an issue.
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I don't mind the standard M&P LCI but I defiantly don't want this style as it looks like it has on the FDE models
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Correct barrel twist/lock-up, correct some of the magazine issues, and improve trigger....


Hot damn I might have to buy another M&P....
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:59:39 PM EDT
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It still has that stupid-ass trigger.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:02:11 PM EDT
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Had cash in hand for a mp core a couple weeks ago. Glad I waited.


If they didn't enhance the internals or barrel wtf was the point? By the way, if that roll pin at the top going to prevent it from being milled for a rds?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:16:43 PM EDT
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10mm model please.
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Came to post this...

If ANYONE from S&W might be monitoring this forum, this would be a "SHUDDUPANTAKEMYFUQQINMONEY" moment for your company. I would buy a 10mm M&P if you made one.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:21:36 PM EDT
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I don't mind the standard M&P LCI but I defiantly don't want this style as it looks like it has on the FDE models
http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/m1a1911/Random/IMAG0127.jpg
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Thanks for clarifying.  I agree, the LCI on the top of the slide is stupid.  I like it better on the side.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:29:59 PM EDT
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I like the changes but it concerns me that it flunked the military MHS testing.  It was long rumored that there was a 2.0 design for the MHS testing and IMHO, this confirmed it.

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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:44:39 PM EDT
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This. I could easily improve my quals by swapping to a better trigger. There's no speculation in that, I've shot both Apex and factory plenty of times on many different models. Hell, even the factory Glock 5.5 is easier to shoot with.
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Absolutely. I hate dropping points and ruining otherwise great quals on the 25 yard line I hate that fucking trigger and I dislike that gun because of it. So many other guns that I shoot so much better, and having a better trigger would make me like it a lot more.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:07:20 PM EDT
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I like the changes but it concerns me that it flunked the military MHS testing.  It was long rumored that there was a 2.0 design for the MHS testing and IMHO, this confirmed it.

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We don't know why it failed so I wouldn't worry til it's know.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:24:51 PM EDT
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There's something odd just in front of the slide stop lever...
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:30:40 PM EDT
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More gripshone plesse
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:36:59 PM EDT
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Absolutely. I hate dropping points and ruining otherwise great quals on the 25 yard line I hate that fucking trigger and I dislike that gun because of it. So many other guns that I shoot so much better, and having a better trigger would make me like it a lot more.
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Maybe stop worrying about the gun, and more about the shooting? We qual to 50yds, and all three of my M&Ps do just fine, including the nasty triggered .45. Years ago, I had an epihany, and stopped hunting for reset, and found I instantly began shooting better, and at that same time, I was able to cross platforms without issue. A 1911 shoots just like a Hi-Power that shoots just like a Glock that shoots just like an M&P...
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:45:56 PM EDT
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More gripshone plesse
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:48:24 PM EDT
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C'mon 10mm, you can do it!
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 7:51:43 PM EDT
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Please make the compact 2.0 sized more like a Glock19 and less like a Glock27


Link Posted: 12/17/2016 8:01:07 PM EDT
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No thanks.

Do not want.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 8:01:53 PM EDT
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Beautiful pistols, but WTF is up with the thumb safety?  ... I thought for sure, their next model would have a safety that was more streamlined like the M&P Shield.  Nope, they put it on there as an afterthought it looks like.  ...
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I love the new M&P safety  

Feels just like my IPSC blaster



Link Posted: 12/17/2016 8:02:58 PM EDT
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I love the new M&P safety  

Feels just like my IPSC blaster
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 8:06:57 PM EDT
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Looks like it will finally happen soon.  Academy sports is listing 9mm and 40 models with and with out thumb safety and L versions in FDE.  The long FDE versions have a "tactile LCI" looking at the pictures it is held in place with a roll pin on top of the slide. I hope they offer that model without the LCI. I will pick one or two of these up when they are released.

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SKU# 110577417
http://assets.academy.com/mgen/45/10763945.jpg?is=640,640
http://assets.academy.com/mgen/46/10763946.jpg

SKU# 110577492
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yes pliss
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:09:37 PM EDT
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I really hope the mags are interchangeable
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:30:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:36:37 PM EDT
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What's that square and rectangle above the rail for?

Speed holes?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:47:38 PM EDT
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Updating link to more picks since it looks like the academy pulled the listings
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/17/smith-wesson-mp-m2-0/
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 9:53:06 PM EDT
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Lol, pretty sure I know my guns (as in I know that was Springfield).  Sorry, just not super impressed with this update.
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So why associate a S&W with an SA? Apples and oranges.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:05:44 PM EDT
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What's that square and rectangle above the rail for?

Speed holes?
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maybe  . . . serial number, and QR code ???
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:06:56 PM EDT
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It still has that stupid-ass trigger.
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Apex really improves on that.

I too wish they would just go with a glock style trigger from the factory as well, though.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:11:43 PM EDT
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I love the new M&P safety  

Feels just like my IPSC blaster
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I wish the safety was just a little more finished but is a duty gun.

Either way it's nice that it can just be removed if desired.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:26:36 PM EDT
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Came to post this...

If ANYONE from S&W might be monitoring this forum, this would be a "SHUDDUPANTAKEMYFUQQINMONEY" moment for your company. I would buy a 10mm M&P if you made one.
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10mm model please.


Came to post this...

If ANYONE from S&W might be monitoring this forum, this would be a "SHUDDUPANTAKEMYFUQQINMONEY" moment for your company. I would buy a 10mm M&P if you made one.

I'd be in.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:33:47 PM EDT
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I would definitely buy an FDE example with manual safety.
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Definitely interested to see reviews on this.  Could stand a 5" FDE getting added to the collection.
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