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Posted: 1/20/2015 2:28:11 AM EDT
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Kinetic Munitions instead of conventional. Same boom as nuclear... no effects. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I suspect some of the technology that has gone into the X-37 as a test item will be used for the new bomber. In flight orbital bomber unmanned that can hit a target anywhere in the world in 15 20 minutes? Maybe less? JDAM Nuclear payload Cruise missiles Nice. When a predator can't do it drop a 2000lb bomb on them. Win Win I say. This is essentially what a Minuteman 3 does. Why would you replicate the capability? Bombers exist to burn our enemies into oblivion with nuclear fire, and they exist as a separate service so the Army doesn't use them to bomb mud huts in tactical operations. Somewhere along the way there was a failure of vision. Kinetic Munitions instead of conventional. Same boom as nuclear... no effects. Can I get off the planet before you launch one of those across Russia to reach the low intensity conflict du jour? Kthx. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 2:37:57 AM EDT
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The program is targeting a production line of 80-100 planes. It will replace the fleet of B-52 and B-1 bombers. We have heard this before. 
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Posted: 1/20/2015 3:08:52 AM EDT
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So what do you all think it is going to be and who gets the contract?? 
dunno, but it will cost at least 3x projections 
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Posted: 1/20/2015 3:18:14 AM EDT
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RODS of GOD for the WIN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bombers are so 20th century, what we need are orbital bombardment satellites that can rain down deliver death and destruction in 90 minutes or your money back. http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/weapons/rods.jpg be careful what you wish for. fully realized, rods from the gods makes the 2A irrelevant. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 3:20:23 AM EDT
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Until some genius decides to cut that number to 40 planes and whines it cost 1 billion a copy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The program is targeting a production line of 80-100 planes. It will replace the fleet of B-52 and B-1 bombers. It will be stealthy, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, and optional manning has been discussed. A down-selection will be made this spring or early summer, with initial operating capability planned for the mid-2020s. Nuclear certification will follow two years after that.The target price, set by former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, is $550 million a copy. To keep the price down, the Air Force is looking to use mature technologies that are available now, rather than launching new developments. Until some genius decides to cut that number to 40 planes and whines it cost 1 billion a copy. Shit, 80-100 planes will be just enough to replace the B-1 and have a few extras. That doesn't ever cover the B-52's and B-2's. They've fucked this program and it's not even off the ground. They only built 100 B-1's and now they can barely afford to operate them because there's so few of them that replacement parts are super expensive. They need to be planning on 250+ bombers if they truly want to replace the B-52 and be able to afford spares. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 3:29:58 AM EDT
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A really, REALLY big F-35. Like twice as big as the ones now, so it can carry lots of stuff.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:38:09 AM EDT
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Kinetic Munitions instead of conventional. Same boom as nuclear... no effects. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I suspect some of the technology that has gone into the X-37 as a test item will be used for the new bomber. In flight orbital bomber unmanned that can hit a target anywhere in the world in 15 20 minutes? Maybe less? JDAM Nuclear payload Cruise missiles Nice. When a predator can't do it drop a 2000lb bomb on them. Win Win I say. This is essentially what a Minuteman 3 does. Why would you replicate the capability? Bombers exist to burn our enemies into oblivion with nuclear fire, and they exist as a separate service so the Army doesn't use them to bomb mud huts in tactical operations. Somewhere along the way there was a failure of vision. Kinetic Munitions instead of conventional. Same boom as nuclear... no effects. Name one kinetic weapon that could be deployed today with a yield of even a half ton of TNT. We have nuclear weapons because they release massive amounts of energy. The RNEP is still more viable than a rod from god at this time. A quick strike, precision alternative for an extremely hardened target would be neat, but I don't see that replacing the role of bombers. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:55:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd expect it to operate more like an F-111 Predator drone than a B-2. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile FTFY  m |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 11:58:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: be careful what you wish for. fully realized, rods from the gods makes the 2A irrelevant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bombers are so 20th century, what we need are orbital bombardment satellites that can rain down deliver death and destruction in 90 minutes or your money back. http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/weapons/rods.jpg be careful what you wish for. fully realized, rods from the gods makes the 2A irrelevant. Like tanks, heavy bombers, GPS guided bombs, and nukes did? I can't buy counter measures to either.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 12:10:09 PM EDT
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Like tanks, heavy bombers, GPS guided bombs, and nukes did? I can't buy counter measures to either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bombers are so 20th century, what we need are orbital bombardment satellites that can rain down deliver death and destruction in 90 minutes or your money back. http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/weapons/rods.jpg be careful what you wish for. fully realized, rods from the gods makes the 2A irrelevant. Like tanks, heavy bombers, GPS guided bombs, and nukes did? I can't buy counter measures to either. all of those aside from nuclear are decentralized and require a lot of human overhead. nuclear effects are very difficult to scale. the first creates an opening for seizure of control, and the second results in a material disincentive to employ. the 2A was created to protect the citizenry's ability to conduct a regime change if necessary. the regime that fully implements orbital KE will remain in power as long for as the system is operational. |
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