User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:26:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Definitely looks Russian... all function and no form. Also looks like you'll need wide open areas to enjoy it. It sure as hell won't work on narrow trails. It's also going to ride really harsh in rough terrain. But in conditions like in the video, it would be a ton of fun. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:27:16 PM EDT
[#2]
So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:32:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open? You replace it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:37:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You replace it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open? You replace it. Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket? 
It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:43:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Probably need a trailer to haul fuel just to have a useable range.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:52:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Probably need a trailer to haul fuel just to have a useable range. The website said it uses 2-3liters per hour, and it has a 58 liter tank with up to 4 more 50liter tanks. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 2:58:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Big wheel skidsteer is big wheel skidsteering. That's what I was thinking Hmmmm. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:04:38 PM EDT
[#8]
The videos really only show it turning on snow/ice, I wonder what it would be like on dirt and rock?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:17:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oversized Argo? Yeah. 'Way oversized. That thing makes my tracked 8x8 look tiny. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:24:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket?
It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open? You replace it. Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket?
It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. With a footprint that big, you might have a flat and not know it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:25:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Do want.
 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:26:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket? It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open? You replace it. Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket? It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. Fuck your Bolshevik tire-pressure above 1 atm. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:31:21 PM EDT
[#13]
pretty cool...although I'd want to mount an outboard motor on the back to increase speed on lakes.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:32:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before steinhab goes on a 8 paragraph tangent about east west relations.  |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:37:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Shut up and take my money! |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:38:30 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In before steinhab goes on a 8 paragraph tangent about east west relations. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:40:04 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket?
It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So what happens when the tire sidewall gets ripped open? You replace it. Do those big-assed balloon mothers fit in your shirt pocket?
It would suck to have a flat miles from nowhere. Throw a tube in. Enough to get you home. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:40:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Looks like an awesome amphibious swamp vehicle. You'd need two of those. Where ever that one can go, it can get stuck or break down. You'd need another like it just to get to it. And looks a tad top heavy. Would hate to roll over in the ice.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:42:33 PM EDT
[#19]
$55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs.
A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 3:46:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Looks like I've got another line-item on my "When I win the lottery" list.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 4:22:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
$55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. This place has sand tires, they might work. It looks like their largest sizes are about 34". It also looks like they custom make them from used tires so you might be able to have them add paddles to larger tires. http://powerproracingproducts.com/products/168.html ETA: They have tractor tires for tractor pulls too so there are even larger tires. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 5:41:04 PM EDT
[#22]
meanwhile in canada
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 5:43:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely looks Russian... all function and no form. More Sherp Less derp |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:11:04 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
How much and where can I buy one ? 3.85-4.1 million Rubles http://www.sherp.pro/ru/sherp/ Google Translate to English $52,000 USD |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:16:00 PM EDT
[#25]
Articulation be damned.
Looks awesome for semi flat swamp or likewise terrain. Put it in the knobs and game over |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:22:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Ok, now that needs to be in a chase scene in the next bond movie...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:29:12 PM EDT
[#27]
did they run over some poor asshole in the top vid, about a minute or so from the end?
more like 15 or 20 seconds from the end, when the sherpa is travelling thru tall grass, the camera pans to the back and some poor guy is trying to get to his feet right in the middle of the beaten down grass. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:34:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok..... How many shillings is that? Then we can convert shillings to pounds and pounds to dollars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
How much and where can I buy one ? 3.85-4.1 million Rubles http://www.sherp.pro/ru/sherp/ Google Translate to English Ok..... How many shillings is that? Then we can convert shillings to pounds and pounds to dollars. 5309748.90 Kenyan Shilling |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:43:46 PM EDT
[#29]
The music in that first vid maks me want to buy one and invade something
Makes the Argo look like a child's toy |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:47:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:50:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My very first thought was it wouldn't be that hard to build similar, but where to source a tire. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:52:51 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryNope, that concept is Russian too
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 6:54:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
$55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. Hell most of the body is 2X4s and OSB |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 7:02:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Skid steer with ballon tires...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 7:18:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Looks like something Fleagle would drive.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 7:38:15 PM EDT
[#36]
If anyone is wondering, this is the song from the first video:
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:23:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
$55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:35:10 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm guessing it is built to MiG jet engine longevity specs, i.e. 100 hours. So 300 miles max, it's trash. Pretty high cost per mile.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:43:17 PM EDT
[#39]
So a poor copy of a Rolligon?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:43:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Yes , very cool , But.........
Looks to me like a bunch of those water entries were darn close to taking on a shit ton of water through the front window . Couple of times when breaking the ice they went in kind of sideways and looked close to rolling it in sideways . Wonder how many times they sunk one making those videos? Sink one at the edge of a icy pond/river and what with wearing the winter heavy clothes and the ice edge you are going to be in big trouble. Also looks like they were right on the edge of getting hung up in the marsh grass . Looks real slow in open water , could be ugly against any wind |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:44:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Ost
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:49:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryNot sure how old that Russian vid is, but there was something similar here in the USA in I think the 20's -30's, I think made by Ford |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 8:57:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before steinhab goes on a 8 paragraph tangent about east west relations.  |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:01:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: $55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. Two solid axles capable of handling big tires, open differentials. Proportioned brakes per side would accomplish all the steering. Tires are providing the flotation not the hull, shit I would be willing to get wet if I had to. Prototype would be a tube frame with no tub. I need tires and more alcohol. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:07:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: did they run over some poor asshole in the top vid, about a minute or so from the end? more like 15 or 20 seconds from the end, when the sherpa is travelling thru tall grass, the camera pans to the back and some poor guy is trying to get to his feet right in the middle of the beaten down grass. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:09:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Holy shit, you have way over complicated the drive train IMO. Two solid axles capable of handling big tires, open differentials. Proportioned brakes per side would accomplish all the steering. Tires are providing the flotation not the hull, shit I would be willing to get wet if I had to. Prototype would be a tube frame with no tub. I need tires and more alcohol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
$55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. Two solid axles capable of handling big tires, open differentials. Proportioned brakes per side would accomplish all the steering. Tires are providing the flotation not the hull, shit I would be willing to get wet if I had to. Prototype would be a tube frame with no tub. I need tires and more alcohol. I have no use for brake only steering and I like dry feet Complication is in the eye of the beholder I guess. Yours needs a transmission of some kind and differentials. So drive shafts and u-joints. 6 or half dozen the other to me.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:10:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: $55,000 actually doesn't sound unreasonable to me. The tires themselves are likely $6-10,000 a set going from my experience buying similar sized wheel loader tires. Although they're likely not the same load rating, they look like fairly custom paddle jobs. A large skid-steer brand new isn't far from that price point. I want to build one. Just no idea where to find tires. Yeah, shit. I'm sure some garage mad scientist could easily build one, if you could get the tires. You need a hull, with 2 axle housings, sealed wheel hubs on each side. Inside the hull, front and rear axle is connected by a roller chain to a hydraulic motor, one for each side. Motors are driven by variable piston pumps, one for each side. Pumps are driven by whatever you want for an engine. Speed and direction is mechanical linkage to the variable piston pumps. That's it. You can get more complicated from there if you want additional features but that's the bare minimum. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:12:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hydro gear ZTR transmissions would work fine. Big ones though. All ZTRs I've seen work exactly how I've described. I've never seen a variable gear pump. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:19:32 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All ZTRs I've seen work exactly how I've described. I've never seen a variable gear pump. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hydro gear ZTR transmissions would work fine. Big ones though. All ZTRs I've seen work exactly how I've described. I've never seen a variable gear pump. For this application, any black painted case HG will work. Yes, they use variable angle swash plate piston pumps and fixed displacement motors. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/7/2016 9:21:44 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hydro Gear is the number one manufacturer of unitized hydrostatic transmissions for ZTR lawn care equipment . I have a source for surplus units..fairly inexpensive. For this application, any black painted case HG will work. Yes, they use variable angle swash plate piston pumps and fixed displacement motors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hydro gear ZTR transmissions would work fine. Big ones though. All ZTRs I've seen work exactly how I've described. I've never seen a variable gear pump. For this application, any black painted case HG will work. Yes, they use variable angle swash plate piston pumps and fixed displacement motors. I see what you're saying now. Like this guy although that's too small. When I was contemplating building a mini-dozer I was going to buy two of these or the 1.10 ci White variables. I have a spreadsheet built somewhere on my work computer that I could punch some numbers in and figure just how big of pumps/motors you'd want for this thing given a wheel size/speed/power requirement. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
